Is God the sum of Zero?

With our expanded understanding of the universe science purposes a universe which has an energy total sum of zero. It is quite a remarkable thought that everything around us could be a product of essentially nothing. This type of theology ties nicely with the Taoist philosophy that all existence would be a perfect balance of positive and negative energy.

So if this is true of the universe would this also make God a total sum of zero. I kinda get the idea that god would be at least just above zero which would explain why there is existence rather than non-existence which would make god more than just the universe but a positive energy that permeates the universe keeping existence from not existing.

Just some of my random musings.

Dunno about God, but the universe may well be.

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I don't think god can be definitively described within axiomatic systems, only alluded to.

There's a spokesperson in the Neopagan community - I think it was T. Thorn Coyle, but don't hold me to that - who speaks of the divine as being "The Great Zero." Your post reminded me of that.

idav said:

With our expanded understanding of the universe science purposes a universe which has an energy total sum of zero. It is quite a remarkable thought that everything around us could be a product of essentially nothing. This type of theology ties nicely with the Taoist philosophy that all existence would be a perfect balance of positive and negative energy.

So if this is true of the universe would this also make God a total sum of zero. I kinda get the idea that god would be at least just above zero which would explain why there is existence rather than non-existence which would make god more than just the universe but a positive energy that permeates the universe keeping existence from not existing.

Just some of my random musings.

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I can agree with this, because zero is also a product of itself.

Existent and nonexistent dichotomy. God is a coin, of all things

idav said:

With our expanded understanding of the universe science purposes a universe which has an energy total sum of zero. It is quite a remarkable thought that everything around us could be a product of essentially nothing. This type of theology ties nicely with the Taoist philosophy that all existence would be a perfect balance of positive and negative energy.

So if this is true of the universe would this also make God a total sum of zero. I kinda get the idea that god would be at least just above zero which would explain why there is existence rather than non-existence which would make god more than just the universe but a positive energy that permeates the universe keeping existence from not existing.

Just some of my random musings.

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The latest noteworthy theories coming from the physics community revolve around the discovery of gravitational waves from the big bang era. These waves were
sent moving at the time the differences of densities of the cosmic microwave background took form which is very very early on. The universe was very near uniform
but it was not entirely uniform then. I would say the universe is not at zero for energy but very near that number. If inflation is correct something had to pump energy
into our universe system at the very beginning or else it would not have exponentially grew in size so rapidly. Without some unbalance of energy cosmic structures
would likely not have formed at all. Here, we also see that antimatter and regular matter were not equal because if they were nothing would have formed because these two energies in contact annihilate each other but we find more matter than anti-matter now. So again there is some energy just above zero.

Prana Pastime said:

The latest noteworthy theories coming from the physics community revolve around the discovery of gravitational waves from the big bang era. These waves were
sent moving at the time the differences of densities of the cosmic microwave background took form which is very very early on. The universe was very near uniform
but it was not entirely uniform then. I would say the universe is not at zero for energy but very near that number. If inflation is correct something had to pump energy
into our universe system at the very beginning or else it would not have exponentially grew in size so rapidly. Without some unbalance of energy cosmic structures
would likely not have formed at all. Here, we also see that antimatter and regular matter were not equal because if they were nothing would have formed because these two energies in contact annihilate each other but we find more matter than anti-matter now. So again there is some energy just above zero.

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Cool, well the physicists have clever ways of figuring all that and data keeps confirming this zero energy. Otherwise the shape and ultimate fate of the universe changes. It will expand too fast to the point of ripping itself apart or not fast enough and go into a Big Crunch. With the data I read the universe will simply expand until a cold death hundreds of trillions of years from now.

GOD = ! XU = NGX = -1/0/+1 = life

The first men of men the aincent San of southern africa believed in the eternal spirit !xu
This spirit manifested itself within the ngx or spirit with in all of creation through its expressions of life in all its forms
This fundamental bacis of beliefs formed the basic beliefs of all subsequent belief systems in the aincent beliefs that every (IOTA) contained a soul and established the base foundation upon which animistic/animism / and all religious beliefs are founded
Inclusive of every subsequent religious systems including devisive fundamentalist dogmas devideing our understandings
In order to understand one needs to begin with the beginning the philosophical definatives of these aincent peoples dating back 75000 years

Hermes trigamestre said qoute: " "everything is in everything "

Prana Pastime said:

The latest noteworthy theories coming from the physics community revolve around the discovery of gravitational waves from the big bang era. These waves were
sent moving at the time the differences of densities of the cosmic microwave background took form which is very very early on. The universe was very near uniform
but it was not entirely uniform then. I would say the universe is not at zero for energy but very near that number. If inflation is correct something had to pump energy
into our universe system at the very beginning or else it would not have exponentially grew in size so rapidly. Without some unbalance of energy cosmic structures
would likely not have formed at all. Here, we also see that antimatter and regular matter were not equal because if they were nothing would have formed because these two energies in contact annihilate each other but we find more matter than anti-matter now. So again there is some energy just above zero.

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I like this theory since I once had a vision where I was allowed to ask the question: Where does everything I know, feel and see originate from? The angels around me agreed to grand me an answer to that question and the 'door' to the 'Creator' was opened (or at least they made me 'see' that 'picture'). I couldn't see who or what was in the space behind the door but a voice told me (after hearing the words "and all voices now speak as one"). I have created your Univers by 1 string of my hair, you can use it for as long as you want and don't worry about my hairstring, I will grow one back. Following that vision our Univers will probably weigh as much as a hairstring.

yes, it could be.

idav said:

With our expanded understanding of the universe science purposes a universe which has an energy total sum of zero. It is quite a remarkable thought that everything around us could be a product of essentially nothing. This type of theology ties nicely with the Taoist philosophy that all existence would be a perfect balance of positive and negative energy.

So if this is true of the universe would this also make God a total sum of zero. I kinda get the idea that god would be at least just above zero which would explain why there is existence rather than non-existence which would make god more than just the universe but a positive energy that permeates the universe keeping existence from not existing.

Just some of my random musings.

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Is God the sum of zero.

the summation of 2 variables or fixed numbers or any combination of the two...

Is God the summation of 2 variables or fixed numbers or any combination of the two?


Is God the 'result' of 2 variables or fixed 'number' or any combination of the two?


What would examples of possible variables and/or fixed number(s) be?

So let's take: God = -1/2 + 1/2 = 0

In other words, God equals, is the 'sum' of, -1/2 and +1/2 which is zero (0)

or the sum of -1 and 2 added to the sum of 1 and 2.

The sum of -1 and 2 and the sum of 1 and 2.

The sum of -1 and 2 = 1
and the sum of 1 and 2 = 3
which would mean that God could be the sum of 1 and 3, being 4.


But does God need an additional 1 outside of Their 3 to be God?

Since God IS Love, without an additional 1 to Their 3, to whom can He Love if there was only 3?

But is God the summation or is God only God of this Earth only?

But philosophically, God would probably have 'others' to Love so He can freely 'enjoy' His Own Life, which is to Love. But required?


If we were to take the sum of -1 and -2 added to the sum of 1 and 2, we would have: -3 and 3 or 0.


But how would God be a sum of 2 negative fixed or variables? Where is the negative one and the negative 2 coming from?


The 1 negative was 'taken cared' of by The LORD God.

But from where did the second negative come from which might be unbeknownst of by The LORD God, if there is any?

Because since The LORD God sent His Only Begotten Son for the World, mankind in the World should also know what this 'new' negative might be so as to correctly apply The Word to be/remain away from this 'new negative' if there is any.


The first negative: -1, is Genesis to Revelation.

But what is the second negative: -2?

But because we are not beyond Revelation, this cannot apply or be true.

So the first, (-1) + 2, + (1 + 2) = (1+3)=4, would be more applicable to the world and to life on Earth in today's time, pre Revelation 'end'.


And since God IS Love, the 3, The Holy Trinity (God, The Father and (J)esus Christ), would or might 'need/desire' a fourth to share Their Love with.

But is God the sum of this? Does God require a 4th to be God?


Then why must Adam have 'needed' a helper/help mate if God requires another 1 but not 2? A couple is as 1. Could God be God with only 1 Couple to be God?


And this is where the 'in Our Image' written of in Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:..." comes in.


Did God 'need' to: "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." - Genesis 1:1


[3:59]

The likeness of Jesus in God's sight is that of Adam: He created him from dust, then said to him, "Be," and he was.

- Holy Qur'an


What or Who IS 'holy'?

Leviticus 11:44 "For I am the LORD your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I am holy: neither shall ye defile yourselves with any manner of creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."

Leviticus 11:45 "For I am the LORD that bringeth you up out of the land of Egypt, to be your God: ye shall therefore be holy, for I am holy."


[3:49]

A messenger to the Children of Israel: "I have come to you with a sign from your Lord. I make for you out of clay the figure of a bird; then I breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by God's leave. And I heal the blind and the leprous, and I revive the dead, by God's leave. And I inform you concerning what you eat, and what you store in your homes. In that is a sign for you, if you are believers."

- Holy Qur'an



There is God who can do and be as 1 independently
There is The LORD who can do and be as 1 indenpendently
There is The LORD God who can do an be as 2 together
There is 'I Am', which can be The LORD God who does and IS as 2 together, or 'I Am' who can be each, independently, or as 'together'.


John 8:58 "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am."


before Abraham was, 'He' was.


John 1:15 "John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me."

John 1:27 "He it is, who coming after me is preferred before me, whose shoe's latchet I am not worthy to unloose."

John 1:30 "This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me."