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Pulling over before cop sirens turn on

Valjean

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Nous said:
Wow. Would you mind explaining why you spent 3 days in jail?
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Was driving at night on a two lane rural highway. I rounded a corner and there was a sheriff's car stopped right in the middle of the road for some reason. I had to swerve into the other lane to avoid it.
Several miles farther down the road I had to pee, so I pulled over to the side of the road. Turns out the Sheriff was right behind me and was pissed off, claiming I'd nearly hit him and was driving irregularly. He arrested me for drunk driving and delivered me to a jail in Reno.
I couldn't bond out, the sheriff had taken my wallet and I had no idea where it was. If I had got out I would have been hundreds of miles from home with no money, transportation or ID anyway.
The Drunk driving charge didn't hold up, and a judge finally released me, saying I was being unfairly detained because had no local ties and no way to bond out.
Next chapter: A week hitchhiking around looking for my wallet and van.
 
Curious George

Curious George

Veteran Member
Nous said:
Police officers are given the extra deference in their actions because we ask them to be in these inherently dangerous and tense situations for our protection. They have to make life or death decisions on the spot, and I guarantee it is extremely rare that any police officer wants to shoot someone.
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While I understand the reasoning for both deferential and preferential treatment of police, I did not say whether it was warranted or not. The consequences however of delivering such treatment is abuse. If you think some officers have not taken advantage or benefitted unjustly because of this then you are fantasizing. Now, whether the level of abuse outweighs the benefit of enabling other officers do better do their job, protect the public, and sacrifice themselves....well I would have to do more research.

Plenty of people can put forth the reasoning you have. Plenty of judges have. But that doesn't mean it is either necessary or the most effective method in all cases.
 
meghanwaterlillies

meghanwaterlillies

Well-Known Member
serp777 said:
So I was wondering, if you see a cop behind you and you think that their sirens are about to turn on, can you pull over before this happens and park to avoid having to deal with the police?

Is it possible for a cop to still give you a traffic ticket even though you're already parked and out of the car?
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Ingledsva said:
I already did.

Police now have military like powers.

People whom have no weapons are being killed.

People whom have done absolutely nothing wrong, - are in fear of being pulled over by the police, and being killed.

People arrested for filming police actions.

Error in gung-ho military style police actions. I know a couple whose home was wrongly attacked by police. They broke down the door, in the middle of the night, dressed in solid black, and surrounded them with assault weapons. They forced them out of bed NAKED, and would not allow them to cover themselves. They said the police kept threatening with the assault weapons, and screaming that he was someone else. They were terrorized by the police.

I don't know if you are watching any of the police TV shows lately - but they are showing up in this military attack mode for weed charges, and even unpaid child support.

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serp777 said:
So I was wondering, if you see a cop behind you and you think that their sirens are about to turn on, can you pull over before this happens and park to avoid having to deal with the police?

Is it possible for a cop to still give you a traffic ticket even though you're already parked and out of the car?
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I don't really think so I mean how was he following you with that 5 second rule. He still might give you a ticket and as long as they don't try sell dry. Which is out sourcing information because the county over did it.
 
meghanwaterlillies

meghanwaterlillies

Well-Known Member
serp777 said:
So I was wondering, if you see a cop behind you and you think that their sirens are about to turn on, can you pull over before this happens and park to avoid having to deal with the police?

Is it possible for a cop to still give you a traffic ticket even though you're already parked and out of the car?
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I don't think people should get 19 years for something small, saw that the other day. Number one, that's why it's better to take the ticket. I recall scammers calling to collect on tickets in vegas because they had become so overwhelmed that they couldn't keep track of it. There were a lot of different people legal and not and you couldn't keep track of it. So then they posted shows of like dog the bounty hunter, well sales picked it up, they just said oh well its public information, many were scams.
That's why I don't like phones.
Number two the sales across from my house also started a supposed breast cancer fund. Well after working there for a while met the man up stairs and they only gave 1 percent or something really small like that to breast cancer research. Left immediately.
Worked for a tow company once too. Just like blunder after blunder.
 
psychoslice

psychoslice

Veteran Member
Bob the Unbeliever said:
Oh, I got that already. The 'I don't care because it doesn't affect me' is part of the problem..


First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

~ Martin Niemöller (1892–1984)
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I have heard that before, I can only go by my own experience with Australian police, of course there is always going to be rotten apples that spoil the crop, but that goes with everything, the police are just as human as everyone else, and yes there will always be the bad ones.
 
Ingledsva

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
Nous said:
A person does not need to have a "weapon" (other than his body) in order to pose a threat of serious bodily harm to the officer or to others. Michael Brown is a perfect example. He penned the officer in his seat in his car, assaulted him and grabbed his weapon.

The Court has not altered the objective reasonableness standard for an officer's use of deadly force, as established in the 1980s in Garner v. Tennessee and Graham v. Connor. These provisions are part of every state statute relating to use of deadly force by a police officer.

Cite the cases your talking about.
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In the Michael Brown case that is the "story" given. And even if he did grab for the gun, - he obviously didn't get it, - and was killed anyway, - far from the car - unarmed.

Cite cases? That's bull! You watch the news.

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Ingledsva

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
psychoslice said:
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The problem there is that it is one sided. We could come up with a different scenario -

We could use the cop's words, saying he thought the two fit the description of the cigar thieves, so he blocked them with his car.

I'm guessing he then tried to pull his gun, - and Brown tried to stop himself from getting shot.

He did not get the gun - obviously.

The cop killed him far from the car, - and unarmed.

Teenagers aren't usually killed for stealing some cigars, - unless they have dark skin!

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psychoslice

psychoslice

Veteran Member
Ingledsva said:
The problem there is that it is one sided. We could come up with a different scenario -

We could use the cop's words, saying he thought the two fit the description of the cigar thieves, so he blocked them with his car.

I'm guessing he then tried to pull his gun, - and Brown tried to stop himself from getting shot.

He did not get the gun - obviously.

The cop killed him far from the car, - and unarmed.

Teenagers aren't usually killed for stealing some cigars, - unless they have dark skin!

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hes was certainly no angel, and was in trouble all the time, just by that I would have to say that there would be a good chance that he was in the wrong, if a cop points a gun at you you don't run towards him, bloody hell anyone with sense would know that. so yes I believe it wasn't anything to do with skin color.
 
Ingledsva

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
psychoslice said:
hes was certainly no angel, and was in trouble all the time, just by that I would have to say that there would be a good chance that he was in the wrong, if a cop points a gun at you you don't run towards him, bloody hell anyone with sense would know that. so yes I believe it wasn't anything to do with skin color.
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Of course he did wrong, - so do a lot of white teenagers, - however - it is the dark teens that end up dead.

And as you can see from my picture, - that is coming from a very pale white person.

Even I no longer trust police. Their new powers scare me.

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psychoslice

psychoslice

Veteran Member
Ingledsva said:
Of course he did wrong, - so do a lot of white teenagers, - however - it is the dark teens that end up dead.

And as you can see from my picture, - that is coming from a very pale white person.

Even I no longer trust police. Their new powers scare me.

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So white police should never shoot blacks, but they can shoot whites ?.
 
psychoslice

psychoslice

Veteran Member
Ingledsva said:
Of course he did wrong, - so do a lot of white teenagers, - however - it is the dark teens that end up dead.

And as you can see from my picture, - that is coming from a very pale white person.

Even I no longer trust police. Their new powers scare me.

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Warning swearing.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Valjean said:
Was driving at night on a two lane rural highway. I rounded a corner and there was a sheriff's car stopped right in the middle of the road for some reason. I had to swerve into the other lane to avoid it.
Several miles farther down the road I had to pee, so I pulled over to the side of the road. Turns out the Sheriff was right behind me and was pissed off, claiming I'd nearly hit him and was driving irregularly. He arrested me for drunk driving and delivered me to a jail in Reno.
I couldn't bond out, the sheriff had taken my wallet and I had no idea where it was. If I had got out I would have been hundreds of miles from home with no money, transportation or ID anyway.
The Drunk driving charge didn't hold up, and a judge finally released me, saying I was being unfairly detained because had no local ties and no way to bond out.
Next chapter: A week hitchhiking around looking for my wallet and van.
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Bummer, man.
Some cops should be in prison.
 
Ingledsva

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
psychoslice said:
So white police should never shoot blacks, but they can shoot whites ?.
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We are not talking about cops killing criminals when they have to, either black or white.

We are talking about the predominance of dark skinned people being killed, for the same crimes committed by white people, - whom are not killed.

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psychoslice

psychoslice

Veteran Member
Ingledsva said:
We are not talking about cops killing criminals when they have to, either black or white.

We are talking about the predominance of dark skinned people being killed, for the same crimes committed by white people, - whom are not killed.

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Yes I see, I don't know if that is true or not so I cannot say anything.
 
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freethinker44

Well-Known Member
serp777 said:
So I was wondering, if you see a cop behind you and you think that their sirens are about to turn on, can you pull over before this happens and park to avoid having to deal with the police?

Is it possible for a cop to still give you a traffic ticket even though you're already parked and out of the car?
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The driver in this video says yes, they can. And then they will shoot you.

 
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