I am designing a new religion, any ideas?

Katzpur · Jul 10, 2006

Yes, I have a suggestion. You really do need a volume of scripture to clarify your doctrines. It should be at least 500 pages in length, and should contain approximately 150 words per page. Try to keep your vocabulary to fewer than 3500 words but make sure you introduce close to 180 new proper nouns. Make it a sacred and secular history covering at least a 1000 year period. Be sure not to leave any large, unaccounted for gaps of time, and have a number of interrelated local histories all going on at once. Integrate into the history, the accounts of two separate and distinct great nations, and meticulously describe their warfare, their religious beliefs, and their economic, social and political cultures and institutions. Make your cultural and technical details lavish and extensive. And make sure you've never been to any of the places you write about or use any outside research to substantiate what you have to say. Then, when people accuse you of writing a work of fiction, insist that this isn't the case. Who knows, in a couple of hundred years, a lot of what you wrote may very well be found to be accurate. You may end up making some good money off your book in the process, but I wouldn't count on it. Instead, you'll probably end being killed because other people don't happen to like what you wrote. Is creating a new religion really worth it?

PHOTOTAKER · Jul 10, 2006

Katzpur said:
Yes, I have a suggestion. You really do need a volume of scripture to clarify your doctrines. It should be at least 500 pages in length, and should contain approximately 150 words per page. Try to keep your vocabulary to fewer than 3500 words but make sure you introduce close to 180 new proper nouns. Make it a sacred and secular history covering at least a 1000 year period. Be sure not to leave any large, unaccounted for gaps of time, and have a number of interrelated local histories all going on at once. Integrate into the history, the accounts of two separate and distinct great nations, and meticulously describe their warfare, their religious beliefs, and their economic, social and political cultures and institutions. Make your cultural and technical details lavish and extensive. And make sure you've never been to any of the places you write about or use any outside research to substantiate what you have to say. Then, when people accuse you of writing a work of fiction, insist that this isn't the case. Who knows, in a couple of hundred years, a lot of what you wrote may very well be found to be accurate. You may end up making some good money off your book in the process, but I wouldn't count on it. Instead, you'll probably end being killed because other people don't happen to like what you wrote. Is creating a new religion really worth it?

and take a total of 90 days or 2160 hours to write it...

Ody · Jul 11, 2006

Lots of Pu-Tang in heaven... remember that part

royol · Jul 11, 2006

On second thoughts I think I will leave it for now, it sounds too much like hard work,
and whatever I come up with I will only be able to please a few people not everyone,
so you will all have to pick an imperfect religion until someone can get around to making a perfect one,
choose wisely mind, it could mean the difference between after-life and death.

Feathers in Hair · Jul 11, 2006

royol said:
On second thoughts I think I will leave it for now, it sounds too much like hard work,
and whatever I come up with I will only be able to please a few people not everyone,
so you will all have to pick an imperfect religion until someone can get around to making a perfect one,
choose wisely mind, it could mean the difference between after-life and death.

Well, that's... gracious of you?

I should note, though, that not everyone believes that they have the perfect religion. (I don't, and am not sure if such a thing is possible. I only know what works for me.)

Simon Gnosis · Jul 11, 2006

FeathersinHair said:
Well, that's... gracious of you?

I should note, though, that not everyone believes that they have the perfect religion. (I don't, and am not sure if such a thing is possible. I only know what works for me.)

Indeed.

Because in fact every religion is equally valid and thus equally perfect/imperfect.

There is no one true religion, for people to insist there is a one true religion is the same as saying that the millions of people who believe in competing religions are totally wrong (and as the christians might argue..doomed as well)

Such immaturity and ignorance are not attractive in a religion/faith so I would recommend that anyone creating a new religion does not start by saying their religion is the one true faith and that all others are wrong.
To unquestioningly believe anything written or spoken is sheer insanity.

That is all.

stemann · Jul 11, 2006

Please do not talk about faith like that.

Simon Gnosis · Jul 11, 2006

stemann said:
Please do not talk about faith like that.

Why not?

I attack no particular faith, I merely put across a point of view....

Katzpur · Jul 11, 2006

Simon Gnosis said:
There is no one true religion, for people to insist there is a one true religion is the same as saying that the millions of people who believe in competing religions are totally wrong (and as the christians might argue..doomed as well)

I disagree. The possibility of their being one true religion sbsolutely does not require that everyone outside of that religion be doomed (or damned, as the case may be).

stemann · Jul 11, 2006

Simon Gnosis said:
I attack no particular faith, I merely put across a point of view....

Simon Gnosis said:
To unquestioningly believe anything written or spoken is sheer insanity.

You attack all literature-based faith equally, I would have thought some people may feel offended at this. I am probably wrong.

Feathers in Hair · Jul 11, 2006

Simon Gnosis said:
Why not?

I attack no particular faith, I merely put across a point of view....

Just for clarification, there was a post that was being referred to right after your post that was removed. (So that post wasn't directed at you.)

mr.guy · Jul 11, 2006

stemann said:
...I would have thought some people may feel offended at this. I am probably wrong.

I was about to, but then became afeared.
Were it to become known how much Richard Scary books have affected my outlook on life...

stemann · Jul 11, 2006

FeathersinHair said:
Just for clarification, there was a post that was being referred to right after your post that was removed. (So that post wasn't directed at you.)

Actually, FeathersinHair, I was joining royol before s/he deleted his/her post in asking Simon Gnosis not to display such offensive (in my opinion) attitudes towards literature-based faith.

Simon Gnosis · Jul 11, 2006

stemann said:
You attack all literature-based faith equally, I would have thought some people may feel offended at this. I am probably wrong.

Well only those who interpret literally and willfuly exclude all other 'theories' ie scientific theories and other theisms or belief systems.
After all it just isn't logical to do so, it to me is akin to a surrender of will and suspension of reason.

Entirely alien to my nature.

I wish to decide for myself what I believe.

I believed England might stand a good chance of winning the world cup this year, but I was dead wrong...it was outrageous what happened this year...nvm...well done Italy....congrats.

stemann · Jul 11, 2006

Simon Gnosis said:
Well only those who interpret literally and willfuly exclude all other 'theories' ie scientific theories and other theisms or belief systems.
After all it just isn't logical to do so, it to me is akin to a surrender of will and suspension of reason.

Entirely alien to my nature.

I wish to decide for myself what I believe.

I believed England might stand a good chance of winning the world cup this year, but I was dead wrong...it was outrageous what happened this year...nvm...well done Italy....congrats.

I am forced to agree with you, and not only because your frubals : posts ratio is about a billion times higher than mine.

I believe it is illogical to accept one certain faith unquestioningly. However, I believe descriptions such as "sheer insanity" about people who do so may appear inflammatory.

Simon Gnosis · Jul 11, 2006

mr.guy said:
I was about to, but then became afeared.
Were it to become known how much Richard Scary books have affected my outlook on life...

Afeared?

If I have offended anyone please remember I am not fully used to this site's 'political' nuances and so forth quite yet thus I may overstep forum 'traditions' unwittingly.

In which case a thousand apologies offendi.....

stemann · Jul 11, 2006

mr.guy said:
I was about to, but then became afeared.
Were it to become known how much Richard Scary books have affected my outlook on life...

The worm guy??

And yeah, what does afeared mean? And why didst thou become it?

Simon Gnosis · Jul 11, 2006

stemann said:
I am forced to agree with you, and not only because your frubals : posts ratio is about a billion times higher than mine.

I believe it is illogical to accept one certain faith unquestioningly. However, I believe descriptions such as "sheer insanity" about people who do so may appear inflammatory.

Dude when people start agreeing with me I start to get worried.

Sunstone · Jul 11, 2006

Simon Gnosis said:
...I am not fully used to this site's 'political' nuances and so forth quite yet...

Please don't worry about any so called "political nuances". There are no official or enforced political points of view on the site. If you ever find a POV that's being officially enforced, PM me and we'll correct it. The main thing is to abide by the rules, which prohibit rude and insulting posts from anyone, regardless of politics, and which require you only to tithe the religion of Girls On Trampolines with frubals.

stemann · Jul 11, 2006

Sunstone said:
The main thing is to abide by the rules, which prohibit rude and insulting posts from anyone, regardless of politics, and which require you only to tithe the religion of Girls On Trampolines with frubals.

Sunstone, your Girls have taken my Trampoline. This is not Logical, Captain.

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