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New Evidence Confirms The Burning Of Jerusalem By Babylonians Described In The Bible

Kemosloby

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Premium Member
Close enough for me. I think would be irrelevant to tack on "but left a few small houses on the outskirts of town" The major point is he didn't spare even the great expensive homes, he just burned them to the ground.

"Now on the seventh day of the fifth month, which was the nineteenth year of King Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon, Nebuzaradan the captain of the guard, a servant of the king of Babylon, came to Jerusalem. He burned the house of the Lord, the king's house, and all the houses of Jerusalem; even every great house he burned with fire." But left a few small houses on the outskirts of town.
 

Magus

Active Member
Over exaggerating and they keep referring to the City of David, as if he was a real person and they have yet to find the Temple of Solomon.
 

DavidFirth

Well-Known Member
But.. but... I thought that the Bible was just a mythological book with no truth in it whatsoever... isn't it?
 

DavidFirth

Well-Known Member
Your comment would make a lot more sense if it related to an actual argument that people actually make in the real world.

I was arguing with a guy just yesterday who had said that the Bible is a fairy tale book. Fairy tales usually are not confirmed in the least by archaeological evidence.
 

Magus

Active Member
Denying the historicity of David is typically an act of sophomoric obstinacy, as insistent as it is stupid.

There is no evidence for King David or his united empire of non Canaanites in Canaan, that make no historical sense at all.

The Nebuchadnezzar Chronicle writes 'Land of Hatti ' (below in pink)
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There was in fact a 'Judea' in Hatti-Land, known in Hittite 'Yadiya' (Ieude ) .

 

DavidFirth

Well-Known Member
There is no evidence for King David or his united empire of non Canaanites in Canaan, that make no historical sense at all.

The Nebuchadnezzar Chronicle writes 'Land of Hatti ' (below in pink)
asia.gif


There was in fact a 'Judea' in Hatti-Land, known in Hittite 'Yadiya' (Ieude ) .


There is evidence of King David, though most of this evidence isn't 100% conclusive, it is evidence for his existence nevertheless.

The Tel Dan Inscription: The First Historical Evidence of King David from the Bible - Biblical Archaeology Society

Did I Find King David's Palace? - Biblical Archaeology Society

Myth and Reality of King David's Jerusalem

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/12/141216100433.htm

So Was King David Real? - The Great Adventure Catholic Bible Study
 

Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
There is no evidence for King David
There is no evidence that you acknowledge. Even Israel Finkelstein acknowledges David. So, for example, ...

Finkelstein sees the biblical description of the time of David and Solomon as multilayered. He acknowledges the historicity of the founders of the Davidic Dynasty, places them in the 10th century BCE, and considers the possibility that the description of the rise of David to power conceals old memories of his activity as a leader of an Apiru-band that was active in the southern fringe of Judah. Yet, he sees the description of a great United Monarchy as an ideological construct that represents the ideology of late-monarchic author/s in the late 7th century BCE, first and foremost the pan-Israelite ideology of the days of King Josiah of Judah. According to him, the historical David and Solomon ruled over a small territory in the southern highlands – a territory not very different from that of Jerusalem of the Late Bronze Age. Finkelstein sees much of the description of King Solomon as representing realities from late monarchic times: First, from the later days of the Northern Kingdom (for instance, the reference to Megiddo, Hazor and Gezer in 1 Kings 9:15 and to the stables, horses and chariots of Solomon). Second, from the time of King Manasseh of Judah in the early 7th century BCE, under Assyrian domination (for instance, the visit of the Queen of Sheba in Jerusalem).[13] He understands the description of the Philistines in the Bible as portraying realities in Philistia in late-monarchic times.[14] - source

Your denial is a pathetic joke.


The Nebuchadnezzar Chronicle writes 'Land of Hatti '
Siege of Jerusalem
 
I was arguing with a guy just yesterday who had said that the Bible is a fairy tale book. Fairy tales usually are not confirmed in the least by archaeological evidence.

What people mean is there are mythical aspects to the Bible, not 100% of everything is completely fictitious. That you don't believe in genesis creation doesn't mean you need to believe that Cyrus the Great wasn't a real person for example.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
But.. but... I thought that the Bible was just a mythological book with no truth in it whatsoever... isn't it?

It has some historical facts in it. Mostly after about 900BC and centered on the eastern Mediterranean. And from the point of view of a couple of small kingdoms on the edge of real history.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
I was arguing with a guy just yesterday who had said that the Bible is a fairy tale book. Fairy tales usually are not confirmed in the least by archaeological evidence.

The Iliad and the Odyssey are confirmed by archaeological evidence. That doesn't mean that the Trojan war was really caused by a conflict between the different goddesses over who was most beautiful. The myths of the gods are fairy tales. But the story is told from in a historical background.
 

DavidFirth

Well-Known Member
It has some historical facts in it. Mostly after about 900BC and centered on the eastern Mediterranean. And from the point of view of a couple of small kingdoms on the edge of real history.

I believe the events in Exodus date before 900 BC, if I'm not mistaken. Many of the places mentioned in Exodus have been confirmed to have existed by archaeologists.
 

DavidFirth

Well-Known Member
The Iliad and the Odyssey are confirmed by archaeological evidence. That doesn't mean that the Trojan war was really caused by a conflict between the different goddesses over who was most beautiful. The myths of the gods are fairy tales. But the story is told from in a historical background.

Those are epic poems, not fairy tales. A fairy tale is Peter Pan or Mother Goose.
 

DavidFirth

Well-Known Member
What people mean is there are mythical aspects to the Bible, not 100% of everything is completely fictitious. That you don't believe in genesis creation doesn't mean you need to believe that Cyrus the Great wasn't a real person for example.

A fairy tale is Peter Pan or Mother Goose. Let's see if you can confirm one of them with archaeological evidence. To say the Bible is a fairy tale is similar to saying it is complete fiction. Cyrus the Great is not a fairy tale. Jack in the Beanstalk is a fairy tale.
 
A fairy tale is Peter Pan or Mother Goose. Let's see if you can confirm one of them with archaeological evidence. To say the Bible is a fairy tale is similar to saying it is complete fiction. Cyrus the Great is not a fairy tale. Jack in the Beanstalk is a fairy tale.

If you choose to purposely misunderstand the nuances of other people's language then there isn't a great deal anyone can do to stop you. It's not the most constructive endeavour though.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
I was arguing with a guy just yesterday who had said that the Bible is a fairy tale book. Fairy tales usually are not confirmed in the least by archaeological evidence.

You might have been arguing with an idiot. Or just someone who was overplaying a metaphor.
 
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