Desert Snake
Veteran Member
Per narrative, 'Adam', was the first man.
This is not too difficult to believe, what are your problems with it?
This is not too difficult to believe, what are your problems with it?
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Someone had to be First
- Thread starter Thief
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arthra
Baha'i
I didn't take the poll because the option I would have approved of wasn't there.
Baha'is believe there were Prophets before Adam..
And now regarding thy question, "How is it that no records are to be found concerning the Prophets that have preceded Adam, the Father of Mankind, or of the kings that lived in the days of those Prophets?"
Know thou that the absence of any reference to them is no proof that they did not actually exist. That no records concerning them are now available, should be attributed to their extreme remoteness, as well as to the vast changes which the earth hath undergone since their time.
Moreover such forms and modes of writing as are now current amongst men were unknown to the generations that were before Adam. There was even a time when men were wholly ignorant of the art of writing, and had adopted a system entirely different from the one which they now use. For a proper exposition of this an elaborate explanation would be required.
~ Baha'u'llah, Gleanings from the Writings of Baha'u'llah, p. 172
How is it not difficult to believe, when it presumes such an unlikely character as a creator god that is also suspect in goals, character and behavior, besides also being at odds with actual biological knowledge?
On the contrary, it points to the flaw in your logic: a population that changes slowly and where the 'line' is broad need not have a 'first' that crosses the line.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
Whether that is true or not (which is extremely questionable), why do you think it had to be Adam as described in the Bible?
McBell
Resident Sourpuss
Seems to me it is a "Adam of the gap" solution.
Boldly declare there had to be a first.
Act as though that bold empty claim is irrefutable fact.
Then just fill the gap created by the bold empty claim with whatever you like.
Then declare anyone who disagrees is in denial.
Hop on the merry-go-round and enjoy the ride.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
Then you should read the bible again
Chavvah is made from adam, and there is, as far as we know, only one species of human. Therefore, all the genetic information of mankind, was contained in Adam.
The question of whether you like the creator,the biblical deity, or not, is not the thread premise.
You did not answer my question.Then you should read the bible again
Chavvah is made from adam, and there is, as far as we know, only one species of human. Therefore, all the genetic information of mankind, was contained in Adam.
The question of whether you like the creator,the biblical deity, or not, is not the thread premise.
Mister Silver
Faith's Nightmare
There was no logical option in that poll; therefore, I did not vote.
Faithofchristian
Well-Known Member
Adam was not the first man that was made from the dust of the earth and of flesh and blood. Go read Genesis chapter 1 & 2 again?
Faithofchristian
Well-Known Member
The first male and female were created on the six day.Gen 1:26-31.
And then God rested on the seventh day, Gen 2:1-2.
Then after God had rested on the seventh day, then on the day following, God created another male from the dust of the earth.
Gen 2:7.
Faithofchristian
Well-Known Member
To answer your question, Why God said "Let there be light"
Well from what we can read, this light was not the light from the sun, for the sun nor moon were not created until the fourth day
Gen 1:14-19.
So The question is?
Why did God say "Let there be light"
This Light comes from God, Himself.
"In him was life, and the life was the light of men, And the light shine in darkness, and the darkness comprehended it not.
You see back in Genesis 1:3-4, when God said "Let there be light" This light only comes from God Himself. That shine in the darkness, before the sun or moon was created.
Now the question is. What is this Light and what is this darkness ?
If only that had any resemblance to anything factual.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
yeah I know...
and you are made of dust
Thief
Rogue Theologian
and your belief?
Thief
Rogue Theologian
change the name if you care to
pick any belief you like
Someone had to be first.....to walk with God
Thief
Rogue Theologian
I've seen a list.....new testament
records going back to Adam
The list is all fine and good if you need one
but I don't see the need of list....to say someone had to be first
Thief
Rogue Theologian
ok...but I see the account as explanation for the divergence of Man from the item running loose on Day Six
leibowde84
Veteran Member
You didn't answer my question either. Is the only reason why you think God said "let there be light" is because the author of Genesis made the claim that God said it? If so, why does that claim convince you?
leibowde84
Veteran Member
Why do you think this?