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Slightly confused about God's infinite power.

God is all-knowing, right? This means he can see everything that has ever happened and ever will happen. He can see me typing and read your thoughts right now. If this is true, then God would have known that hellish disasters like 9/11 or the Holocaust were going to happen. He also would have watched countless innocent christian women who are raped and killed.

What makes things worse is that God is all-powerful too. He has infinite power.
In Matthew 19:26, Jesus says, "With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."
This ultimately means that God has watched innocent children get molested, women get raped and men get killed. He could stop these crimes with zero effort because of his unlimited power, but doesn't. He rathers to watch them suffer with his omnipresence.

Why does he watch? Why doesn't he help?
 
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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
God is all-knowing, right? This means he can see everything that has ever happened and ever will happen. He can see me typing and read your thoughts right now. If this is true, then God would have known that hellish disasters like 9/11 or the Holocaust were going to happen. He also would have watched countless innocent christian women who are raped and killed.

What makes things worse is that God is all-powerful too. He has infinite power.
In Matthew 19:26, Jesus says, "With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."
This ultimately means that God has watched innocent children get molested, women get raped and men get killed. He could stop these crimes with zero effort because of his unlimited power, but doesn't. He rathers to watch them suffer with his omnipresence.

Why does he watch? Why doesn't he help?
Primarily because deities that are being thought up in somebody's mind as being real for one reason or another, do typically have that disturbing side effect of not providing a helping hand all that much.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
God is all-knowing, right? This means he can see everything that has ever happened and ever will happen. He can see me typing and read your thoughts right now. If this is true, then God would have known that hellish disasters like 9/11 or the Holocaust were going to happen. He also would have watched countless innocent christian women who are raped and killed.

What makes things worse is that God is all-powerful too. He has infinite power.
In Matthew 19:26, Jesus says, "With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."
This ultimately means that God has watched innocent children get molested, women get raped and men get killed. He could stop these crimes with zero effort because of his unlimited power, but doesn't. He rathers to watch them suffer with his omnipresence.

Why does he watch? Why doesn't he help?

Because that would interfere with free will.

My question to you is. Why do you choose to be mad at a god you probably don't even believe exist, rather than be mad at the evil people raping, molesting, and killing other people?
 

PureX

Veteran Member
God is all-knowing, right? This means he can see everything that has ever happened and ever will happen. He can see me typing and read your thoughts right now. If this is true, then God would have known that hellish disasters like 9/11 or the Holocaust were going to happen. He also would have watched countless innocent christian women who are raped and killed.

What makes things worse is that God is all-powerful too. He has infinite power.
In Matthew 19:26, Jesus says, "With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."
This ultimately means that God has watched innocent children get molested, women get raped and men get killed. He could stop these crimes with zero effort because of his unlimited power, but doesn't. He rathers to watch them suffer with his omnipresence.

Why does he watch? Why doesn't he help?
We have no idea what "God" sees or knows. We don't even know that "God" exists, at all. So I can't see much point in this sort of speculation. Where can it possibly lead us, when we already know that no human can possibly answer this kind of question?
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
God is all-knowing, right? This means he can see everything that has ever happened and ever will happen. He can see me typing and read your thoughts right now. If this is true, then God would have known that hellish disasters like 9/11 or the Holocaust were going to happen. He also would have watched countless innocent christian women who are raped and killed.
What makes things worse is that God is all-powerful too. He has infinite power.
In Matthew 19:26, Jesus says, "With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."
This ultimately means that God has watched innocent children get molested, women get raped and men get killed. He could stop these crimes with zero effort because of his unlimited power, but doesn't. He rathers to watch them suffer with his omnipresence.
Why does he watch? Why doesn't he help?

Yes, God even watched as his innocent Son Jesus was horribly killed.
Jesus never taught his Father was responsible. Jesus taught how God does help and will help in a BIG way.
Not God, but rather Satan at Job 2:4-5 challenges all of us (besides Job) to touch our ' flesh ' (loose our health ) and we would Not serve God under adverse conditions. Both Job and Jesus proved Satan a liar and so can we.

God granted, or gifted all of us with free-will choices. That means God does Not interfere with our choices.
As written at Isaiah 65:12 B that people chose what displeased God. (God was displeased with the 9/11 choices).
In other words, free-willed people choose Not to live by the Golden Rule, and choose to Not live by Jesus' New commandment found at John 13:34-35 to have the same self-sacrificing love for others as he has.

God is all knowing in that there will be a happy-and-healthy outcome as Revelation 22:2 reveals to us.
As to who will be part of that happy time is unknown because we choose whether to live by the Golden Rule or not.
Righteous mankind will see the return of the Genesis ' tree of life ' for food and the healing of earth's nations.
That is in fulfillment to God's promise to father Abraham that ALL families and ALL nations of Earth will be blessed. Blessed with the benefit of healing for earth's nations.- Genesis 12:3; Genesis 22:18.

We are nearing the soon coming ' time of separation ' on Earth as found at Matthew 25:31-33,37 when Jesus will separate people on Earth. Those judged as humble 'sheep'-like ones can remain alive on Earth and continue to live on Earth right into the start of calendar Day One of Jesus' coming 1,000-year rule over Earth begins. If Jesus' millennium-long day of governing over Earth would have already happened before we were born then we would never have had the opportunity to be born, or to think who we would want as Sovereign over us.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
We have no idea what "God" sees or knows. We don't even know that "God" exists, at all. So I can't see much point in this sort of speculation. Where can it possibly lead us, when we already know that no human can possibly answer this kind of question?

In Scripture I find that God's Son does answer such questions.
Jesus believed his Father exists.
Since God forces No one to obey His Golden Rule, or to obey Jesus' NEW command to have the same self-sacrificing love for others as he has, then it is self-corrupted mankind who chooses to break God's command.
Jesus gave a Revelation (a revealing) to the apostle John that God will bring to ruin those ruining Earth as found at Revelation 11:18B. God will step in because mankind's history has proven man can't direct his step, so God will have Jesus step in, and Jesus, as Prince of Peace, will usher in global Peace on Earth among persons of goodwill.
The wicked will be 'destroyed forever' as found at Psalms 92:7. Destroyed by the executional words from Jesus' mouth as said at Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-16.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
God is all-knowing, right? This means he can see everything that has ever happened and ever will happen. He can see me typing and read your thoughts right now. If this is true, then God would have known that hellish disasters like 9/11 or the Holocaust were going to happen. He also would have watched countless innocent christian women who are raped and killed.

What makes things worse is that God is all-powerful too. He has infinite power.
In Matthew 19:26, Jesus says, "With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."
This ultimately means that God has watched innocent children get molested, women get raped and men get killed. He could stop these crimes with zero effort because of his unlimited power, but doesn't. He rathers to watch them suffer with his omnipresence.

Why does he watch? Why doesn't he help?

How does and doesnt god do all this to where you are aware he doesnt help people?

It is not about free will. That is a paradox. God helps people. Benefit we are blessed. God doesnt help others. Why. Free will. So god intervenes for the good but sits back for the bad.

But thats just an idea. What is a god? How would you describe it? Why do you think he is just watching? Is it a feeling? A hunch? The bible can say anything from super cali fragil listic expi ala doshes. But what is YOUR experience with god?

Id ask that first before searching for outside answers
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
First, welcome to RF.

I've posted various answers from my perspective in other threads here. I'll add a poem that many like:

One night I dreamed a dream.
As I was walking along the beach with my Lord.
Across the dark sky flashed scenes from my life.
For each scene, I noticed two sets of footprints in the sand,
One belonging to me and one to my Lord.

After the last scene of my life flashed before me,
I looked back at the footprints in the sand.
I noticed that at many times along the path of my life,
especially at the very lowest and saddest times,
there was only one set of footprints.

This really troubled me, so I asked the Lord about it.
"Lord, you said once I decided to follow you,
You'd walk with me all the way.
But I noticed that during the saddest and most troublesome times of my life,
there was only one set of footprints.
I don't understand why, when I needed You the most, You would leave me."

He whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you
Never, ever, during your trials and testings.
When you saw only one set of footprints,
It was then that I carried you."
 
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