The Catch all of Them, They... Which White Nationalist Groups Encourage Murder? Proof Please

During the violence of Charlottesville one deranged young man named James Alex Fields Jr. used his car as a weapon injuring 19 people and killing Heather Heyer after which several media outlets claimed white nationalists were responsible. James Alex Fields Jr. had no direct ties to any white nationalist group and it is said he was radicalized online by far-right propaganda, the problem with this narrative is that most if not all above ground white nationalist organizations do not promote violence in their media on the Internet or elsewhere, why? probably because they know exactly what would happen if they did. So quick were the pitchfork armed village mobsters to fall back on the lazy them, they paradigm, ready to kill the monsters they knew little to nothing of other than the "we good- monsters bad" drivel that spewed from their salacious, slovenly lips. I decided to take it upon myself to view a number of white nationalist sites to see if some of the above ground WN groups did indeed encourage murder, specifically using cars as weapons and came up with nothing. Interestingly enough a number of murder by vehicles has occurred since that time and is attributed to deranged Islamicists, here is one:
Barcelona attack: Police raid home of imam linked to cell behind twin terror attacks
The discussion/debate is this:
1.) Do above ground white nationalist organizations encourage murder as a means to an end- please provide proof
2.) If we can blame the entire WN movement for encouraging murder after the actions of one deranged man "they ran people over with a car!" can we not blame the entirety of Islam for the actions of a few deranged individuals?

Stanyon said:

1.) Do above ground white nationalist organizations encourage murder as a means to an end- please provide proof

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Not just murder, but that specific means of murder. It's apparently a meme on the right now:

From Fox News website features story glorifying running over liberal protesters with cars :

It Aint Necessarily So said:

Not just murder, but that specific means of murder. It's apparently a meme on the right now:

From Fox News website features story glorifying running over liberal protesters with cars :

A webpage that’s still live on Fox News’ website as this is published [now gone] is headlined, “Here’s A Reel Of Cars Plowing Through Protesters Trying To Block The Road.”

The page features a video compilation of cars striking protesters put together by The Daily Caller, a right-wing news site. It starts with a chyron that says, “If you are easily triggered, stop watching now.” The soundtrack is an acoustic, satirical version of Ludacris’ “Move ***** Get Out Da Way.”

A paragraph written under the embedded video written by Mike Raust of the Daily Caller says, “Here’s a compilation of liberal protesters getting pushed out of the way by cars and trucks. Study the technique; it may prove useful in the next four years.”

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Fields’ actions didn’t happen in a vaccum — as Slate detailed on Monday, driving into crowds of liberal protesters has been a right-wing fantasy for quite some time. Meanwhile, as ThinkProgress reported on Monday, Republicans in six states “have pushed for laws this year that would shield drivers who hit protesters. The bills are part of a wave of anti-protest proposals introduced since the rise of the Black Lives Matter and anti-Trump resistance movements.”​

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Think progress? you have to be kidding me:
ThinkProgress FACT FAIL: Leftist propaganda group published blatant lies after Oregon shooting to attack Second Amendment

Stanyon said:

I decided to take it upon myself to view a number of white nationalist sites ...

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... and apparently found them attractive.

Stanyon said:

Think progress? you have to be kidding me:
ThinkProgress FACT FAIL: Leftist propaganda group published blatant lies after Oregon shooting to attack Second Amendment

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You chose to ignore the bulk of the piece which was from Fox news.

And you cited a web site which is clearly bending the truth at a minimum. FACT FAIL

But to answer your OP Free Helicopter Rides | Know Your Meme which is supposedly a joke but I don't believe that for a second. They're serious and are just trying to cover their butts in case the police come calling.

Jayhawker Soule said:

... and apparently found them attractive.

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How about debating issues 1 and 2 I presented in the OP in an intelligent way instead of petty, veiled accusations, or you could just say it out loud- either way if you choose to spam and troll the thread please leave.

sunrise123 said:

You chose to ignore the bulk of the piece which was from Fox news.
And you cited a web site which is clearly bending the truth at a minimum. FACT FAIL

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Please provide proof from actual above ground white nationalist sites explicitly encouraging murder, do I really need to post that video of BLM marching and chanting about wanting dead cops again? Also, if you can use such a hodgepodge to paint the entire white nationalist movement could you not also blame the entirety of Islam for the actions of a few?

Stanyon said:

How about debating issues 1 and 2 I presented in the OP in an intelligent way instead of petty, veiled accusations, ...

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Nothing veiled about it but, that aside, I agree: I should simply relegate apologists such as you to the ignore list ...

... done.

Stanyon said:

How about debating issues 1 and 2 I presented in the OP in an intelligent way instead of petty, veiled accusations, or you could just say it out loud- either way if you choose to spam and troll the thread please leave.



Please provide proof from actual above ground white nationalist sites explicitly encouraging murder, do I really need to post that video of BLM marching and chanting about wanting dead cops again? Also, if you can use such a hodgepodge to paint the entire white nationalist movement could you not also blame the entirety of Islam for the actions of a few?

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http://nypost.com/2017/08/15/man-outing-white-nationalists-on-twitter-is-getting-death-threats/

Charlottesville victim's mom refuses to speak to Trump; receiving death threats

U.S. sees 300 violent attacks inspired by far right every year

And many many more. As I wrote of course they're not stupid enough to publicly issue death threats but they, being cowards, do it anonymously.

And I'm not accusing all conservatives of being terrorists but "white nationalists" is another phrase for bigotry. And I put Islamic terrorists in the same category.

I'm not going to give an inch on those preaching hate directed at me and others no matter what weasel words are used nor what claims are made. Millions died due to the action of bigots and my answer to bigots of today is

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Stanyon said:

During the violence of Charlottesville one deranged young man named James Alex Fields Jr. used his car as a weapon injuring 19 people and killing Heather Heyer after which several media outlets claimed white nationalists were responsible. James Alex Fields Jr. had no direct ties to any white nationalist group and it is said he was radicalized online by far-right propaganda, the problem with this narrative is that most if not all above ground white nationalist organizations do not promote violence in their media on the Internet or elsewhere, why? probably because they know exactly what would happen if they did. So quick were the pitchfork armed village mobsters to fall back on the lazy them, they paradigm, ready to kill the monsters they knew little to nothing of other than the "we good- monsters bad" drivel that spewed from their salacious, slovenly lips. I decided to take it upon myself to view a number of white nationalist sites to see if some of the above ground WN groups did indeed encourage murder, specifically using cars as weapons and came up with nothing. Interestingly enough a number of murder by vehicles has occurred since that time and is attributed to deranged Islamicists, here is one:
Barcelona attack: Police raid home of imam linked to cell behind twin terror attacks
The discussion/debate is this:
1.) Do above ground white nationalist organizations encourage murder as a means to an end- please provide proof
2.) If we can blame the entire WN movement for encouraging murder after the actions of one deranged man "they ran people over with a car!" can we not blame the entirety of Islam for the actions of a few deranged individuals?

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The only problem here is that you have a bull**** image for your profile and cannot provide a proper argument.

****ing idiot.

Like Jay.....ignored.

Stanyon said:

During the violence of Charlottesville one deranged young man named James Alex Fields Jr. used his car as a weapon injuring 19 people and killing Heather Heyer after which several media outlets claimed white nationalists were responsible. James Alex Fields Jr. had no direct ties to any white nationalist group and it is said he was radicalized online by far-right propaganda, the problem with this narrative is that most if not all above ground white nationalist organizations do not promote violence in their media on the Internet or elsewhere, why? probably because they know exactly what would happen if they did. So quick were the pitchfork armed village mobsters to fall back on the lazy them, they paradigm, ready to kill the monsters they knew little to nothing of other than the "we good- monsters bad" drivel that spewed from their salacious, slovenly lips. I decided to take it upon myself to view a number of white nationalist sites to see if some of the above ground WN groups did indeed encourage murder, specifically using cars as weapons and came up with nothing. Interestingly enough a number of murder by vehicles has occurred since that time and is attributed to deranged Islamicists, here is one:
Barcelona attack: Police raid home of imam linked to cell behind twin terror attacks
The discussion/debate is this:
1.) Do above ground white nationalist organizations encourage murder as a means to an end- please provide proof
2.) If we can blame the entire WN movement for encouraging murder after the actions of one deranged man "they ran people over with a car!" can we not blame the entirety of Islam for the actions of a few deranged individuals?

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Your Thread Title 'Which White Nationalist groups encourage murder?' Proof Please!.............. caught my eye!

....and after a long post you end with 'Can we not blame the entirety of Islam for the actions of a few deranged individuals'

Would you like to? Blame all Islam for terrorist actions?

Anyway, a 'Christian' website, many members of which support white-nationalism, 'nuking' (they call it glassing?) Mecca, executing Gays, reducing sexual equality....... oh the whole bigot's breakfast lunch and supper...... has a brilliant way of handling situations where individuals of similar mindset carry out dreadful, horrendous, terrorist, murdering crimes.

They just claim, 'That person is not like us. That person is not a Christian'..... or whatever. And so the membership can rant on and on, hiding behind free-speech and winding up stupid creepy bigots to do very bad things, and then dump them with a few sentences.

Heads up........ we ain't daft.

I'd say you are completely missing my point at best and purposely adding meaning and connections to my words to justify your position at worst old badger, I imagine it is somewhere in the middle. My point is that for months and even years we were not to blame Islam overall for the actions of a few yet seem completely fine blaming white nationalists overall for the actions of one person that was not affiliated with them in any way. The factors in the equation do not matter, what does matter is if the equation is constant- in other words if you take out wn and Islam and plug in any other factors is result the same? If it is different then the equation is flawed. It is a call for fairness and honesty not apologetics.

gnomon said:

The only problem here is that you have a bull**** image for your profile.

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This isn't facebook son

Oh my God it actually works.

There is a means to ignore a horse**** fart upon this forum. Never utilized before until reading this utter **** of a thread.



But I recall I lambasted such a process. Dear God now I have to realize how to undo this ignore.......

Can anyone help in not ignoring a fart on this forum?

I don't know how.........should it matter? Unfortunately yes.

Never mind.....figured it out.....seriously I just did....yay for the drunk guy in the single thread I'm writing I just un****ed....sorry......unignore (new word for the day) a fool........."****ing Pickle Rick!"...

..the poster is a dumbass. Not just me, because I know I'm utter ****, but the OP.

"This isn't facebook son".......who the **** do you think you are......a Clint Eastwood of White majority apologists demanding evidence of a horse**** theory because you lack the ability to do the research yourself?

Stupid image of your handle by the way......oh wait......I already said that. Thus my ignoring you and pickling out in the first place.

Dear god another ****ing coward on this forum. Maybe I should enact that ignore feature......no.

Someone stupid enough to use their handle as "If I'm going to follow anyone's arbitrary cockamamie rules that only exists in ones mind it's going to be the arbitrary cockamamie rules that only exist in mine.".......you know you are talking to a ****ing moron. God that stupid quote reminds me of Kathy Bates screaming about the cockadoodie car!

Dear God ....had to scroll up to see your stupid name........change it too Annie Wilkes.


But thank you for the fun. And no.......I will never take anything you have to argue or say seriously.

Because you are a fool.

Have a good night!

Stanyon said:

1.) Do above ground white nationalist organizations encourage murder as a means to an end- please provide proof

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The Daily Stormer
Andrew Anglin, publisher of The Daily Stormer, is quoted as saying, "The goal is to ethnically cleanse White nations of non-Whites and establish an authoritarian government. Many people also believe that the Jews should be exterminated."

I am using this Wikipedia article as evidence (rather than the source it cites), since Andrew Anglin could dispute the quote in Wikipedia if he disagreed with it.

It appears that The Daily Stormer has advocated a vast number of other appalling ideas, but I think that particular one meets your criteria without requiring additional support.

Stanyon said:

2.) If we can blame the entire WN movement for encouraging murder after the actions of one deranged man "they ran people over with a car!" can we not blame the entirety of Islam for the actions of a few deranged individuals?

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If someone believes that whites are superior to other races (despite the scientific evidence to the contrary), then I can blame them for that alone. I don't need to blame them for someone else's murders.

If someone believes that whites should be given preferential treatment (or a particular race should be given worse treatment), then I can blame them for that alone. I don't need to blame them for someone else's murders.