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Praying in the Name

RoaringSilence

Active Member
did you mean this for me? or blessing?

Our Father means we all have one spiritual Father-Mother. I'm using the two genders because the ABSOLUTE is both male and female.
actually to my understanding , before i read about this flesh- word thing ..i used to think that when Jesus said my father he meant our father ..like us and Jesus are same..but i dint know this thing is intense . i understand your view completely, and i got no problem with understanding that word can become flesh. with 3D printing we make word-plastic stuff .
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
actually to my understanding , before i read about this flesh- word thing ..i used to think that when Jesus said my father he meant our father ..like us and Jesus are same..but i dint know this thing is intense . i understand your view completely, and i got no problem with understanding that word can become flesh. with 3D printing we make word-plastic stuff .


sound waves in physics create forms.


our memories are eternal, or our information/knowledge. our forms are not. the mind is boundless.

https://phys.org/news/2011-03-quantum-no-hiding-theorem-experimentally.html

einstein's theory of relativity basically says that energy and matter are the same thing but just having different states. some neuroscientists believe those manifestations are states of consciousness


E = m(c*c)

Einstein Exhibit -- Voice of Einstein
 
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RoaringSilence

Active Member
i m sort of on the same vibe as yours , how do you incorporate other beliefs with your ..how do you deal with exclusivity of Christianity.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
i m sort of on the same vibe as yours , how do you incorporate other beliefs with your ..how do you deal with exclusivity of Christianity.


at some point i realized that people may look different but they intrinsically act alike. its like fashion. it never goes out of style it just comes back slightly altered. i don't think there is anyone who doesn't wish to be loved. pretty is as pretty does. we're all actors on a stage. are we playing the part of truth?

we all struggle. i have to lay down at night with myself. i don't have to lay down with everyone else.

i found the name one day while reading the bible. i was raised christian. i try to remove every stumbling block i can to connect with others. the power to love is stronger than some people realize and love is not unique to a culture, a religion, isn't even unique to a species.

with love all things are possible.
 

RoaringSilence

Active Member
at some point i realized that people may look different but they intrinsically act alike. its like fashion. it never goes out of style it just comes back slightly altered. i don't think there is anyone who doesn't wish to be loved. pretty is as pretty does. we're all actors on a stage. are we playing the part of truth?

we all struggle. i have to lay down at night with myself. i don't have to lay down with everyone else.
so do you profess conversion to Christianity ?
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Isaiah42:8 I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.
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Isaiah59:16 And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him. Here is talking about how all the men in the Old was not good enough to be our intercessor. so his own arm brought salvation which is talking about he will become man. and be the intercessor. This sustained him. So God became man. And became our intercessor.

17 For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloke.

18 According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, fury to his adversaries, recompence to his enemies; to the islands he will repay recompence.


graven image, and god sculpted man from lump of clay
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
so do you profess conversion to Christianity ?


i'm not exclusively anything. i'm not limiting myself to learning only from one point of view. i think the comparative belief searches have helped immensely. i'm not suggesting anyone leave their original belief system. the form is not as important as the actions of a religion. we all go buy different names and different forms but our actions can be the same.

how about you?
 

RoaringSilence

Active Member
i'm not exclusively anything. i'm not limiting myself to learning only from one point of view. i think the comparative belief searches have helped immensely.

how about you?
you wouldn't believe this but i had landed the same conclusion as your about "i am", many years ago.. but i can't tell you beyond this .. coz i would be robbing you of the experience
i haven't concluded or stuck with anything yet ..just like you ..im on the move :D

the title of your post "praying in the name" is like a magnet to me ..so thank you for letting me participate.
 

RoaringSilence

Active Member
you wouldn't believe this but i had landed the same conclusion as your about "i am", many years ago.. but i can't tell you beyond this .. coz i would be robbing you of the experience
i haven't concluded or stuck with anything yet ..just like you ..im on the move :D

the title of your post "praying in the name" is like a magnet to me ..so thank you for letting me participate.
by saying this i dint imply that you have the wrong conclusion..but you have hit the same milestone.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Romans 10:17 KJVS
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

I can prove to you nothing.

If you really believe the bible has fault why beleive in it at all? Any and every belief can be taken out of the bible and can be denied.
According to you, is there no difference between what was heard and what we have now?
I believe in what was heard. YOU believe in what we have now.
 
According to you, is there no difference between what was heard and what we have now?
I believe in what was heard. YOU believe in what we have now.

I believe in the Word of God. Not everything that was said and done was written in the bible.

John21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

Yes, I believe in the what we have now it is sufficient
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I believe in the Word of God. Not everything that was said and done was written in the bible.

John21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

Yes, I believe in the what we have now it is sufficient
I believe all that what we have now is sufficient to learn what [actually, truly, and really] was heard.

Funny that even though we believe the same, we don't.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I am receiving a message.

I am going to share it.

You see the words and idols are for seeing.
I hear the words and Spirit is for hearing.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. The bible doesn't say made of it. It says made by him. Again only Adam and Eve received the breath everyone else was born.



3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

If you are not born again(because you do not have the Holy Spirit) you are going to be apart from God and not going to make it.



Not biblical at all,

Genesis1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
He did not say "And God became light" He created light



It wasn't until later he was Jesus was created.



Thomas called him LORD and God. There is only one God remember. I worship Jesus because:


22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

It says to honor the son the same as you would honor the Father. If you don not honor the Son, You do not honor the Father. I worship the Son for the glory of the Father.

There is no image. John4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. The truth is the Word of God.


interesting. you missed the obvious. you posted

All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. The bible doesn't say made of it.

without him means nothing outside of him was made. so unless you believe we some how literally exist within jesus,

this is the only part of your post I will address. it isn't worth my time to keep pointing out the obvious.
 
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