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What is wrong with those people who dress to look sexy?

Vinayaka

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Kirran said:
I know some people who find hijab very alluring, think it makes women look really cute. Is it the hijabis' fault that they look cute to those people, or is it an issue of those people?
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That is true, and I think really highlights the point that people don't know what makes themselves attractive to other people, or even if they are attractive. At least within spouses you can actually tell the other person what's attractive to you. People are all in all pretty naive about that. For example, I cannot stand make-up, and I'm not alone.
 
Kirran

Kirran

ॐ
Premium Member
This is, I think, a strong contributor to rape culture across the board, in all societies: the idea that it is a woman's fault what she makes a man feel sexually, and that therefore whatever he does about that is ultimately down to her. Many people who blame women for how they dress and think the only way to not be sexually-minded is to remove all possible sexual influences would of course disagree with some of the implications of this, but the base idea seems to be much the same.
 
sovietchild

sovietchild

Well-Known Member
Shadow Wolf said:
Why, oh why are you so obsessed that you would stare and notice such a thing and be offended by it? Instead of worrying so much about others who are not out to impress you or cater to your views are diubg, why not focus on what you are doing?
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Why would those women would want other women's husbands to stare at them? Maybe, they want to decay them. Don't you think? Elevate themselves, while bring others down.
 
Kirran

Kirran

ॐ
Premium Member
Vinayaka said:
That is true, and I think really highlights the point that people don't know what makes themselves attractive to other people, or even if they are attractive. At least within spouses you can actually tell the other person what's attractive to you. People are all in all pretty naive about that. For example, I cannot stand make-up, and I'm not alone.
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Not the biggest fan of makeup either, although I don't suppose I'd say I can't stand it as long as it's relatively subtle.
 
Vinayaka

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Kirran said:
This is, I think, a strong contributor to rape culture across the board, in all societies: the idea that it is a woman's fault what she makes a man feel sexually, and that therefore whatever he does about that is ultimately down to her. Many people who blame women for how they dress and think the only way to not be sexually-minded is to remove all possible sexual influences would of course disagree with some of the implications of this, but the base idea seems to be much the same.
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I had the same thought ... its really sad. Groping in crowds is an outcome of this attitude. And unfortunately it happens way too close to home while traveling in India. Creepy creepy stuff.
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
sovietchild said:
Why would those women would want other women's husbands to stare at them? Maybe, they want to decay them. Don't you think? Elevate themselves, while bring others down.
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Has it ever occurred to you that some women just don't like wearing panties, or just to occasionally go without, and it has absolutely nothing to do with sexual motives or "decaying husbands?" That wearing yoga pants isn't for your pleasure, but because they are loose and breathable workout pants? Women just aren't out to hustle men like such claims insist. Some are, but, then again, some men like being with some other guy's wife. There really is no reason to hold such suspicions against women.
 
Vinayaka

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
sovietchild said:
Well, maybe you live in the "cave" and don't get out much. I see lots of husbands stare at them. Don't you?
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I don't think I'm the one in the cave. If my daughter was traveling around the planet, I'd tell her about Kirran. I certainly wouldn't want her to have anything whatsoever to do with people who have your attitude.
 
Sunstone

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Vinayaka said:
People are all in all pretty naive about that. For example, I cannot stand make-up, and I'm not alone.
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Some years ago, John T. Malloy did a number of studies on the attractiveness of women's make up. He found that men consistently rated women more attractive without make up than with make up. The one exception to this was women over the age of 50 or so. They were rated more attractive with make up than without. Malloy concluded that younger women who wished to maximize their attractiveness should either wear very little make up -- so little that someone would need to look twice to be sure you were wearing it -- or they should wear no make up at all. Naturally, Malloy's findings have never gotten much attention, given the billions of dollars the cosmetics industry invests in convincing young women they need make up to be their most attractive.
 
sovietchild

sovietchild

Well-Known Member
Vinayaka said:
I don't think I'm the one in the cave. If my daughter was traveling around the planet, I'd tell her about Kirran. I certainly wouldn't want her to have anything whatsoever to do with people who have your attitude.
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Oh, I get it. Your daughter dresses erotic. Right? I thought you were Indian, Indian women usually dress modest.
 
Sunstone

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
sovietchild said:
Why would those women would want other women's husbands to stare at them?
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Maybe it's the husbands who want other people staring at their wives? Have you ever thought of that? I was pretty damn proud of how my first wife could make heads turn and hush conversations when she walked into a room. But she herself was practically oblivious to it; having experienced it all her adult life, she didn't pay it much attention.
 
Kirran

Kirran

ॐ
Premium Member
I am at a loss as to the train of logic r.e. whether @Vinayaka's daughter dresses in a manner that sovietchild would find sexually appealing (and how this relates to anything that's been said), but I await with baited breath.
 
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