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What is your relationship with the spirit world

Do you believe that spirits influence people?

  • yes

    Votes: 14 73.7%
  • no

    Votes: 5 26.3%

  • Total voters
    19

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Spirits respond to being evoked. The Catholic Church and the Orthodox Churches believe that the deceased can be invoked and that they hear our petitions and pray for us and that their prayers are more powerful than the prayers of living people.

In Scripture, God is spirit. Angels are spirits. Fairies are spirits. The souls of the deceased are spirits. The pagan Deities are spirits.

There is an invisible world that influences the material world. What is your relationship with this world? Have you ever seen a Fairy, a ghost, an Angel, or a Deity?

Do you ever talk to your departed loved one's?

Do spirits visit you in your dreams? Do you feel them present inspiring your thoughts and actions? Have you ever gone into a trance that brought you to the spirit world?

I'm reading Allan Kardec's Spirits book and he says that spirits are all about us and influence us often and we aren't aware of it.
 

SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
Staff member
Premium Member
If I am influenced by my spirit exclusively, do I answer yes?
 

DavidFirth

Well-Known Member
Spirits respond to being evoked. The Catholic Church and the Orthodox Churches believe that the deceased can be invoked and that they hear our petitions and pray for us and that their prayers are more powerful than the prayers of living people.

In Scripture, God is spirit. Angels are spirits. Fairies are spirits. The souls of the deceased are spirits. The pagan Deities are spirits.

There is an invisible world that influences the material world. What is your relationship with this world? Have you ever seen a Fairy, a ghost, an Angel, or a Deity?

Do you ever talk to your departed loved one's?

Do spirits visit you in your dreams? Do you feel them present inspiring your thoughts and actions? Have you ever gone into a trance that brought you to the spirit world?

I'm reading Allan Kardec's Spirits book and he says that spirits are all about us and influence us often and we aren't aware of it.

My dear friend, pay no heed to such spirits but set your ears attentive to the Holy Spirit only. Only He loves you, seeks to comfort you and will never lie to you or deceive you.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Spirits respond to being evoked. The Catholic Church and the Orthodox Churches believe that the deceased can be invoked and that they hear our petitions and pray for us and that their prayers are more powerful than the prayers of living people.

In Scripture, God is spirit. Angels are spirits. Fairies are spirits. The souls of the deceased are spirits. The pagan Deities are spirits.

There is an invisible world that influences the material world. What is your relationship with this world? Have you ever seen a Fairy, a ghost, an Angel, or a Deity?

Do you ever talk to your departed loved one's?

Do spirits visit you in your dreams? Do you feel them present inspiring your thoughts and actions? Have you ever gone into a trance that brought you to the spirit world?

I'm reading Allan Kardec's Spirits book and he says that spirits are all about us and influence us often and we aren't aware of it.
What exactly does invocation bring about?
Is it a sense of Serenity, a sense of presence?
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
What exactly does invocation bring about?
Is it a sense of Serenity, a sense of presence?
For me invocation brings a sense of presence, increased energy, a message comes to my heart that I write down and the message is very helpful and something good to read in times of difficulty. Sometimes a prayer is inspired and I write it down and recite it. Sometimes visions come with joy or deep peace. Sometimes malevolent spirits show up to tempt and discourage me.

I invoke the spirits on my Rosary beads and sometimes it gives me energy, peace, and joy when im feeling down in the dumps. Sometimes invoking spirits gives me euphoria and visions that lasts all day. Sometimes things are just arid and I find no consolation in invoking them. It all depends. Sometimes they want me to suffer and grow stronger.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
My dear friend, pay no heed to such spirits but set your ears attentive to the Holy Spirit only. Only He loves you, seeks to comfort you and will never lie to you or deceive you.
Angels are spirits. The poor man when he died was taken to Abraham's bosom. The spirit of Abraham interacted with the rich man in hades. During the transfiguration, Jesus was seen with Moses and Elijah. In the book of revelation, souls in heaven are interceding for earth. We have friends in high places.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Angels are spirits. The poor man when he died was taken to Abraham's bosom. The spirit of Abraham interacted with the rich man in hades. During the transfiguration, Jesus was seen with Moses and Elijah. In the book of revelation, souls in heaven are interceding for earth. We have friends in high places.
From that perspective, there are many spirits, some helpful and some malevolent. Personally I am not interested in the spirit world even though I had a couple of fleeting experiences of the dead but seek to orient my life around God.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Really? Have you had such communications with the spirit world?
No. Only death came around just to say a quick "hello" and then left. I do hold a more insightful view on life though upon leaving the hospital. Guess you can say I'll be awaiting upon Death's next visit with a sense of complacency.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
From that perspective, there are many spirits, some helpful and some malevolent. Personally I am not interested in the spirit world even though I had a couple of fleeting experiences of the dead but seek to orient my life around God.
The kingdom of God is not of this world. It is a spiritual world. God is spirit. Continue seeking that spirit and you have a greater friend than all other spirits combined.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Spirits respond to being evoked. The Catholic Church and the Orthodox Churches believe that the deceased can be invoked and that they hear our petitions and pray for us and that their prayers are more powerful than the prayers of living people.

I wouldn't say more powerful. Some believe they are more influential because spirits of saints, jesus, etc have direct connection with god when christians believe we do not have that direct connection. If we did, we wouldn't exist.

In Scripture, God is spirit. Angels are spirits. Fairies are spirits. The souls of the deceased are spirits. The pagan Deities are spirits.

Fairies in the bible?

Angels have angelic bodies, so I guess you can say they are incarnations of humans. Think of Sodom and Gomorrah where the angels to tell Lot and his wife to escape because the men in the town wanted to sleep with the men in his house.

Pagan deities? Depends on who you speak with.

There is an invisible world that influences the material world. What is your relationship with this world? Have you ever seen a Fairy, a ghost, an Angel, or a Deity?

I haven't seen a fairy and angel. I don't believe deities exist. I have seen a spirit and experienced spirits involvement. I don't put too much emphasis on it and since I had these experience since I was a kid like my mother and grandmother, I never separated them from everyday life. My mother talks to her mother all the time.

Do you ever talk to your departed loved one's?

Yes, all the time. I say my prayers to jesus sometimes because my family is christian and the body of christ is christ, so praying to christ is praying within the body. Therefore, I can communicate with my loved ones through the body. I was thinking of other ways to communicate but giving water offerings and things like that doesn't seem natural. I was thinking of getting another reading to start going into the Lukumi faith. The Orishas can tell me how to do this or that.

Do spirits visit you in your dreams? Do you feel them present inspiring your thoughts and actions? Have you ever gone into a trance that brought you to the spirit world?

Yes. Indirectly in my dreams. I think that is the strongest they communicate is through dreams because in everyday life we have so many blinders and barriers that when we experience something we can't explain, we toss it aside. It doesn't have to be mystical.

Yes. It's not all the time, though. I'm not really in touch with my living family as much as I am family in spirit. So, I kinda feel off without that connection between both.

No. Things like trances, visualizations, meditations, chakras, etc doesn't make sense to me. If one wants to experience the presence of their ancestors, spirits, or say god, it doesn't have to be mystical. It could be simple saying thank you. It could be doing something in the name of your said ancestor(s). It could be understanding yourself more, your values, and how you see life.

I don't separate the spirit world from this world. Heaven and earth, avichi hell and earth, things like that doesn't click with me.

I'm reading Allan Kardec's Spirits book and he says that spirits are all about us and influence us often and we aren't aware of it.

Yes. Children are aware of it more than adults. They probably can't express it especially if, say, their parents are christians and they despise the thought of any other spirit but the holy spirit, christ, and creator.

I honestly feel it's unhealthy to have a view that the only way you can communicate positively and benefit from speaking with spirits is through one religion. It really turns people away from the faith because some people are more concerned about what they share as truth rather than the spiritual well being of the person they are talking to from that other perspective not their own.

Learning to interact with the spirit world kind of teaches you that. It teaches you that everyone has a spirit and if you are helpful to people in spirit, it isn't different than helping people living.

I'm all for helping people from their perspective. Communicating with the spirit world, if one likes, is very beneficial but serious practice if making it your religion.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
No , fairies aren't in the Bible. I can see how I worded it wrong lol :)

Popa, I was thinkin' about some people being a bit negative with non-negative questions of yours (and mine and some others who aren't christian). If you're still bible searching, here are some verses to keep in mind when talking to difficult people.

When jesus speaks about non-christians, he isn't speaking about them because of their lack of belief. He speaks of them because of their behavior and thoughts about god. So, a christian who has ill feelings about god, and say myself who does not, the christian would be considered to have bad relations or have sinned while, even though I'm not under god's law, logically I'd be on the opposite end. Same with other non-christians.

1 Timothy 6:3-5

If anyone advocates a different doctrine and does not agree with sound words, those of our Lord Jesus Christ, and with the doctrine conforming to godliness, he is conceited and understands nothing; but he has a morbid interest in controversial questions and disputes about words, out of which arise envy, strife, abusive language, evil suspicions, and constant friction between men of depraved mind and deprived of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain.

Take this verse. This is interesting. The bible is putting more emphasis on those who have poor behavior than those who do not believe yet have interest rather than sin.

Matthew 19:13-14

Then some children were brought to Him so that He might lay His hands on them and pray; and the disciples rebuked them. But Jesus said, "Let the children alone, and do not hinder them from coming to Me; for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these."

Think of another example. Say that non-believers like Eve are like children and don't know about god rather than willingly reject. They are like children. Jesus prayed over them rather than turned them away. Why would a christian turn away a non-believer if that non-believer is sincere in his interest in learning about god.

I mean, many people believe in god and the spirit world. Some people learn about god through the spirits because to them the spirits are the closest to god. Jesus and the saints are no exclusion as just as my grandmothers and, say, Abraham Lincoln. We are all human. We are all spirit.

I think that anyone can experience spirits but not many people are opened to it or want to be. But try not to let some people stop you from learning about the spirit world. They may bring you to god if that is truly what you want.
 

DavidFirth

Well-Known Member
Angels are spirits. The poor man when he died was taken to Abraham's bosom. The spirit of Abraham interacted with the rich man in hades. During the transfiguration, Jesus was seen with Moses and Elijah. In the book of revelation, souls in heaven are interceding for earth. We have friends in high places.

Indeed we do. Yet Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light, fooling millions. If Muhammed ever saw anything at all surely it was Satan disguised as such an angel. Any who oppose the Gospel are in fact demons posing as angels of light.
 

DavidFirth

Well-Known Member
I recently have lost my father and I tried to get in touch with him spiritualy since there had been some issues that both of us ignored each other. But, no, it did not work. So there is none.

Indeed. I would just give it up. The false ones will drain you of your money, put on a show and try to convince you they succeeded. There is no gain in that.
 
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