This is a very brave woman.

Magus · Jul 18, 2017

Christianity, Islam and Judaism are misogynistic religions, that is a fact. God is a MAN, Jesus is a MAN, Muhammad is a MAN, all the prophets are MEN.
God is a Father ( Father - The MALE whose semen fertilised the ovum from which a child was born )

I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.” (1 Timothy 2:12)
Thou shalt not approach unto a woman to uncover her nakedness, as long as she is put apart for her uncleanness ( Leviticus 18:19)
They question thee (O Muhammad) concerning menstruation. Say: It is an illness ( Quran 2:222)
Goyim girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth. ( Talmud - Abodah Zarah 36b. )
A Jew may do to a non-Jewess what he can do. He may treat her as he treats a piece of meat. ( Talmid - Hadarine, 20, B; Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348)

The reason these religion are misogynistic is because women menstruate, for this reason, men cover their women with black clothes, and deem them impure, hence girls in Muslim family wear the veil when there periods start.

Why does 'MR God' punish women for having a biological function ?

FearGod · Jul 18, 2017

David1967 said:
This is a very brave woman IMO. Her life is now at risk by the "morality" police. Discuss.

Saudi Arabia investigates video of young woman walking in miniskirt

She would be much much braver if she wore just underwear or wow if none at all,
she'll be a hero IMO.

Muslim-UK · Jul 18, 2017

David1967 said:
Says who?

The earliest manuscripts. All modern translations of the Bible come with a disclaimer that, this story is not found in early manuscripts.

Magus · Jul 18, 2017

Muslim-UK said:
The earliest manuscripts. All modern translations of the Bible come with a disclaimer that, this story is not found in early manuscripts.

Original manuscripts no longer exists for every Book in both the Bible & Quran , everything in these books are unoriginal.

Indeed i could claim that every single book in all of the Bible and Quran are forgeries and you can't prove or disprove it, so everything that religious believe is all on faith.

The Holy Bottom Burp · Jul 18, 2017

Magus said:
Christianity, Islam and Judaism are misogynistic religions, that is a fact. God is a MAN, Jesus is a MAN, Muhammad is a MAN, all the prophets are MEN.
God is a Father ( Father - The MALE whose semen fertilised the ovum from which a child was born )

I agree that the Abrahamic religions tend to be misogynistic, usually there is men at the top raking in the money from the faithful, and telling them how they should act to please god. Funny that isn't it?

In groups of primates we see that males dominate, so perhaps we shouldn't be so surprised our species is the same. The gods the males invent tend to be male because, well the males are the dominant powerful ones right? I'm of the view that we should be leaving backward beliefs like that behind in the 21st century, but religion is big business; it is going to be around for as long as it can, churning out the misogynistic stuff. It is one of the reasons I have anti theistic tendencies, I feel compelled to oppose it.

RoaringSilence · Jul 18, 2017

What can be done is to offer instant asylum to people by other countries from saudi.. esp women. when people know they have instant escape , saudi might run dry of women eventually.

David1967 · Jul 19, 2017

UPDATE. Good news regarding the fate of this young lady. Apparently she was arrested but released without charges, and according to this article at least some of the Saudi leadership are pushing for more freedom for women in the kingdom. link;

Saudis release woman arrested after viral miniskirt video

David1967 · Jul 19, 2017

FearGod said:
She would be much much braver if she wore just underwear or wow if none at all,
she'll be a hero IMO.

Man, that is funny.

David1967 · Jul 19, 2017

Muslim-UK said:
The earliest manuscripts. All modern translations of the Bible come with a disclaimer that, this story is not found in early manuscripts.

True, But that doesn't necessarily mean that they are forgeries, just that they were found at a later time. Would it be more appealing if Jesus were not compassionate?

Muslim-UK · Jul 19, 2017

David1967 said:
True, But that doesn't necessarily mean that they are forgeries, just that they were found at a later time.

We know they are forged because the manuscripts they copied from did not contain them.

David1967 said:
Would it be more appealing if Jesus were not compassionate?

All Prophets of God were compassionate. One only has to study authentic sources to see that.

David1967 · Jul 19, 2017

Muslim-UK said:
We know they are forged because the manuscripts they copied from did not contain them.

On whose authority? Serious question.

Muslim-UK said:
All Prophets of God were compassionate.

All prophets of God should be compassionate. But some of those OT guys were very hard core.

Muslim-UK said:
One only has to study authentic sources to see that.

Do you have a recommendation for this authentic source?

DavidFirth · Jul 19, 2017

The Muslim women of Turkey dress conservatively and I think they set a great example of how all women should dress themselves. They look fantastic without revealing much, if any, flesh at all.

There are no rules in the NT except that women should not dress like men and vice versa.

Muslim-UK · Jul 19, 2017

David1967 said:
On whose authority? Serious question.

Bruce Metzger, who was of the leading textual critics of our day, writes in his Textual Commentary on the Greek New Testament, “the case against Johannine authorship appears to be conclusive.”

The pericope is not found in most of the early Greek Gospel manuscripts. It is not in P66, and it is not in P75, both of which have been assigned to the late 100s or early 200s. Nor is it in two important manuscripts produced in the early/mid 300s, Sinaiticus and Vaticanus. The first surviving Greek manuscript to contain the pericope is the Latin/Greek diglot Codex Bezae, produced in the 400s or 500s (but displaying a form of text which has affinities with "Western" readings used in the 100s and 200s). Codex Bezae is also the earliest surviving Latin manuscript to contain it. Out of 23 Old Latin manuscripts of John 7-8, seventeen contain at least part of the pericope, and represent at least three transmission-streams in which it was included.

In terms of simple quantities, 1,495 Greek manuscripts include the pericope adulterae (or part of it, supporting the inclusion of the passage as a whole), and 267 do not include it. Among those 267, however, are some manuscripts which are exceptionally early and which most textual analysts consider the most important.

Jesus and the woman taken in adultery - Wikipedia

List of New Testament papyri - Wikipedia

David1967 said:
All prophets of God should be compassionate. But some of those OT guys were very hard core.

Lies to justify not following God's commandments.

David1967 said:
Do you have a recommendation for this authentic source?

Do you have the patience to read books, even if it be a few pages a week?

Akivah · Jul 19, 2017

Magus said:
Christianity, Islam and Judaism are misogynistic religions, that is a fact. God is a MAN, Jesus is a MAN, Muhammad is a MAN, all the prophets are MEN.
God is a Father

In accordance with Judaism, only one of your statements above is fully correct. Muhammad is a man.

G-d is not a man, nor a human.

Of the 48 biblical prophets, seven of them were women. They are Miriam, Deborah, Hannah, Abigail, Huldah, Esther, Sarah.

Akivah · Jul 19, 2017

SearchingForGod said:
I agree that she is brave, and I'm upset that she could now be in jeopardy all because she was wearing a miniskirt. Women should be free to dress as they please (within the bounds of basic decency, of course) and not forced by law to cover completely as they must in Saudi Arabia.

Her actions might also be stupidity. Both male and females in that area call for punishing people, even up to the death penalty, for dressing like that.

Besides, America has its own dress code laws that it forces upon women. There was a case recently at a beach (don't remember where) where a woman choose to wear a burka (full body covering) on the beach. The police came by and forced her to take it off.

David1967 · Jul 19, 2017

Muslim-UK said:
Bruce Metzger, who was of the leading textual critics of our day, writes in his Textual Commentary on the Greek New Testament, “the case against Johannine authorship appears to be conclusive.”

The pericope is not found in most of the early Greek Gospel manuscripts. It is not in P66, and it is not in P75, both of which have been assigned to the late 100s or early 200s. Nor is it in two important manuscripts produced in the early/mid 300s, Sinaiticus and Vaticanus. The first surviving Greek manuscript to contain the pericope is the Latin/Greek diglot Codex Bezae, produced in the 400s or 500s (but displaying a form of text which has affinities with "Western" readings used in the 100s and 200s). Codex Bezae is also the earliest surviving Latin manuscript to contain it. Out of 23 Old Latin manuscripts of John 7-8, seventeen contain at least part of the pericope, and represent at least three transmission-streams in which it was included.

In terms of simple quantities, 1,495 Greek manuscripts include the pericope adulterae (or part of it, supporting the inclusion of the passage as a whole), and 267 do not include it. Among those 267, however, are some manuscripts which are exceptionally early and which most textual analysts consider the most important.

Thank you for providing your source.

Muslim-UK said:
Lies to justify not following God's commandments.

Not sure who you are referring to. Do you mean any prophet who was not compassionate?

Muslim-UK said:
Do you have the patience to read books, even if it be a few pages a week?

Oh yes. I have quite an extensive library. I have religious books and commentaries from Christian, Hindu, Buddhist etc. I do have and have read the Quran as well. So yes I am interested in any suggestions you may have as well.

Magus · Jul 19, 2017

Akivah said:
In accordance with Judaism, only one of your statements above is fully correct. Muhammad is a man.

G-d is not a man, nor a human.

Of the 48 biblical prophets, seven of them were women. They are Miriam, Deborah, Hannah, Abigail, Huldah, Esther, Sarah.

Mr God is a Man, if you where well versed in Hebrew, you aught to know how to distinguish masculine and feminine Hebrew nouns.

David1967 · Jul 19, 2017

Magus said:
Mr God is a Man, if you where well versed in Hebrew, you aught to know how to distinguish masculine and feminine Hebrew nouns.

My understanding is that God is Spirit and above fleshly gender. However God is referred to in the Masculine.

Skwim · Jul 19, 2017

Akivah said:
Her actions might also be stupidity. Both male and females in that area call for punishing people, even up to the death penalty, for dressing like that.

Besides, America has its own dress code laws that it forces upon women. There was a case recently at a beach (don't remember where) where a woman choose to wear a burka (full body covering) on the beach. The police came by and forced her to take it off.

It was France

.

Magus · Jul 19, 2017

David1967 said:
My understanding is that God is Spirit and above fleshly gender. However God is referred to in the Masculine.

Well in Hebrew, 'Spirit' is a feminine noun (רוּחַ) meaning Wind
or breath, does that mean God is a female?

This is a very brave woman.

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