• Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Access to private conversations with other members.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

Death in Islam

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
As'Salaamu Alaikum my Muslim friends!

I have a few questions concerning death and Islamic theology.

1) If one dies do their soul remains in their body?

2) Is there body along with the soul resurrected or is it the soul?
 

Muslim-UK

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
As'Salaamu Alaikum my Muslim friends!

I have a few questions concerning death and Islamic theology.

1) If one dies do their soul remains in their body?

2) Is there body along with the soul resurrected or is it the soul?
Yes soul remains in the body, but the attached Jinn and Angels leave to return to their realm.
Body is resurrected with the soul, same as you are here on Earth, but those destined for Paradise will be clothed in a improved body.
 

Muslim-UK

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
The soul is escorted up to the first gate of Heaven where it is either allowed to pass through or is denied access and returns to the grave. Within the grave the first resurrection occurs and Judaism holds this to be the one and only Day of Resurrection, which is incorrect.
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
The soul is escorted up to the first gate of Heaven where it is either allowed to pass through or is denied access and returns to the grave. Within the grave the first resurrection occurs and Judaism holds this to be the one and only Day of Resurrection, which is incorrect.

I also read somewhere that two angels visit you in the grave to test you am I correct on that?
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
As'Salaamu Alaikum my Muslim friends!

I have a few questions concerning death and Islamic theology.

1) If one dies do their soul remains in their body?

2) Is there body along with the soul resurrected or is it the soul?
Walaykom Asalam and welcome.

1- No the soul don't remains in their body after the death,soul taken by angels.

2-Ressurrected supposed to be combination with soul and new body.

btw I heard a scholar said,if someone dies he will wake up directly to hereafter, because we don't feel the time; (like sleep)
 
Last edited:

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
Walaykom Asalam and welcome.

1- No the soul don't remains in their body after the death,soul taken by angels.

2-Ressurrected supposed to be combination with soul and new body.

btw I heard a scholar said,if someone dies he will wake up directly to hereafter, because we don't feel the time; (like sleep)

Interesting I kinda figured that time passes real fast once death occurs
 

Muslim-UK

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Walaykom Asalam and welcome.

1- No the soul don't remains in their body after the death,soul taken by angels.
Correct brother, but once it receives the scroll in the left or right hand, it is taken back to the grave. Believers are shrouded in angelic clothing and sweet smelling aromas. Two Angels then attend to the deceased and question the believer.


"Then Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, says: ‘Record the book of My slave in ‘Illiyoon (the highest heaven) and take him back to the earth, for I created them from it, and I shall return them to it, then I shall take them out from it again.’ Then his soul is returned to his body and two angels come and make him sit up”

Where is the soul, and what happens to it, after a person has died and before he is buried? - islamqa.info
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
I also read somewhere that two angels visit you in the grave to test you am I correct on that?

There's no verse in the quran confirming such a thing, Judgment day will start long after the end of this world,
the soul will leave its physical body once died, so life in the grave doesn't make any sense.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Interesting I kinda figured that time passes real fast once death occurs
Yes,normally we'll wake up just moment after we die,as we were sleeping, there is no time sense.

Surah Ya-Sin [36:52]
They will say, "O woe to us! Who has raised us up from our sleeping place?" [The reply will be], "This is what the Most Merciful had promised, and the messengers told the truth."
 
Last edited:

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Correct brother, but once it receives the scroll in the left or right hand, it is taken back to the grave. Believers are shrouded in angelic clothing and sweet smelling aromas. Two Angels then attend to the deceased and question the believer.


"Then Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, says: ‘Record the book of My slave in ‘Illiyoon (the highest heaven) and take him back to the earth, for I created them from it, and I shall return them to it, then I shall take them out from it again.’ Then his soul is returned to his body and two angels come and make him sit up”

Where is the soul, and what happens to it, after a person has died and before he is buried? - islamqa.info
No ones know for sure,that's could be happened,soul return to body temporary.

It's about punishement in tomb,some scholars deny that,and some accept that,the opinion that I am with is:

there is no judgement in grave after buried, because there is judgement day.

the verse is talking about that disbelievers will suprise by ressurrection from their graves.

Surah Ya-Sin [36:52]
They will say, "O woe to us! Who has raised us up from our sleeping place?" [The reply will be], "This is what the Most Merciful had promised, and the messengers told the truth."
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
There's no verse in the quran confirming such a thing, Judgment day will start long after the end of this world,
the soul will leave its physical body once died, so life in the grave doesn't make any sense.

This is the one thing about Islamic theology that confused me ok so the soul leaves the body and apparently time ceases to exist, so when you die, the soul leaves and does time pass fast where all souls experience judgment or is there a period where the soul awaits judgment?
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
Correct brother, but once it receives the scroll in the left or right hand, it is taken back to the grave. Believers are shrouded in angelic clothing and sweet smelling aromas. Two Angels then attend to the deceased and question the believer.


"Then Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, says: ‘Record the book of My slave in ‘Illiyoon (the highest heaven) and take him back to the earth, for I created them from it, and I shall return them to it, then I shall take them out from it again.’ Then his soul is returned to his body and two angels come and make him sit up”

Where is the soul, and what happens to it, after a person has died and before he is buried? - islamqa.info

What is the scroll what does that mean?
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
This is the one thing about Islamic theology that confused me ok so the soul leaves the body and apparently time ceases to exist, so when you die, the soul leaves and does time pass fast where all souls experience judgment or is there a period where the soul awaits judgment?

No one indeed knows what happen next after the soul leaving the body, but I understand
that all souls and their bodies will be resurrected in the doomsday, one verse says that in
the doomsday that god will even creat our same finger tips, IOW we'll have our same
fingerprints as it was on earth.
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
I wonder on the day of judgement, are we on Earth or are we in the hereafter? I mean it makes sense now because from what I read when you are in Jannah, you are able to smell and taste so apparently we attain our 5 senses.
 

Muslim-UK

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
What is the scroll what does that mean?
Receiving the book of your Earthly account, either in the right hand, (good news) or left hand, (bad news).

Those that receive in the right hand, return to the grave, are clothed appropriately and 2 Angels descend to question the soul, after which the grave is extended and expanded, a door opens to show Hell, and they are told that would have been his/her place, and then a door opens showing Paradise and they are told that will be their abode.

This is the majority position held by Scholars taken from Hadiths.....

Narrated By Masruq: 'Aisha said that a Jewess came to her and mentioned the punishment in the grave, saying to her, "May Allah protect you from the punishment of the grave." 'Aisha then asked Allah's Apostle about the punishment of the grave. He said, "Yes, (there is) punishment in the grave." 'Aisha added, "After that I never saw Allah's Apostle but seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment in the grave in every prayer he prayed." [Sahih Bukhari, Vol 2, Book 23, Hadith #454]

Fadalah bin 'Ubaid (RA) reported that The Messenger of Allah (SAW) said, "The actions of every dead person come to a halt with his death except the one who is on the frontier in Allah's way (i.e., observing Ribat). This latter's deeds will be made to go on increasing for him till the Day of Resurrection, and he will be secure from the trials in the grave." [Sunan Tirmidhi (4/165) No. 1621 and Sunan Abu Dawud (3/9) No. 2500]

Salman (RA) reported: I heard the Messenger of Allah (SAW) as saying, "Observing Ribat in the way of Allah for a day and a night is far better than observing Saum (fasting) for a whole month and standing in Salat (prayer) in all its nights. If a person dies (while performing this duty), he will go on receiving his reward for his meritorious deeds perpetually, and he will be saved from Al-Fattan." [Sahih Muslim (3/1520) No. 1913]

Narrated By Ibn Abbas: The Prophet once passed by two graves, and those two persons (in the graves) were being tortured. He said, "They are being tortured not for a great thing (to avoid). One of them never saved himself from being soiled with his urine, while the other was going about with calumnies (to make enmity between friends). He then took a green leaf of a date-palm tree split it into two pieces and fixed one on each grave. The people said, "O Allah's Apostle! Why have you done so?" He replied, "I hope that their punishment may be lessened till they (the leaf) become dry." [Sahih Bukhari, Vol 2, Book 23, Hadith #443]


It was narrated that Hani' the freed slave of 'Uthman bin 'Affan, said: "When 'Uthman bin 'Affan stood beside a grave, he would weep until his beard became wet. It was said to him: 'You remember Paradise and Hell, and you do not weep, but you weep for this?' He said: 'The Messenger of Allah (SAW) said: "The grave is the first stage of the Hereafter. Whoever is delivered from it, what comes after it is easier. If he is not delivered from it, then what comes after it is harder."' He said that the Messenger of Allah (SAW) said: "I have never seen any horrible scene but the grave is more horrible." [Sunan Tirmidhi (4/553) No. 2308 and Sunan Ibn Majah (5/333) No. 4267]

The 2 Angels ask what he/she used to believe in in this world, who was their Lord, what was their religion and who was their Prophet. The Hypocrites will struggle to answer indicating they do not have full consciousness, hence the verse quoted by 'Godobeyer' makes sense...

Surah Ya-Sin [36:52]
They will say, "O woe to us! Who has raised us up from our sleeping place?" [The reply will be], "This is what the Most Merciful had promised, and the messengers told the truth."

It is at this point the soul fully understands, Yes GOD exists and Judgement Day is here

As for your question on time, no one knows if time is suspended or altered. We do know on Judgement Day people will be asked how long they lived on Earth for and everyone will think long and hard, with some answering, 'a day or two?' Thus we come to know this life is over in what seems like a very very short amount of time...

He (God) will say, “How many years did you stay on the earth?” They will say: “We stayed a day or part of a day....” Qur'an, 23:112-113
 

Muslim-UK

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I wonder on the day of judgement, are we on Earth or are we in the hereafter? I mean it makes sense now because from what I read when you are in Jannah, you are able to smell and taste so apparently we attain our 5 senses.
Judgement Day takes place on Earth, there will be no Seas or Mountains, it will be a mass flat plain.
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
Judgement Day takes place on Earth, there will be no Seas or Mountains, it will be a mass flat plain.

Interesting considering that in 100 trillion years the sun's mass would expand boiling the oceans and there would be nothing left but a dead land. I wonder, what about future generations considering that humanity somehow expands and populates other worlds, would judgment day be extended to them?

But from what I get here is upon death, the soul remains in the body but receives a scroll symbolically representing good/bad news and remains there until judgment day.
 

Muslim-UK

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I wonder, what about future generations considering that humanity somehow expands and populates other worlds, would judgment day be extended to them?
No idea, GOD says mankind will 'try' to reach outer space, but would only be permitted to travel so far.

Qur'an 55:33 states..

"O assembly of Jinns and Men, if you can penetrate regions of the heavens and the earth, then penetrate them! You will not penetrate them save with a Power." [ This verse is followed by an invitation to recognize God's blessings. It forms the subject of the whole of the sura that bears the title 'The Beneficent'.]

The translation given here needs some explanatory comment:
a) The word 'if' expresses in English a condition that is dependant upon a possibility and either an achievable or an unachievable hypothesis. Arabic is a language which is able to introduce a nuance into the condition which is much more explicit. There is one word to express the possibility (ida), another for the achievable hypothesis (in) and a third for the unachievable hypothesis expressed by the word (lau). The verse in question has it as an achievable hypothesis expressed by the word (in). The Quran therefore suggests the material possibility of a concrete realization. This subtle linguistic distinction formally rules out the purely mystic interpretation that some people have (quite wrongly) put on this verse.

b) God is addressing the spirits (jinn) and human beings (ins), and not essentially allegorical figures.

c) 'To penetrate' is the translation of the verb nafada followed by the preposition min. According to Kazimirski's dictionary, the phrase means 'to pass right through and come out on the other side of a body' (e.g. an arrow that comes out on the other side). It therefore suggests a deep penetration and emergence at the other end into the regions in question.

d) The Power (sultan) these men will have to achieve this enterprise would seem to come from the All-Mighty.

There can be no doubt that this verse indicates the possibility men will one day achieve what we today call (perhaps rather improperly) 'the conquest of space'. One must note that the text of the Quran predicts not only penetration through the regions of the Heavens, but also the Earth, i.e. the exploration of its depths.

Astronomy in the Quran

We know a type of Jinn has the ability to travel through space at great speed and likely occupy distant Planets. Even if mankind was to follow suit, we are told...

Every soul will taste death, and you will only be given your [full] compensation on the Day of Resurrection. So he who is drawn away from the Fire and admitted to Paradise has attained [his desire]. And what is the life of this world except the enjoyment of delusion. Qur'an 3:185

So no matter where we are, the rules still apply, we are accountable for how we choose to use our free will.


But from what I get here is upon death, the soul remains in the body but receives a scroll symbolically representing good/bad news and remains there until judgment day.
Yes, that is the majority viewpoint.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
Hi Epic Beard Man, Welcome to the Islamic Forum.

I think the brothers have confused you a little more than you were initially confused.

When a person dies his soul gets taken out of the body, that is what is means by the Islamic term 'every soul will taste death'. Unfortunately it is a painful experience which is why Muslims are very careful with a dead body so as to not cause it any more pain after having gone through death.

Our soul then returns to the grave, not necessarily in our body because we decay after some time. We are then questioned by the angels named Nakir and Munkar, they ask 3 questions, 'Who is your Lord', 'Who is your prophet' and 'What is your faith'.

After this those whose good deeds are more enjoy happiness in the grave while those whose bad deeds are more suffer punishment.

This is separate to he Day of Judgement. This is the day that all people are resurrected, they are given their books containing their deeds in this life, those who receive it on their right are the people of paradise meaning it contains mostly good, those on the left are the people who will enter the hell fire and those who receive it behind their backs are the worst of creatures that committed the most evil who will enter the depths of hell fire.

Hope this helps.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
Judgement Day takes place on Earth, there will be no Seas or Mountains, it will be a mass flat plain.

Brother/Sister there is nothing in Islamic texts that supports this statement of yours. I haven't been around much to know anything about you but most of what you have said in this thread is doubtful if not outright incorrect.
 
Top