This is a very brave woman IMO. Her life is now at risk by the "morality" police. Discuss.
Saudi Arabia investigates video of young woman walking in miniskirt
Saudi Arabia investigates video of young woman walking in miniskirt
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This is a very brave woman.
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The Holy Bottom Burp
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As much as I detest that sort of uptight, prudish, misogynistic religious attitude to the sight of female flesh, and the institutionalised bias against equal rights for women, I'd say that is probably the wrong way to go about it. Many Muslim women would not approve of such attire, admittedly because they have been indoctrinated that way, so all it is likely to do is get her punished while not advancing the cause of women's liberation in Saudi Arabia an inch.
What is more important is for women to get themselves in positions of power and influence, to change society, to change the way Islamic countries view women. That is a long hard battle, but it should never be given up by the Muslim female intelligentsia.
What is more important is for women to get themselves in positions of power and influence, to change society, to change the way Islamic countries view women. That is a long hard battle, but it should never be given up by the Muslim female intelligentsia.
I approve of her action. I think we might see it as similar to blacks sitting at a white-only lunch counter section in the 1950's America. At the right time, there is a place for flaunting a law one feels unjust. Protesters may pay consequences in the beginning, but they are sacrificing for a social cause whose victory may be years away.
That is an excellent comparison.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
'60's, not '50's. Sorry about correcting you but they would not have made it out of the Woolworth's in the '50s. Although I commend the bravery and intent of this woman, timing is everything.
Feb 1, 1960 in Greenville, NC. I thought it was Little Rock in1957 but that may have been something else. but it's close.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Lashes I suppose. Or caning is forthcoming.
BSM1
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It was Greensboro, NC, not Greenville. Sorry to correct you again, but this is in my neck of the woods. Little Rock was the school integration thing.
What did Jesus pbuh teach regarding dress codes?
Augustus
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Civil disobedience has been used in countless protest movements. You need to break the law you are protesting against.
Similar to the Saudi women who take pictures of themselves driving.
Maybe she's just a normal woman who is not part of the intelligentsia and unlikely to rise to a position of power (at least not any time soon).
She got far more attention and raised far more discussion than giving a lecture on 'feminism and Islamic gender roles' too.
Augustus
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That if a club wouldn't let him in wearing sandals and robes, then it's probably not the kind of place he would have enjoyed anyway?
SearchingForGod
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I agree that she is brave, and I'm upset that she could now be in jeopardy all because she was wearing a miniskirt. Women should be free to dress as they please (within the bounds of basic decency, of course) and not forced by law to cover completely as they must in Saudi Arabia.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Nothing white after Labor Day?
Skwim
Veteran Member
She is a brave woman. But don't think for a minute that we in America don't have our own "morality police." Think of all those laws against women going topless in public. Or state laws against adultery. Or laws against prostitution. Or laws against bestiality (zoophilia).
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The Holy Bottom Burp
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Wouldn't disagree mate, but would the majority of Saudi women be in favour of being able to display flesh in public legally anyway? They are Muslims after all, and have been indoctrinated to believe it sends men into an instant frenzy of carnal desire.
I was thinking more of the personal consequences that woman might have to face if they identify her. Jail? Lashing? It is a hell of a price for wearing a short skirt.
Speaking of which... https://www.forbes.com/sites/ellenr...-arabia-relaxes-rules-for-women/#733a81892d6a Rejoice sisters! You may be allowed to drive yourself soon!
Yes, she got plenty of attention, but sex sells doesn't it? I cant see equal rights for women in Saudi Arabia (if it ever happens) to be starting with the right to bare flesh in public. I'm pretty sure most Saudi women would put employment rights and freedom of movement rights above that.
In his own words? Not sure, please share. I'm positive that what he taught did not involve lashes or the death penalty. The time he was approached by the religious folk from his community with the woman caught in adultery he said "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone." That rules out all of us.
Jesus pbuh said very little unless you consider him to be God, then in the Torah and Talmud, he said plenty on dress code. In the NT, Paul and Peter wrote:
I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God. 1 Timothy 2:9-10
Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as braided hair and the wearing of gold jewelry and fine clothes. Instead, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God's sight. For this is the way the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to make themselves beautiful. 1 Peter 3:2-5
The story of the adulteress woman is not found in any early Manuscripts, it's a later forgery.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Or murder...oh..wait..
Says who? Is it because like the religious zealots in the account of the adulterous woman that many people prefer brutality over the compassion that Jesus showed this woman by saying "neither do I condemn you, go and sin no more." And I am well aware of what was said in Timothy and Peter. Those were guidelines. However they did not say to beat the s**t out of her or murder her if she didn't comply. I got a better idea. This way no one gets hurt. How about if you don't like the way a lady dresses herself, then don't go around her....and stop staring at her for God sake.