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How are these Great Beings explained?

Vinayaka

Vinayaka

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adrian009 said:
It has been a great assistance for the Baha'is here and others to have your contribution that enables a better understanding of Hinduism. The result for me, has been to better understand the Baha'i Faith too. It is liberating to dispense with the idea that Hinduism = worshipping Krishna and look with fresh eyes at both Hinduism and the Baha'i writings.
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Thank you for having open ears. Assistance, like you are referring to above, only happens with open ears. Unfortunately, for those with heavy dogma, ears are often not open. (It falls on deaf ears.) So be it, and you can't win 'em all. Any faith that puts ahimsa right up there is good by me. We need to see the entire spectrum, and with increased communication, and availability of resources, it is becoming easier.
 
RoaringSilence

RoaringSilence

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most hindu are shy to advertise their religionand that has earned us respect..but coz other religions are pushing it to the brim ..its creating a responsibility for us to go out and talk to people..even though im a noob , i know nothing much ..yet im in panic that since other religions are converting and ..our radio channels tv media making beef sound seductive and tasty,..( hindus don't eat beef)..all these things are making me peddle our religion too..
the heat is rising coz our neighbour (pakistan)is training extremists and making things like ghawza -e- hind as common talk on their tv shows..that's why i had lost some of my cool as you can see in how i dealt with you guys rudely and i apologize for it. and i calm down to see what you guys said .
 
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RoaringSilence

RoaringSilence

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for this life im duty bound to defend our heritage more than my soul landing in hell fire..which is why i refuse to confuse my self with more of god's demands , if reincarnation is true then i get another chance at any true religion in future life(s). if re incarnation is false and i get hellfire ..i can get used to any torture that is prolonged for eternity..eventually i will develop immunity to fire as soul is immortal.
 
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TransmutingSoul

TransmutingSoul

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RoaringSilence said:
for this life im duty bound to defend our heritage more than my soul landing in hell fire..which is why i refuse to confuse my self with more of god's demands , if reincarnation is true then i get another chance at bahai religion in future life(s). if re incarnation is false and i get hellfire ..i can get used to any torture that is prolonged for eternity..eventually i will develop immunity to fire as soul is immortal.
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There are pasages in Holy Scriptures that say we have this life to do just that. The Bible for an example says it is to be Born Again. This is our Heritage, this is what we exist to acheive. It is what we have free will to consider.

These same writings say Knowing and Loving God through what God has shown us and living out life in compliance to that, is the ultimate state a man can arise to. The Holy Books tell us this is obtaining to eternal life, life that death in this world can not overtake.

These same writings say any level of not obtaining to this knowledge is the hell we are to avoid, again it is freely our choice to consider all these things.

I hope you always continue to be well and happy and that you will always keep searching for all that is good.

Regards Tony
 
RoaringSilence

RoaringSilence

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Tony Bristow-Stagg said:
There are pasages in Holy Scriptures that say we have this life to do just that. The Bible for an example says it is to be Born Again. This is our Heritage, this is what we exist to acheive. It is what we have free will to consider.

These same writings say Knowing and Loving God through what God has shown us and living out life in compliance to that, is the ultimate state a man can arise to. The Holy Books tell us this is obtaining to eternal life, life that death in this world can not overtake.

These same writings say any level of not obtaining to this knowledge is the hell we are to avoid, again it is freely our choice to consider all these things.

I hope you always continue to be well and happy and that you will always keep searching for all that is good.

Regards Tony
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the problem is .the ones who run behind the scenes ,not the true christians or the good muslims..who take an inner coarse and connect with god without a mediator (within) ( the garden of eden is within you - your mind and your soul adam and eve and the kingdom of god is also within at least try once to find it ) .
THEY (pak) decide that they distribute hindu hate content in their school books.almost 24/7 on their media for 40 damn years we lose soldiers in dozens almost weekly...and the whole world doesn't help us show what they re doing we keep aiming at the world authorities to do the right thing by keeping a check on what is being taught in pak schools and tv .. . In our schools we are taught - whole world is family, all religions are equal , we have president muslim sikh christian..we do the best we can even to the point of pleasing them out of the way ..so that peace prevails.

and the same intengetia and cunning people..bring things like ghazwa - e - hind to common folk..tell them that hindu is dirty ..filth fair game...
so if someone constantly 24/7 aiming at destroying his neighbour country.. he is also dening jesus teaching (people of the book) to love the neighbor..but you teach in school to hate hindu?



 
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TransmutingSoul

TransmutingSoul

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RoaringSilence said:
the problem is .the ones who run behind the scenes ,not the true christians or the good muslims..who take an inner coarse and connect with god without a mediator (within) ( the garden of eden is within you - your mind and your soul adam and eve and the kingdom of god is also within at least try once to find it ) .
THEY (pak) decide that they distribute hindu hate content in their school books.almost 24/7 on their media for 40 damn years we lose soldiers in dozens almost weekly...and the whole world doesn't help us show what they re doing we keep aiming at the world authorities to do the right thing by keeping a check on what is being taught in pak schools and tv .. . In our schools we are taught - whole world is family, all religions are equal , we have president muslim sikh christian..we do the best we can even to the point of pleasing them out of the way ..so that peace prevails.

and the same intengetia and cunning people..bring things like ghazwa - e - hind to common folk..tell them that hindu is dirty ..filth fair game...
so if someone constantly 24/7 aiming at destroying his neighbour country.. he is also dening jesus teaching (people of the book) to love the neighbor..but you teach in school to hate hindu?



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Luckily we Love Hindu. :)

Hate and Predudices are on the way out. Love and Unity are on the way in.

We teach that the foundation of the Faith of the Hindus is God.

Regards Tony
 
Vinayaka

Vinayaka

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Tony Bristow-Stagg said:
Luckily we Love Hindu. :)

Hate and Predudices are on the way out. Love and Unity are on the way in.

We teach that the foundation of the Faith of the Hindus is God.

Regards Tony
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Not for atheistic Hindus, and it could well be a different God, but for the most part, God is at the core of Hindu thought. Anbe Sivamayan Satyame Parasivam. (God Siva is immanent love and transcendent reality)
 
TransmutingSoul

TransmutingSoul

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Vinayaka said:
Not for atheistic Hindus, and it could well be a different God, but for the most part, God is at the core of Hindu thought. Anbe Sivamayan Satyame Parasivam. (God Siva is immanent love and transcendent reality)
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Thats ok we will all allow Athieisim to use the Virtues given by God, Gods Light Gods Life. :):);)

Regards Tony
 
Vinayaka

Vinayaka

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Tony Bristow-Stagg said:
Thats ok we will all allow Athieisim to use the Virtues given by God, Gods Light Gods Life. :):);)

Regards Tony
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As you know (I think) virtues vary as well, at least by order of importance. We've been down this road before though.

I don't consider virtues specifically as God given, just as virtues. It;s dualistic thinking, to me. God is all, not just all that is good.
 
RoaringSilence

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Tony Bristow-Stagg said:
Thats ok we will all allow Athieisim to use the Virtues given by God, Gods Light Gods Life. :):);)

Regards Tony
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this "we will allow" ? thing isn't what anyone is looking for atleast not in dharmic .. we don't allow anyone to rule us or govern us.. no exchange of freedom for teaching method to god. we have many god men with exactly same concepts and they run their govt's with-in , just like god said kingdom within..so govt also within. each person is president of his own body and he can create the council of elders within his mind. its all inside ..

you should re phrase and say when i meditate I WILL ALLOW atheism a healthy corner in my mind.and when you teach other you teach them to self govern as well. and go inwards.
 
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Vinayaka

Vinayaka

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RoaringSilence said:
the problem is .the ones who run behind the scenes ,not the true christians or the good muslims..who take an inner coarse and connect with god without a mediator (within) ( the garden of eden is within you - your mind and your soul adam and eve and the kingdom of god is also within at least try once to find it ) .
THEY (pak) decide that they distribute hindu hate content in their school books.almost 24/7 on their media for 40 damn years we lose soldiers in dozens almost weekly...and the whole world doesn't help us show what they re doing we keep aiming at the world authorities to do the right thing by keeping a check on what is being taught in pak schools and tv .. . In our schools we are taught - whole world is family, all religions are equal , we have president muslim sikh christian..we do the best we can even to the point of pleasing them out of the way ..so that peace prevails.

and the same intengetia and cunning people..bring things like ghazwa - e - hind to common folk..tell them that hindu is dirty ..filth fair game...
so if someone constantly 24/7 aiming at destroying his neighbour country.. he is also dening jesus teaching (people of the book) to love the neighbor..but you teach in school to hate hindu?

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It's the tolerant Hindu way, friend. But in many ways our tolerance has also been our downfall. You think that stranger means no harm, you let him into your house, and then slowly he just takes over. But I think those days are over. We're far more wary now, for very good reasons. Better just to give the stranger some food, and ask him to be on his way.
 
Vinayaka

Vinayaka

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RoaringSilence said:
this "we will allow" ? thing isn't what anyone is looking for atleast not in dharmic .. we don't allow anyone to rule us or govern us.. no exchange of freedom for teaching method to god. we have many god men with exactly same concepts and they run their govt's with-in , just like god said kingdom within..so govt also within. each person is president of his own body and he can create the council of elders within his mind. its all inside ..

you should re phrase and say when i meditate I WILL ALLOW atheism a healthy corner in my mind.
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Indeed, this, 'we will allow' thing is a problem. Just who decided you were the one to allow anything. It's not up to someone else to decide for anyone what is right and what's wrong.
 
RoaringSilence

RoaringSilence

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the demons i spoke of earlier are actually the bad thoughts of the RAVANA head ( ravana had 10 heads ) 5 were good strengths and 5 were vices .. sita (rams's consort ) was the soul. captured by the good and bad thoughts trapped in its maya. ram (god) used his arrows of truth to quiet all demons so sita can meet ram. INSIDE.

this is the method of meditation that valmiki guru used ..to free his soul within.. which became the epic story of ramayana. he wrote ramayan with tapasya ..= self samadhi ..
 
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RoaringSilence

RoaringSilence

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Tony Bristow-Stagg said:
Thats ok we will all allow Athieisim to use the Virtues given by God, Gods Light Gods Life. :):);)

Regards Tony
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i would suggest you revist this whole thing of govermning others..if you really want kingdom of god then create more and more self governed people. religion + state are separate entity .and religion is personal business of inward quest.
 
Vinayaka

Vinayaka

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RoaringSilence said:
.and religion is personal business of inward quest.
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This is the Hindu and dharmic view, and in part why I am a Hindu. It is in sharp contrast to Abrahamic faiths who not only willingly share their faith, but in many cases it's commanded for them to do so. So spreading the 'good news' is part of the religion. I'd rather keep quiet personally, and because of that, very rarely even find out how other Hindus view the world.
 
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