Nope, just telling you what Paul said. I got no problem waiting till the fire and brimstone starts dropping. I like lightning storms, fire and brimstone should be quite a show.
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Nope, just telling you what Paul said. I got no problem waiting till the fire and brimstone starts dropping. I like lightning storms, fire and brimstone should be quite a show.
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Beware
When in doubt, resort to the fire and brimstone.
Always a fun way to end it.
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
How I see gods/spirits (can't speak for Pagans) is that there is no "head of the family."
For example, parenting in different countries differ than here in America.
Parents in countries from Greece to Spain to India to Italy, believe that children are best off when others help raise them—the extended family, friends or community. In Brazil, for example, it is not uncommon for several generations of a family—parents, grandparents, siblings, cousins—to live together in separate but adjoining homes or on separate floors of the same home. Brazilian culture puts a high premium on extended family ties. This makes it easier for parents to tap into “the village” to help raise their children. Parenting Styles
Spirits (souls of the deceased and environment) are a family. They all take care of us so "head of the family" is really an ego thing. People have different roles we take up but no one is an authority over another person.
I see no sense in one god. That makes me think of communism for some reason. Back in the Roman days. Conquer and conquest.
Cultural religions like Pagan ones aren't like that when people get along. But in this case, even making a comment on this thread is like a christian going onto Indian property to colonize them into their way of thinking and quoting scripture as if they will take what you say as an authority rather than finding a common criteria to judge whether what you are saying makes sense to both parties not just yourself. I know, run on.
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
That's like my saying, "don't worry. I just quoted my aunt sara's favorite lesson that I learned from and my mother learned from.... by the way though, if you don't heed her lesson, you're going to have to sit in the corner." (Since aunt sara feels even adults should sit in the corner).
Does this make any sense to you?
How does my aunt's lesson apply to you and if you don't heed her message, why would you think twice about the punishment when she doesn't even know you?
Quite likely, yes. But look what Turkey has just done -- a very tiny majority has, based mostly on ignorance and fear(instilled, for a reason, by the leader) -- voted it's own freedoms out of existence. One day, no doubt, they'll get it. But it's a bit late for that, isn't it? And there have been many examples throughout history. After all, Hitler was elected. Many tyrants get in "legitimately," then turn the machinery of government to help them achieve their own -- not their nations' -- ends. See Vladimir Putin -- and in the not-too-distant future, see Donald Trump. He gets how it's done.
As do I! I have myself voted for avowed Christians over (suspect) secularists (I voted for Robert Stanfield over Pierre Trudeau sometime in the last third of the last century), based on what I perceived to be their ideas and their values. I've known many Christians, and Muslims, Jews, Sikhs, Hindus and others whose values, opinions and lives I've honoured.
And I've known some atheists that I would help you throw to the wolves (if, of course, I believed in throwing anybody to the wolves).
Exactly what I've been saying. At the end of the day, to ourselves we are who we imagine ourselves to be. But to everybody else, we are what our actions make us seem to be.
VioletVortex
Well-Known Member
Hails to Greece! That's ****ing awesome. I'm glad that irony has been destroyed...a country not recognizing its own religion...
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
The spirits told me directly. I don't have a prophet-faith and no intermediary to the spirits. We are all one happy family.
I never understood any christian who quotes the bible to those who do not believe in it as if they (as yourself) are quoting a fact that we are somehow not aware of. Makes me tilt my head thinking "do they really know what they are doing?" or has it been done so often that it became a christian-thing to do? Culture related. Have no clue.
But life doesn't work in singles. There is always multiples. Each Pagan will describe it differently, though.
Weird. Its like saying "there is a man in front of me who knows another man in another room without a key." Then I ask, "where is this man..." and you quote things about the man as if what is written will make a man just pop up in front of me.
I find that kind of silly. There's got to be a way that both you and the other party can make sense of the criteria we are judging fact and fiction on, and then we can discuss whose right or wrong or so have you.
But, anyway, there are more than one god to many Pagans and it's nice to have one of their gods getting recognition and permission to worship.
Why post a reply when you disagree with it so much to not even post a positive congrads?
I swear, you Christians have been claiming the end is nigh since Rome decided to play "Pin the tail on the Carpenter".
Just as the gathering of vultures shows there is a carcass nearby, so these signs indicate that the end is near.
The Kilted Heathen
Crow FreyjasmaðR
Did you just compare christians to vultures?
I mean, he's not wrong..
ZooGirl02
Well-Known Member
I am saddened by this. But then again, I am not surprised at the increase in Pagan religions seeing the times we are living in. We get closer and closer to the last days the longer time goes on.
Now, please don't get me wrong. I am all for freedom of religion but this saddens me because it shows that belief in Paganism is increasing and everyone knows that Christianity has been in decline in Europe for a long time.
Now, please don't get me wrong. I am all for freedom of religion but this saddens me because it shows that belief in Paganism is increasing and everyone knows that Christianity has been in decline in Europe for a long time.
The Kilted Heathen
Crow FreyjasmaðR
For freedom of religion
Saddened by freedom of religion
Contradictions abound.
Saddened by freedom of religion
Contradictions abound.
jonathan180iq
Well-Known Member
Which signs?
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
Roman Catholicism is part Pagan religion. There are practices from the Romans and native to the Romans (aka Roman Paganism) are part of Christian interpretation of Judaism via the apostles and the popes after.
To have a deceased or take out Paganism entirely, is basically taking out the Roman teachings of Catholicism among other things.
Why would you be sadden about someone having a freedom of religion when you are all for it?
Truly, it boggles the mind.
And yet, given that religious intolerance was in many respects invented by monotheistic traditions with their exclusivist "my god or bust" philosophies, some who still cling to that exclusivism do not want freedom of religion and thus there is no contradiction. The exclusivist monotheists just want everyone to follow their One True Path and rescue us sorry Pagans (or Buddhists or atheists or anyone who isn't on the Right Path) from eternal damnation. Or something. I don't get it, honestly. Gives me an idea for a thread...
