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Anarchist and Religious Communists Welcome

Laika

Laika

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hey comrades,

There was a thread by @Frolicking_Fox on having anarchist only subforum a while back. The Communist only subforum is for any self-identified communist. This isn't limited to Marxist-Communism but does mean Anarchist Communists and Religious Communists too. Authoritarian Marxism got all the attention in the 20th century but thats not actually representative of communism historically.

Here's a couple of examples as I realise the idea may be surprising to many:

Anarchist communism - Wikipedia

Libertarian Marxism - Wikipedia

Islamic socialism - Wikipedia

Anarchism and Islam - Wikipedia

Christian communism - Wikipedia

Christian anarchism - Wikipedia

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In Tuana Tuva there was breifly a period of offical buddhist marxism in the early 30's:

Tuvan People's Republic - Wikipedia

..and in the early soviet union an attempt was made to establish a orthodox christian communism, partly as genuine reform but also to work with the soviet state too.

Living Church - Wikipedia

"Primitive communism" and anarchist primitivism deserves an honourable mention for the indigenous and pagan religions. [In Marxism, the concept of primitive communism was developed by Engels based on studies of the Iroquois Nation.]

Primitive communism - Wikipedia

Anarcho-primitivism - Wikipedia

Theres alot of historical overlap between communists and socialists too so socialists shouldn't feel excluded from the subforum.

Anyway, just a shout out in case people were not aware of this. feel free to make yourselves at home. The more members we have in the subforum, the more active and interesting it can be. :)

Does anyone have opinions on communism's relationship with anarchism and religion? Do you think communism is synonymous with Marxism or that communists need to look outside of marxism for more humane systems?
 
Rival

Rival

se Dex me saut.
Staff member
Premium Member
Firstly, I think trying to separate Communism for Marxism is kind of a joke. The two are at least related, whilst not exactly the same. I would say Marxism is inherently atheistic, as Marx himself clarifies in The Manifesto, but one needn't stick to Marx as though he were infallible - not all of his ideas are wonderful. Marx lived in a time when religion had more sway than it has now and secularism wasn't as far as it is. This is mind, I think a religious person can be a Communist - and many religious folks are economically Socialist. We believe in helping the poor, healing the sick and feeding the hungry. We believe that people should work as one united and not sheer individualism.

IMO, anarchy is a transition state that cannot last as it is inherently unstable. Although I'm not very familiar with anarchy as a political idea so I'll let someone else to chip in and educate me on this.

In any case, my identification as a Communist will probably scare members away from this forum - so good luck @Laika! :D
 
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Laika

Laika

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Premium Member
Rival said:
Firstly, I think trying to separate Communism for Marxism is kind of a joke. The two are at least related, whilst not exactly the same. I would say Marxism is inherently atheistic, as Marx himself clarifies in The Manifesto, but one needn't stick to Marx as though he were infallible - not all of his ideas were wonderful. Marx lived in a time when religion had more sway than it has now and secularism wasn't as far as it is. This is mind, I think a religious person can be a Communist - and many religious folks are economically socialist. We believe in helping the poor, healing the sick and feeding the hungry. We believe that people should work as one united and not sheer individualism.

IMO, anarchy is a transition state that cannot last as it is inherently unstable. Although I'm not very familiar with anarchy as a political idea so I'll someone else to chip in and educate me on this.

In any case, my identification as a communist will probably scare members away from this forum, so good luck @Laika! :D
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But you're so inoffensive and responsible? How could anyone find your charming presence off-putting? Or Have you been dissolving your freinds in a vat of acid as foreplay again? ;)

Forms of Marxism directly related to dialectical materialism are inherently atheistic and the sources couldn't really be more explicit honestly.

Nikolai Bukharin and Evgenii Preobrazhensky: The ABC of Communism - Chapter XI : Communism and Religion

Certian *cough* heretical forms of Marxism which treat it as only a political and not a philosophical belief have used religion in the past and reflects deeper divisions in the movement.

Marxism and religion - Wikipedia

I think the god-builders are very cool personally. It appeals to my inner nietzsche. :)

God-Building - Wikipedia
 
Rival

Rival

se Dex me saut.
Staff member
Premium Member
Laika said:
But you're so inoffensive and responsible? How could anyone find your charming presence off-putting? Or Have you been dissolving your freinds in a vat of acid as foreplay again? ;)
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Nah, I've been sending them to gulag. Look, here I am:

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