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What is wrong with calling Islam religion of peace?

sovietchild

sovietchild

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gnostic said:
The problem with ISIS is completely different, and far more complex.

And I don't think it is a good idea to compare terrorists with Muhammad. You really don't want to go down that roads.

Muhammad was a man of his time. To me, Muhammad was a politician and warlord, like other warlords in Arabia at that time.

I wouldn't call Muhammad and his followers "terrorists", but I wouldn't call any of Muhammad's enemies "terrorists". Muslims, Meccans, Jews and Byzantines are not terrorists; none of them are.

If you start calling other people terrorists back in the 7th century, you would lose, because then people would be free to compare Muhammad's action as that of a terrorist.

So please, I would advise you not to bring terrorism up in our argument.
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Terrorism? No, no. I was just giving you an example. If ISIS is your enemy, then is it okay to capture those people (drivers) who bring them (ISIS) good stuff?
 
sovietchild

sovietchild

Well-Known Member
gnostic said:
The problem with ISIS is completely different, and far more complex.

And I don't think it is a good idea to compare terrorists with Muhammad. You really don't want to go down that roads.

Muhammad was a man of his time. To me, Muhammad was a politician and warlord, like other warlords in Arabia at that time.

I wouldn't call Muhammad and his followers "terrorists", but I wouldn't call any of Muhammad's enemies "terrorists". Muslims, Meccans, Jews and Byzantines are not terrorists; none of them are.

If you start calling other people terrorists back in the 7th century, you would lose, because then people would be free to compare Muhammad's action as that of a terrorist.

So please, I would advise you not to bring terrorism up in our argument.
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What is the difference between looters and terrorist?
 
firedragon

firedragon

Veteran Member
gnostic said:
Isn't Aisha's father one of his main companions, one of the earliest to follow him, and the first caliph after Muhammad's death?

What does that have anything to do with Muhammad's motivation for raiding and robbing traders or selling them to slavery?
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Where exactly did you get this information from?
 
Quintessence

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
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Notanumber

Notanumber

A Free Man
What an arrogant and fragile religion!

What does it say about a religion if it cannot stand criticism?

If it were so perfect, it would have all the answers.

It has not and it knows it has not!
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Notanumber said:
What an arrogant and fragile religion!

What does it say about a religion if it cannot stand criticism?

If it were so perfect, it would have all the answers.

It has not and it knows it has not!
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Much of this problem we see can be attributed to culture.
Nonetheless, their book does appear to support oppression.
It can be interpreted otherwise by modern "reformed" Muslims,
but the risk is always there that many will eschew peace & liberty.
 
Notanumber

Notanumber

A Free Man
A vision of the future for the USA.


Is laughter the best defence?


He might go a bit too far at times, but I hope he fully regains his public voice.
 
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