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Why westren christians Reject the word 'Allah'?

maj123

Member
Hello members,
In one article I have read the following:
" If the Arab hordes which swept over the ancient world were not Christians or Jews, then what were they? They were pagans who worshipped a pagan god called Allah and followed pagan rites which were practiced in Arabia long before the religion of Islam evolved.."
So I think that every christian should know this fact concerning Allah,

Often one hears the Arabic word “Allah” being used in discussions regarding Islam. The word “Allah” is simply the Arabic word for Almighty God, and is the same word used by Arabic speaking Christians and Jews. As a matter of fact, the word Allah was in use far before the word God ever came into existence, since English is a relatively new language. If one were to pick up an Arabic translation of the Bible, one would see the word “Allah” being used where the word “God” is used in English. For instance, Arabic speaking Christians say that Jesus is the Son of Allah.

In addition, the Arabic word for God, “Allah”, is quite similar to the word for God in other Semitic languages. For example, the Hebrew word for God is “Elah”. For various reasons, some Christians and Jews mistakenly believe that muslims worship a different God.
I hope this would be useful for narrowing the gap between eastren Christians and westren Christians.
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Hello members,
In one article I have read the following:
" If the Arab hordes which swept over the ancient world were not Christians or Jews, then what were they? They were pagans who worshipped a pagan god called Allah and followed pagan rites which were practiced in Arabia long before the religion of Islam evolved.."
So I think that every christian should know this fact concerning Allah,

Often one hears the Arabic word “Allah” being used in discussions regarding Islam. The word “Allah” is simply the Arabic word for Almighty God, and is the same word used by Arabic speaking Christians and Jews. As a matter of fact, the word Allah was in use far before the word God ever came into existence, since English is a relatively new language. If one were to pick up an Arabic translation of the Bible, one would see the word “Allah” being used where the word “God” is used in English. For instance, Arabic speaking Christians say that Jesus is the Son of Allah.

In addition, the Arabic word for God, “Allah”, is quite similar to the word for God in other Semitic languages. For example, the Hebrew word for God is “Elah”. For various reasons, some Christians and Jews mistakenly believe that muslims worship a different God.
I hope this would be useful for narrowing the gap between eastren Christians and westren Christians.

I think that is a legit reasoning. If Allah means God the Father, and they Call Christ the Son of God, that is Christianity. MY question is where are they getting their information about Jesus? Because to know the Father is to know the Son, if they have bad information about the Son, and they do not worship God the Father based on accurate insight into the nature of God the Son, so they would not be worshipping God the Father at all. Correct? Jesus said you know the Father by observing Jesus' good works.
 

Tumah

Veteran Member
For example, the Hebrew word for God is “Elah”.
Let's be a little more factual. All-h is a contraction of al-Ilah (first letter is an i), meaning 'the G-d'. Arabic descends from Aramaic and one of the Aramaic words for G-d is Ela-hh. Ignoring the diacritics, its spelled the same way the Arabic word 'ilah' is spelled: alif - lam - ha.
In Hebrew the counterpart is Elo-ah (with an additional waw after the lam), although in the singular its only found a handful of times.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
this is the Christianity DIR, Buddhist and Tumah
 

Brickjectivity

Turned to Stone. Now I stretch daily.
Staff member
Premium Member
Hello members,
In one article I have read the following:
" If the Arab hordes which swept over the ancient world were not Christians or Jews, then what were they? They were pagans who worshipped a pagan god called Allah and followed pagan rites which were practiced in Arabia long before the religion of Islam evolved.."
So I think that every christian should know this fact concerning Allah,

Often one hears the Arabic word “Allah” being used in discussions regarding Islam. The word “Allah” is simply the Arabic word for Almighty God, and is the same word used by Arabic speaking Christians and Jews. As a matter of fact, the word Allah was in use far before the word God ever came into existence, since English is a relatively new language. If one were to pick up an Arabic translation of the Bible, one would see the word “Allah” being used where the word “God” is used in English. For instance, Arabic speaking Christians say that Jesus is the Son of Allah.

In addition, the Arabic word for God, “Allah”, is quite similar to the word for God in other Semitic languages. For example, the Hebrew word for God is “Elah”. For various reasons, some Christians and Jews mistakenly believe that muslims worship a different God.
I hope this would be useful for narrowing the gap between eastren Christians and westren Christians.
'Allah' is part of their nadsat which makes you feel like one of them. Nadsats have power to emotionally exclude and include. To become a Muslim you don't just believe things but must act Muslim and adopt Muslim values and idioms such as using 'Allah' instead of 'God' in prayers. Arabic according to Muslims is the language of Allah, the true language of angels above other languages. They believe the language is superior and that those who speak it are better off. In Muslim society those who master Arabic are considered better than those who speak it poorly. It is not merely just another language to them, so having you say 'Allah' instead of God is to them a way of improving you. Accepting their terminology is somehow encouraging them.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
its because they speak Arabic, and God in Arabic is Allah, they don't probably speak English so why the heck would hey say God instead of Allah.
 

maj123

Member
Hello members,
In one article I have read the following:
" If the Arab hordes which swept over the ancient world were not Christians or Jews, then what were they? They were pagans who worshipped a pagan god called Allah and followed pagan rites which were practiced in Arabia long before the religion of Islam evolved.."
So I think that every christian should know this fact concerning Allah,

Often one hears the Arabic word “Allah” being used in discussions regarding Islam. The word “Allah” is simply the Arabic word for Almighty God, and is the same word used by Arabic speaking Christians and Jews. As a matter of fact, the word Allah was in use far before the word God ever came into existence, since English is a relatively new language. If one were to pick up an Arabic translation of the Bible, one would see the word “Allah” being used where the word “God” is used in English. For instance, Arabic speaking Christians say that Jesus is the Son of Allah.

In addition, the Arabic word for God, “Allah”, is quite similar to the word for God in other Semitic languages. For example, the Hebrew word for God is “Elah”. For various reasons, some Christians and Jews mistakenly believe that muslims worship a different God.
I hope this would be useful for narrowing the gap between eastren Christians and westren Christians.
Many thanks to all of you for your comments and reading my topic..

I hope the following quotation which excerpted from BUILDING BRIDGES by Fouad Accad (Colorado Springs, CO: Navpress, p. 22) will help in this topic:

And what about the 10 to 12 million Arab Christians today? They have been calling God ‘Allah’ in their Bibles, hymns, poems, writings, and worship for over nineteen centuries. What an insult to them when we tell them not to use this word ‘Allah’! Instead of bridging the distance between Muslims and Christians, we widen the gulf of separation between them and us when we promote such a doctrine. Those who still insist that it is blasphemy to refer to God as Allah should also consider that Muhammad’s father was named Abd Allah, ‘God’s servant,’ many years before his son was born or Islam was founded!”
 

maj123

Member
its because they speak Arabic, and God in Arabic is Allah, they don't probably speak English so why the heck would hey say God instead of Allah.

But what about the arabic Jews and christians who speak Arabic and write the Bible in their language , the are still til this moment use the word "Allah" instead of any other.
and kindly note what I posted in my above topic that English is relatively new language,
[As a matter of fact, the word Allah was in use far before the word God ever came into existence, since English is a relatively new language. If one were to pick up an Arabic translation of the Bible, one would see the word “Allah” being used where the word “God” is used in English. ]

And we should also note that Muslims use the word 'Allah' as a name which means names should not
changes when translated in other languages.
Below two images of the word "Allah" underlined with red color and it's the same you will find in the Quran in Arabic Language (not English Translations).
Thanks
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And also in some English versions of Bible:
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Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Because they speak arabic, just like the arabic Muslims and Allah is the arabic word for God.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Why would any non Arab think or speak in Arabic?
While God would by his nature be able to communicate in any language. There is no evidence that he has any preference for such an imprecise language as Arabic.

He must have communicated with all the prophets in languages that they understood. And we communicate and are guided by the Holy Spirit in our own languages not Arabic.
What use would Arabic, or any of our languages, be to God on the other worlds in the universe.
 

maj123

Member
I think it's important to know what others believe - knowing what they think about their God and how usually descripe him, for this purpose I checked the internet and found the following:
3. "Al-Rahim"
Allah, Praise and Glory to Him, has said,

"Inform My servants that I am the Forgiving, the Merciful" (Qur’an, 15:49).

"Al-Rahim" is derived from "rahmah," mercy or compassion. "Rahmah" implies the salvation of those who receive it from harm and loss, and their being blessed with guidance, forgiveness and sound conviction. Al-Rahim, i.e. the One Who grants rahmah, is a superlative. It is the highest derivative form of rahmah. Allah has said,

"He it is Who sends His blessings on you, and (so do) His angels, so that He may bring you out of utter darkness into the light, and He is Merciful to the believers" (Qur’an, 33:43).

Al-Rahim is the One Who bestows countless blessings. Some say that this word is derived from "Rahim," and we have already come to know that the root word for it is "rahmah," that is, favours from Allah and blessings; surely His blessings cannot be counted, nor can they ever be exhausted.

The Messenger of Allah has said, "One who has no compassion towards people is deprived from Allah's Compassion." He has also said, "One who does not respect the seniors among us, nor shows compassion towards our young, nor safeguards the rights of the scholars among us, is surely none of us." Compassion among the servants of Allah is a sure path to achieving the mercy of Allah. The Messenger of Allah has said, "Be merciful unto those on earth so that those in the heavens may be merciful unto you."
 

BilliardsBall

Veteran Member
Hello members,
In one article I have read the following:
" If the Arab hordes which swept over the ancient world were not Christians or Jews, then what were they? They were pagans who worshipped a pagan god called Allah and followed pagan rites which were practiced in Arabia long before the religion of Islam evolved.."
So I think that every christian should know this fact concerning Allah,

Often one hears the Arabic word “Allah” being used in discussions regarding Islam. The word “Allah” is simply the Arabic word for Almighty God, and is the same word used by Arabic speaking Christians and Jews. As a matter of fact, the word Allah was in use far before the word God ever came into existence, since English is a relatively new language. If one were to pick up an Arabic translation of the Bible, one would see the word “Allah” being used where the word “God” is used in English. For instance, Arabic speaking Christians say that Jesus is the Son of Allah.

In addition, the Arabic word for God, “Allah”, is quite similar to the word for God in other Semitic languages. For example, the Hebrew word for God is “Elah”. For various reasons, some Christians and Jews mistakenly believe that muslims worship a different God.
I hope this would be useful for narrowing the gap between eastren Christians and westren Christians.

No, Allah means "the God" and our Almighty God has a name, many wonderful names, in fact. The Bible gives many of the wonderful names for God, for liturgical, corporate and individual, blessed use.

But you must understand that the Bible teaches a knowable, intimate God will who have a relationship with individuals (individuals who trust Him for salvation). The Noble Qu'ran is clear--God is far above all men, who must hide their face from Heaven as they pray. God would never befriend a person, nor does He need Jesus Christ to help Him save.
 

maj123

Member
I Think it's important for every one knowing the meaning of Allah as those people
(Muslims) knowing Him and more better knowing that from their very sources, so
I'll post here what I found in some sites:

Allah is the Name of the Lord, the Exalted. It is said that Allah is the Greatest Name of Allah, because it is referred to when describing Allah by the various attributes. For instance, Allah said,
Al- Quran 59:22-24

God is He, Beside Whom there is no other god;- Who knows (all things) both secret and open; He, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

God is He, Beside Whom there is no other god;- the Sovereign, the Holy One, the Source of Peace (and Perfection), the Guardian of Faith, the Preserver of Safety, the Exalted in Might, the Irresistible, the Supreme: Glory to God! (High is He) above the partners they attribute to Him.

He is God, the Creator, the Evolver, the Bestower of Forms (or Colours). To Him belong the Most Beautiful Names: whatever is in the heavens and on earth, doth declare His Praises and Glory: and He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise.

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God! There is no god but He,-the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permitteth? He knoweth what (appeareth to His creatures as) before or after or behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He willeth. His Throne doth extend over the heavens and the earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory).
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Then you are not a Christian, because Allah is the god of Christians as well as Muslims, this has been explained quite clearly in this thread if you had read it.
 

Reggie Miller

Well-Known Member
Then you are not a Christian, because Allah is the god of Christians as well as Muslims, this has been explained quite clearly in this thread if you had read it.

Well, that is subjective regardless of what you or the thread says. What I said I stand by.
 

BilliardsBall

Veteran Member
Then you are not a Christian, because Allah is the god of Christians as well as Muslims, this has been explained quite clearly in this thread if you had read it.

Sorry, but the Noble Qu'ran says specifically, Jesus is not the Son of God.

The Bible says the opposite.

It is illogical to say Allah is Jehovah, therefore, or vice versa.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Where does the Koran say that, quotation please. you're free to worship a man if you want to, I worship God.
 
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