The Most Honest and Compelling Immigration Video on the Internet!

Valjean said:

Good point, Buddhist. There's moral responsibility too. If you're the cause of problems so egregious that people are forced to abandon everything they know and emmigrate, I'd think you'd owe them a little help.

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Stevicus said:

Having followed the immigration debate for the past few decades in various incarnations, I've observed that there's very little "middle ground" between the pro-immigration and anti-immigration viewpoints. Those who are pro-immigration only point out the positives of immigration, and they won't hear or entertain any arguments which might suggest any negatives. The anti-immigration activists are just the opposite in that they'll only point out the negatives.

The arguments also seem to come from different directions and vantage points. In the USA, a lot of the pro-immigration sentiment seems to be based mostly on tradition, that America is a land of immigrants and this historical fact gives us a moral obligation to accept and accommodate immigrants from other lands. This particular argument doesn't really seem to apply to other nations.

Then there are countries like Mexico which expect and demand open immigration to the US, but do not give similar consideration to immigrants to their own countries.

The trouble really seems to stem from the fact that immigration is, in fact, a global issue, yet each country has its own individual policies and attitudes regarding immigration. Some people of a more globalist perspective think that one day, national boundaries will no longer exist, and people will move from country to country just as people move between states in the US today. I don't know if that will ever come to pass, though. A lot of far-reaching changes would have to be made on an international level before that could ever happen.

Until then, there will likely be resistance to immigration wherever it occurs. There will probably also be stronger pressures to assimilate. Many may be accepting of immigrants, but only on the condition that they learn the language and adopt the culture of the country they're immigrating to. It's in this area which I think is troubling to some people. They're okay with immigration and cultural diversity to some degree, but only in measured amounts. If it seems as if one culture is totally displacing another, then this is when it starts to get tense. These are the things we need to keep a better eye on.

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icehorse said:

I didn't like the intro.

The video itself was very informative.

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Valjean said:

I suppose if you're a paranoid, xenophobic, white nationalist it makes sense.

Here's another video you might like:

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idav said:

I wouldn't compare immigration and Islam to a sword. That's starts with a false premise to assume people fleeing countries want to destroy western culture. Often people who flee from a country appreciate and want democracy.

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Augustus said:

A "white genocide" intro followed by a talk that makes the pointlessly obvious argument 'immigration into the US doesn't solve global poverty'.

I found it very dull and not in any way informative (I did have to skip through it a bit because it was very dull indeed)

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metis said:

Comparative stats on crime indicate the immigrants, including those here illegally, actually commit fewer crimes than home-spun Americans, so maybe "Anglos" should be deported?

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metis said:

And I agree as well.

What's "weird" here is that there's a far better and less costly solution to "the Wall", and that is to issue heavy fines and prison time (fines may not be enough) to those employers who knowingly hire illegal aliens.

So, why don't we do that? Answer, imo: $ and the need for such laborers as so many benefit from having them here, including farmers, businesses, and the American consumer. Therefore getting rid of 10+ million immigrants would be financially disastrous.

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psychoslice said:

But why add to the crime rate by allowing more people into the country, just coming into the country illegally is a crime.

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metis said:

Since their rate is much lower than that of the "Anglos", the overall rate thus is also lower.

And, according to the conservative Cato Institute, they estimate that chances of you getting killed by a Syrian refugee in a given year is 1 in 3.6 billion.

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