Alright maybe some hope

Solar power is the cheapest form of energy on the planet and many governments and people are signing up. Yes the battery is inconvenient for some people. Maybe, despite the fact that most people don't care and will buy new deregulated products, greed will also get enough people into solar!

Never mind... solar power is only cheapest among renewables! Keep dwindling in despair.

Even if it was cheapest overall, so long as the politicians are in the pockets of the oil companies, it wouldn't matter. Sad as it is.

Quetzal said:

Even if it was cheapest overall, so long as the politicians are in the pockets of the oil companies, it wouldn't matter. Sad as it is.

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You're wrong.
If solar were really cheaper than burning fossil fuels, utilities would make the switch.
Solar also has the problem of poor performance at night. And economic benefit also
varies with geography. But don't worry......free markets, improving technology, &
good old fashioned greed will bring it over time.

Btw, I'm using solar powered batter maintainers & desulphators now on mobile
equipment. It's not to save money on electricity....it's convenient & saves money
on battery problems.

Revoltingest said:

If solar were really cheaper than burning fossil fuels, utilities would make the switch.

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If oil companies control what technologies we invest in its a losing battle.

How many people are not keeping up with developments in the energy sector. It's sad. But it's a great money making opportunity for me to use actual real facts rather than opinions to invest.

Just a bit of data for those that care about facts, if any do

The Price of Solar Is Declining to Unprecedented Lows

And the storage battery installation is only economical in selected places so far, but the trend is just picking up steam https://www.greentechmedia.com/arti...y-heavy-battery-behind-new-kauai-solar-peaker

And it's a great source of well paying jobs as well Solar Jobs Up, Coal Jobs Down in Ohio, West Virginia | News, Sports, Jobs - The Intelligencer

sunrise123 said:

How many people are not keeping up with developments in the energy sector. It's sad. But it's a great money making opportunity for me to use actual real facts rather than opinions to invest.

Just a bit of data for those that care about facts, if any do

The Price of Solar Is Declining to Unprecedented Lows

And the storage battery installation is only economical in selected places so far, but the trend is just picking up steam https://www.greentechmedia.com/arti...y-heavy-battery-behind-new-kauai-solar-peaker

And it's a great source of well paying jobs as well Solar Jobs Up, Coal Jobs Down in Ohio, West Virginia | News, Sports, Jobs - The Intelligencer

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I know that solar is getting cheaper as we are able to print it on paper. Doesn't take much investment in solar to get it going. I see those businesses coming up around town and a small town near here is striving on solar, its taking a lot of strides.

idav said:

If oil companies control what technologies we invest in its a losing battle.

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They don't.
There's a fundamental problem with such conspiracy theories.....
Suppose there's some great technology which would lessen demand for fossil fuels.
Let's say it's a materials advance resulting in the "adiabatic IC engine", aka "AICE".
The oil companies would try to suppress AICE in countries where they have influence.
But in scientifically advanced countries where they don't rule (eg, PRC), AICE would
be invented or stolen. After arising there, the cat would be out of the bag.

The same thing has been claimed for magical devices like the engine that runs on
water. But the proof of its impossibility lies in more than debunked thermodynamics
& chemistry....it's also in the fact that China would have good reason to steal it &
use it to clean up their air (which now matters to them).

If Big Oil suppressed fuel saving technologies, then why haven't they scuttled other
such ones, eg, Atkinson cycle valving, computer controlled valve actuation, hybrid
electric drive, computer transmission controls, infinitely variable transmissions,
computer engine controls, non-diesel cycle compression ignition? Fuel economy
for super duty pickup trucks is now as good as my son's little Subaru car.
Big Oil is pretty lousy at maintaining their conspiracy, eh.

What did the OP even attempt to say? It seems to have chocked on its own attempt at sarcasm.

This reads like an ad for Tesla battery storage but it's a great illustration of a new business that is taking off. Tesla's massive batteries are powering everything from exotic islands to breweries

LuisDantas said:

What did the OP even attempt to say? It seems to have chocked on its own attempt at sarcasm.

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It seems you missed the second post.

No, I did not.