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Reason relative to Religion within Politics

Shadow Link

Shadow Link

Active Member
Dear, Philosophy Forum

[Here is my own review of this thread to get us started]
"An amazing insight into the comparison of a religious division found within the realm of modern politics linked together with a truer sense of a more deeply developed core understanding of religious Word Math. An interesting perspective none the less!" [laughing]

Here we shall attempt(because everything is debatable) to compare the Seven Deadly Sins from the Christian religion along with the popular name calling often spewed from both the Democratic and Republican parties toward each other. I'll try to keep things as simple as I can.

*Seven Deadly Sins:
Envy
Gluttony
Pride
Wrathful
Lust
Slothfulness
Greed

Name calling from the Democrats to the Republicans:
*Greed (relative to capitalism)
*Gluttony (relative to class warfare; over indulging/having to much)
*Pride (relative to pride of heritage)

Name calling from the Republicans to the Democrats:
*Envy (relative to power)
*Lust (relative to sexually immature matters)
*Slothfulness (relative to welfare abuse)
**Wrath (unjustifiable actions inflicted upon the innocent)

**Wrath, currently resides and is suspect with the extreme left democratic side.

On an ending note:
Biblically, "Wrath" is also explained as the main attribute of Satan, presumably, when examined through a careful study of scripture.

THOUGHTS!?!!
 
PureX

PureX

Veteran Member
Shadow Link said:
THOUGHTS!?!!
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Seems to me that wrath exists on both sides whenever they don't get their own way, or they see the country going the way they believe to be "wrong". Besides that, I don't really see the point of this comparison.
 
Shadow Link

Shadow Link

Active Member
PureX said:
Seems to me that wrath exists on both sides whenever they don't get their own way, or they see the country going the way they believe to be "wrong". Besides that, I don't really see the point of this comparison.
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Of course wrath exist on both sides. I think wrath could be expressed best by seeing it a lot more like the damned ping pong ball nobody wants to lose with on their side. Its like Wrath tips the scale for whoever loses the four year match.
 
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URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Shadow Link said:
Dear, Philosophy Forum
[Here is my own review of this thread to get us started]
"An amazing insight into the comparison of a religious division found within the realm of modern politics linked together with a truer sense of a more deeply developed core understanding of religious Word Math. An interesting perspective none the less!" [laughing]
Here we shall attempt(because everything is debatable) to compare the Seven Deadly Sins from the Christian religion.............
THOUGHTS!?!!
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Religious division found within the realm of modern politics..... from the Christian religion comes Acts of the Apostles 23:5 B to Not speak bad of a ruler, and from Exodus 22:28 to never curse or revile a ruler, so genuine ' wheat ' Christians, like Jesus and his first-century followers, would be separate from world affairs and take a neutral stand in the political arena.
 
Shadow Link

Shadow Link

Active Member
URAVIP2ME said:
Religious division found within the realm of modern politics..... from the Christian religion comes Acts of the Apostles 23:5 B to Not speak bad of a ruler, and from Exodus 22:28 to never curse or revile a ruler, so genuine ' wheat ' Christians, like Jesus and his first-century followers, would be separate from world affairs and take a neutral stand in the political arena.
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Are you saying that you did not vote in the primary election?
 
PureX

PureX

Veteran Member
Shadow Link said:
Of course wrath exist on both sides. I think wrath could be expressed best by seeing it a lot more like the damned ping pong ball nobody wants to lose with on their side. Its like Wrath tips the scale for whoever loses the four year match.
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Ultimately, you're trying to apply morality to politics, and I think that's a waste of time.

The problem with our politics is not that it's immoral, it's that it's dysfunctional. We are supposed to be electing people to represent our needs and desires in the decision-making process of governing the country. And as those needs and desires clash, they are tasked with finding a reasonable and workable compromise. But the morality zealots have gained control of the republican party, making it anathema to compromise, and willing to blow up the government when they're not getting everything their own way. And while this has been going on, the oligarchs have used this division and dysfunction in government caused by the morality zealots to gain more and more influence over the politicians until they now no longer represent the people at all, but only the wealthy oligarchs that bribe them, legally, for whatever legislation they want.

We have completely lost control of our own government, and we are unable to take control back because the morality zealots among us are still dividing us all against each other and refusing to compromise for the sake of unity and effectiveness. And as long as we remain divided against each other, the oligarchs continue to control our government, and will continue to use it to exploit and abuse us for their own gain.
 
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Desert Snake

Veteran Member
These are general accusations. I have no idea why they would actually be specific. So, not understanding the point of the thread
 
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URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
PureX said:
Ultimately, you're trying to apply morality to politics, and I think that's a waste of time.
The problem with our politics is not that it's immoral, it's that it's dysfunctional. We are supposed to be electing people to represent our needs and desires in the decision-making process of governing the country. And as those needs and desires clash, they are tasked with finding a reasonable and workable compromise. But the morality zealots have gained control of the republican party, making it anathema to compromise, and willing to blow up the government when they're not getting everything their own way. And while this has been going on, the oligarchs have used this division and dysfunction in government caused by the morality zealots to gain more and more influence over the politicians until they now no longer represent the people at all, but only the wealthy oligarchs that bribe them, legally, for whatever legislation they want.
We have completely lost control of our own government, and we are unable to take control back because the morality zealots among us are still dividing us all against each other and refusing to compromise for the sake of unity and effectiveness. And as long as we remain divided against each other, the oligarchs continue to control our government, and will continue to use it to exploit and abuse us for their own gain.
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Back in the late 1700's there was a professor named Alexander Tyler who concluded a democracy can't last more than about 200 years because once people figure out how to get the money out of the treasury it causes economic collapse.
Who knows, with a bad economy the wealth the churches have amassed could look like easy taking for the political.
 
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URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Shadow Link said:
Are you saying that you did not vote in the primary election?
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As Jesus said to render unto 'Caesar' what is 'Caesars', but God's things to God.
So, I find God's kingdom, His government (Daniel 2:44), has the absolute authority.
Jesus and his 1st-century followers believed 'Caesar' had relative authority in connection to God's absolute authority.
Just as Jesus and his followers did Not get involved in the issues of the day, even between Jews and Romans, then Jesus, as king (president) of God's kingdom government, he is already in office and my vote lies there.
 
Corvus

Corvus

Feathered eyeball connoisseur
URAVIP2ME said:
Back in the late 1700's there was a professor named Alexander Tyler who concluded a democracy can't last more than about 200 years because once people figure out how to get the money out of the treasury it causes economic collapse.
Who knows, with a bad economy the wealth the churches have amassed could look like easy taking for the political.
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He was mistaken, the Icelandic parliament the Althing, which still exists, was formed in 930 AD. Anyone who objects to democracy hates human dignity and rejects human rights. I wouldn't sack the churches but I would tax them at 50% net income.
 
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