No Messiah Mention in KJV New Testament

I just read on another forum that some people are saying the word Messiah (Messias) does not appear anywhere in the KJV New Testament. Some people claim it used to.

I am not asking here if the KJV could or has changed.

What I am asking for is the opinion of people who are well-versed in Bible studies. Does it seem reasonable to your memory to believe Jesus was never discussed in the context of the word 'Messiah' in the KJV New Testament? Or that the word 'Messiah' does not appear at all in the KJV New Testament?

A simple google search provided me with the answer.

Mister Silver said:

A simple google search provided me with the answer.

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Which proves you didn't understand the question!

George-ananda said:

Which proves you didn't understand the question!

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I understood the question just fine.

Mister Silver said:

I understood the question just fine.

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No, I wrote the question and you didn't understand it. I can easily have done my own google search on words (and I already had).

Here's your link provided by google.

Word Counts: How Many Times Does a Word Appear in the Bible?

This entire question strikes me as not very meaningful. To me it matters not at all if a word was or was not used in an English translation of scriptures that were written centuries after Jesus' life.

Mister Silver said:

Here's your link provided by google.

Word Counts: How Many Times Does a Word Appear in the Bible?

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That underlines my point as the various versions are all over the map.

Mister Silver said:

Here's your link provided by google.

Word Counts: How Many Times Does a Word Appear in the Bible?

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sunrise123 said:

This entire question strikes me as not very meaningful. To me it matters not at all if a word was or was not used in an English translation of scriptures that were written centuries after Jesus' life.

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Ok, no one is understanding the question. I'll take the blame.

This has to do with the Mandela Effect. People are claiming that reality has changed and the word messiah no longer appears in KIng James bible but it used to.

If you are confused, then you understand the OP.

sunrise123 said:

This entire question strikes me as not very meaningful. To me it matters not at all if a word was or was not used in an English translation of scriptures that were written centuries after Jesus' life.

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Copies that survived the course of time were written well after Jesus' resurrection. The originals were all written or verbalized shortly after.

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Christ is the title of Jesus (not his name) meaning "the anointed one." Through this anointment he was commissioned as the Messiah of the Hebrew prophecies and the savior of humankind. In effect then, being The Anointed One (Christ) = being the Messiah

So some Bibles use "Christ" whereas others choose to use "Messiah." Indicating, to me anyway, that it's no big deal.

In fact, some Bibles go to the trouble of indicating this identity.

Looking at 55 versions of Matthew 1:16 "Messiah" is used in 36% (20 out of 55) of them. So that it doesn't appear in the KJV is not surprising. However, why it isn't specifically in the KJV is beyond me.
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George-ananda said:

Ok, no one is understanding the question. I'll take the blame.

This has to do with the Mandela Effect. People are claiming that reality has changed and the word messiah no longer appears in KIng James bible but it used to.

If you are confused, then you understand the OP.

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It seems very strange to me that the word messiah is nowhere NOW in the KJV New Testament but I am not an old-school bible student. Anyone?

Did God take it out to modernize Christianity?

Skwim said:

Christ is the title of Jesus (not his name) meaning "the anointed one." Through this anointment he was commissioned as the Messiah of the Hebrew prophecies and the savior of humankind. In effect then, being The Anointed One (Christ) = being the Messiah

So some Bibles use "Christ" whereas others choose to use "Messiah."

Matthew 1:16 KJV
16 and Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

Matthew 1:16 NIV
16 and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, and Mary was the mother of Jesus who is called the Messiah.​

In fact, some Bibles go to the trouble of indicating this identity.

Matthew 1:16 AMP (Amplified Bible)
16 Jacob was the father of Joseph the husband of Mary, by whom Jesus was born, who is called the Messiah (Christ).

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Looking at 55 versions of Matthew 1:16 "Messiah" is used in 36% (20 out of 55) of them.

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OK, how is it not now in kjv? How do you remember the kjv in your 1940's Sunday school?

This is getting at the Mandela Effect claim of some very serious people.

George-ananda said:

OK, how is it not now in kjv?

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My guess is that it never was.

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Skwim said:

My guess is that it never was.

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Serious people are thinking God is modernizing Christianity by changing reality. I need to hear from old-school bible experts saying wtf.

George-ananda said:

I just read on another forum that some people are saying the word Messiah (Messias) does not appear anywhere in the KJV New Testament. Some people claim it used to.

I am not asking here if the KJV could or has changed.

What I am asking for is the opinion of people who are well-versed in Bible studies. Does it seem reasonable to your memory to believe Jesus was never discussed in the context of the word 'Messiah' in the KJV New Testament? Or that the word 'Messiah' does not appear at all in the KJV New Testament?

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(God is going by the amount of energy he is putting out in "Pain for Pain" of Revelation 11.....................There is a transition in the Gospel's usage of the Word "Messiah" (Anointed of Heaven and Earth)...................this argument should really begin with Daniel, because it starts using that word and then it stops)

1. Messiah the Prince is introduced in the 69th Week (7 Years from the 70th Week) (Daniel 9:25)
2. Messiah is Cut off in the 62nd Week (7 Weeks from the 69th Week) Daniel 9:26
3. Global Euthanasia takes place for the "Dumb and Blind", no Sign and no Vision, No Messiah

7 Weeks of God's Energy in INRI (I*/Rape/M*) invalidates the 7 Years of One Week, that is the Argument God is using. So there is no Sign and no Vision, before 153 Days, when Global Euthanasia takes place.

1. 7 Weeks = 49 Years, from 2017, that is Nguyen Van Lem, First Resurrection of Antichrist
2. 7 Years from 2017 = 2024 or One Week.............You do not have a legal right to a sign or a vision, furthermore you are still practicing INRI with yourselves and with the Two Witnesses (we can do this for seven more years, at the end of the day, we will see if you can, as your lives come to a full and complete close)

New Testament Question (New York 9/11/2001 Falling Man, as well as Genetic Dan, may not mean nothing, it depends on the weight God has valued with INRI of the Two Witnesses, that makes any Nuclear Strike an act of genocide for that country, because of the sin of the nations, as a challenge of God's Authority, the further we come in the 7 years the better of seeing these people die, "dumb and blind" ... If we can keep the level of force up as it is right now, then it is an offering for God) (you have to use more force against me, lethal force preferably, before the 7 year discernment is complete, so you need to do better then what I am seeing right now, otherwise you will suffer for 7 more years if your lives don't come to a full and complete close, soon)

1. (Matthew 24:20/Rev. 11:3) Flight 370 for 42 Months
2. (Matthew 24:23/Rev. 12:6) "33 Days for 33 Degrees" of Intelligent Design (42 Months) (Atheism, variants of Paganism Dwarf the Gospel Message) (Notice there is No Messiah, just "Antichrist", to answer Daniel's Last 7 Years)
3. (Matthew 24:27/Rev. 11:2) (42 Months) "Sign of Divorce" Limited Geographic Area, City of Philadelphia USA
(Notice there is still No Messiah, just "Lightening")

There is NO MESSIAH DURING THESE SEVEN YEARS! ... That means that you do not have a legal right to a Sign or a Vision. No legal right to a Sign of Divorce, and, No legal right to God's Mercies that identify with God touching the Earth. Today was Flight 370's completion of 42 Months, and you spent today, like every other day of the Antichrist's Lifespan, in committing murder. So we will do this for Seven More Years. And, when you do begin to eliminate Genetic Dan, you may still not qualify for a Sign of Divorce to discern its measurement, as you keep violating my body and testimony, I mean the Two Witnesses, whoever they are. In the mean time, there will be much more pain at your own hands, you may even begin to compete with the Testimony of the Two Witnesses by using Nuclear Weapons, and that may not mean anything at all. Once we settle this problem of authority, you are entitled to nothing, regardless of your actions, as we continue to see what is necessary.

The Answer is Jesus is called "Lightening", and God says in Revelation that Jesus/Lightening is to be Silent, you are entitled to nothing. Love and Blessings (Several Ethnic/Colored Bodies near 60th Street, euthanized, they may of replaced the corpses with dead dogs or cats, see for yourself, this officially begins the next cycle of 1260 Days, in the mean time, use them to use force against the Two Witnesses) (we will continue pain for pain indefinitely, for 7 more years).

George-ananda said:

I just read on another forum that some people are saying the word Messiah (Messias) does not appear anywhere in the KJV New Testament. Some people claim it used to.

I am not asking here if the KJV could or has changed.

What I am asking for is the opinion of people who are well-versed in Bible studies. Does it seem reasonable to your memory to believe Jesus was never discussed in the context of the word 'Messiah' in the KJV New Testament? Or that the word 'Messiah' does not appear at all in the KJV New Testament?

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I didn't look it up, but recalled the use of the word Christ meaning Messiah. Then again it is a rather important Baha'i theme...

(Daniel's Prophecy makes the statement, then the language of the New Testament follows that, "No Messiah" is mentioned..............The Language is Doubled................Jesus rebukes the idea of a "High Priest", as the representative of the Gospel in the New Testament.)

(This originates from the controversy of "Dead Work and Dead Flesh" in soliciting the Fig Leaves/Sign of Divorce. God did the work with Moses and Joshua, then God calls Satan the King with No Kingdom (No Messiah) in Revelations. God wants Satan to do the work of eliminating "Dead Work and Dead Flesh" (Namely Genetic Dan)

(As it stands right now, God wants INRI Resolved, and this matter will be settled soon. When that happens, you will find the Antichrist/Two Witnesses no where near Genetic Dan, his relatives, or what the gospel views as the nations with no favor from God.............Not just resource management, the seven years is the completion of humanities accusation against God, in terminating billions, with or without a warning..............This can be handled in a few ways I'm sure, but at the global level of illustrating God's Mercies (if you don't willfully cooperating, you don't have a place in God's Mercies), the people in the highest positions of the public trust and the heads of state will quickly become the enemies of the people, as Joseph the Blessing Effects Increases, while that is going on, you will be placed in a position of extreme suffering and pain as a consequence of the nature of things, or, you will remedy that suffering and pain by doing what is necessary................that is a good summary of the gospel's position)

(probably better than, Unarius suggestion of using remote areas, not just public parks, but the promise of leaving the area much sooner, with a statement from the authorities under the direction of the media..........."this puts the title of the enemy of the people and the state, where it belongs" (right now, there is lot of this, "God's Enemy and Man's Enemy" stuff, that will have to eventually be put in its proper place. (So we'll have to come back to this idea of total invalidation, but it is good to see this people hurt me in frequency like 2013 to 2014, but were still short of that))

(sure they will, before the hurting really starts, try to center the Antichrist activities as a conflict with Genetic Dan, doesn't mean they will have their way, all of that will backfire)

(Unfortunately, this whole conclusion set, confirms, the fact that the Gospel does not describe the Antichrist, as a politician, etc. dropping down a level from that position, God can take away some mercies after 33 Days Paralleling Jonah, that is where the "Deadly Head Wound" to solicit mercy, comes into play, until God pops the question of the Sign of Divorce, we'll just have to see)

cbullion said:

(Daniel's Prophecy makes the statement, then the language of the New Testament follows that, "No Messiah" is mentioned..............The Language is Doubled................Jesus rebukes the idea of a "High Priest", as the representative of the Gospel in the New Testament.)

(This originates from the controversy of "Dead Work and Dead Flesh" in soliciting the Fig Leaves/Sign of Divorce. God did the work with Moses and Joshua, then God calls Satan the King with No Kingdom (No Messiah) in Revelations. God wants Satan to do the work of eliminating "Dead Work and Dead Flesh" (Namely Genetic Dan)

(As it stands right now, God wants INRI Resolved, and this matter will be settled soon. When that happens, you will find the Antichrist/Two Witnesses no where near Genetic Dan, his relatives, or what the gospel views as the nations with no favor from God.............Not just resource management, the seven years is the completion of humanities accusation against God, in terminating billions, with or without a warning..............This can be handled in a few ways I'm sure, but at the global level of illustrating God's Mercies (if you don't willfully cooperating, you don't have a place in God's Mercies), the people in the highest positions of the public trust and the heads of state will quickly become the enemies of the people, as Joseph the Blessing Effects Increases, while that is going on, you will be placed in a position of extreme suffering and pain as a consequence of the nature of things, or, you will remedy that suffering and pain by doing what is necessary................that is a good summary of the gospel's position)

(probably better than, Unarius suggestion of using remote areas, not just public parks, but the promise of leaving the area much sooner, with a statement from the authorities under the direction of the media..........."this puts the title of the enemy of the people and the state, where it belongs" (right now, there is lot of this, "God's Enemy and Man's Enemy" stuff, that will have to eventually be put in its proper place. (So we'll have to come back to this idea of total invalidation, but it is good to see this people hurt me in frequency like 2013 to 2014, but were still short of that))

(sure they will, before the hurting really starts, try to center the Antichrist activities as a conflict with Genetic Dan, doesn't mean they will have their way, all of that will backfire)

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I'm doing cartwheels over this exciting Genetic Dan disclosure, myself. (until I pulled a groin muscle, thank you very much)

1. Jesus does not want to be called the "Messiah", or the "High Priest" in the New Testament
2. Jesus Comes as the Head of Joseph in the New Testament
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1. Genetic Dan is Called the Lion (Picture of God the Father) (Deu. 33:22)
2. Joseph is Called the Lion (Picture of God the Son) (Luke 3:23)
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1. God calls Genetic Dan the Horse, and says he will not be Their God (Hosea 1:7-10)
2. Jesus says Blasphemy against Joseph will not be Forgiven (Matthew 12:31-32) (to the Next World)
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God's allowance for Generational Sin in the Gospel, is attributed to Four Genetic Lines (Solomon's Stall Contradictions), and technically Aaron. This is gauged in "Joseph the Blessings", furthermore, their conviction was completed in the Old Testament. In the New Testament, nations are made in their likeness as a result of sin, so they can have no portion, in the Sign of Divorce as that is revealed, the rest must be burned, or there will be less of the Sign of Divorce.

(God talks about Canaan, and Abraham's Miracle of Sacrificing Animals for the Everlasting Covenant..............in the New Testament, God shows Peter the Unclean Animals and then talks about Three Thousand Saved.....................Instead of Canaan, "Tyre and Sidon" is used. (God is once against comparing his activities during the 14 Dynasties in Egypt and Babylon, in the book of revelation we see the statement of "Sodom and Egypt" same parallel)

(Reality Check. God has no intention of Giving a Sign of Divorce before the final 1260 Day Cycle, that means, you will only be punished, for doing more than what is necessary (Getting Rid of Genetic Dan is Necessary) (INRI, God does not want the Antichrist to perform your work, nor serve as your payment for sin, this is a consequence of your sin, in the equation of Joseph, that has created the white cop killings and global terrorism, as the baseline of which there will be much more). All of this being true........................God taught Circumcision after Solomon in the New Testament, because that is not the method God uses to reveal his Mercies (Genetic Dan is the Uncircumcised in God's Eyes, so are the unclean), that means, you are left with the "Deadly Head Wound" (don't follow Genetic Dan's example of playing flesh and blood, there is profit in the law for being faithful), as we've discussed, or nothing at all. After 33 Days, I will be back, and then, you can go for god's mercies, or you can just continue to suffer blind, and a lot of that will be taking place. If you are not allowed to cause a certain level of pain and suffering then, you can't, if you are not allowed to kill, then you can't, right now, and for more than half a century, you just can't seem to learn that, out of your own pleasures) (The Euthanasia of Genetic Dan, weekly and daily is real, as this increases, we'll see if you just are willing to absorb pain, like the Antichrist, or respond to that pain with a solution) (If God uses "Pain for Pain", and Euthanasia, then you have a clue about what is necessary)