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omega2xx

Well-Known Member
superior being does not render evil for evil; this is a maxim one should observe; the ornament of virtuous persons is their conduct. One should never harm the wicked or the good or even criminals meriting death. A noble soul will ever exercise compassion even towards those who enjoy injuring others or those of cruel deeds when they are actually committing them--for who is without fault?

17.Hinduism. Ramayana, Yuddha Kanda 115

Close but no cigar. What you have quoted says what NOT TO DO.
The statements are negative. Love you enemy and pray for them is positive. It tells us what to do.

Not to be rude but at this moment I have to assume you have no concept of what any religion teaches outside of Christianity.

Guilty. Sometimes the truth is rude, but necessary. IMO, it is foolish to study false religions. I know enough about them that Christianity teaches they are false religions. Especially those with more than one God.

Your religion isn't special. It shares characteristics of many others and again, nothing you mentioned is impossible to come up with. It is actually so easy, its been done way before Christianity.

Christianity is special and unique. All religions have some similar concepts, it is the differences that makes Christianity special and unique. Most religions teach to find favor with God, one must be good. Christianity doe snot teach that. You have yet to show where any teaches to gain you lie you must lose it, to be strong, you must become weak, etc.
You don't really know when Hinduism was first started.

Also note how you talk about the trinity, as if its true by default for being unique, and then call other religions "myths", quite hypocritical.

I have never said the Trinity is true by default, I said I accept the doctrine and show in the Bibl , that it is taught. The doctrine of the Trinity is one of the thins that make Christianity unique. No other religion has that doctrine.

I don't think you are interested in anything outside of your own christian construct.

That's right. Why should I study a religion I reject as being from God?

To finish, your still using logic to say something unique makes it true by default. The Flying Spaghetti Monster is unique, that doesn't make it true by default because he isnt in other religions. How do you even mentally come to that conclusion I would love to know.

Now you are just being silly. Do you have any evidence that Christianity is not the only true one, or that just you default position?

If you don't happen to own any books outside of the Bible, which im assuming is the case, here is a solid list of scriptures from other religions saying to love your enemy :

World Scripture - LOVE YOUR ENEMY

I consider buy books about false religions a waste of money and studying them is a waste of time.

Not one of them said "love you enemy and pray for those who mistreat you, not one one of them even said "love your enemy. Human thinking does not think that way. Thanks for making my point.
 
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The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
IMO, it is foolish to study false religions. I know enough about them that Christianity teaches they are false religions.
And you've never took your own initiative to find out just how or why they are "false"? This, ladies and gentlemen, is the very example of "blind faith."

Christianity is special and unique.
No, it's really not. It's an off-shoot of Judaism still sharing many things in common with it to the point that you're basically Judaism pretending not to be. Even the sects that try (and fail) to ignore the Old Testament and print those little New Testament bibles.

I have never said the Trinity is true by default, I said I accept the doctrine and show in the Bibl , that it is taught. The doctrine of the Trinity is one of the thins that make Christianity unique. No other religion has that doctrine.
The Morrighan. Triglav. Svetovid. Odin, Thor and Loki. The Fates. The Norns. Many religions have a "trinity concept"; your religion is not unique in this. It is also excessively foolish for you to admit to knowing nothing of other religions, and they try to make an absolute statement about other religions.

Why should I study a religion I reject as being from God?
Know thy enemy. Also to know yourself; to know where your beliefs truly came from, and if they are in fact true. And what you claim to believe. Also so that you don't make mistakes from ignorance, as above.
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
And you've never took your own initiative to find out just how or why they are "false"? This, ladies and gentlemen, is the very example of "blind faith."

Christian faith is not blind. Christiasn faith is assurance and conviction---Heb 11"1


No, it's really not. It's an off-shoot of Judaism still sharing many things in common with it to the point that you're basically Judaism pretending not to be. Even the sects that try (and fail) to ignore the Old Testament and print those little New Testament bibles.

Christianity is not an offshoot of any religion. It is separate and unique. WE do use the OT as part of our belief system. Those little NT Bible are for children, not adults. Would you like me to send you one?

The Morrighan. Triglav. Svetovid. Odin, Thor and Loki. The Fates. The Norns. Many religions have a "trinity concept"; your religion is not unique in this. It is also excessively foolish for you to admit to knowing nothing of other religions, and they try to make an absolute statement about other religions.

None of the systems you mention have a doctrine of a Trinity. Evidently I know more about them than you do. I do not have to be a student of a religion to know it is false.

Know thy enemy. Also to know yourself; to know where your beliefs truly came from, and if they are in fact true. And what you claim to believe. Also so that you don't make mistakes from ignorance, as above.

False religion are not my enemy, they are the victim of my enemy. l I know myself better than you know your self, and I know where my beliefs truly come from. I also know where your belief system comes from, do you? You are your own God; you will determine what is right and wrong. That thinking is the poster child of ignorance.
 

The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
Christian faith is not blind. Christiasn faith is assurance and conviction---Heb 11"1
Using the bible to back up belief in the bible is circular logic. Believing things without truly knowing why (e.g. other religions are false) is bling faith.

Christianity is not an offshoot of any religion.
Yes it is. But then again, not knowing about other religions, how would you know? You're only unique when you blind yourself to the rest of the world.

Those little NT Bible are for children, not adults. Would you like me to send you one?
Nice. Is this an example of Christian maturity?

None of the systems you mention have a doctrine of a Trinity.
Those that I mentioned are trinities and trinity godheads.

I know myself better than you know your self,
You don't know me in the slightest, so how can you say that? Spoiler Alert: You can't.

I know where my beliefs truly come from.
Evidently not, if you deny that it came from Judaism.

I also know where your belief system comes from, do you?
Let me guess.. "the devil."

You are your own God;
False; Thor is my God.
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
Using the bible to back up belief in the bible is circular logic. Believing things without truly knowing why (e.g. other religions are false) is bling faith.


Not unless you have evidence m the Bible is wrong and you don't.

]Yes it is. But then again, not knowing about other religions, how would you know? You're only unique when you blind yourself to the rest of the world.

Evidently you didn't understand that one does not have to be a student of a religion to know it is false.


Nice. Is this an example of Christian maturity?

It is an example of sarcasm to highlight you ignorance of little NT Bibles.


Those that I mentioned are trinities and trinity godheads.

Also, you are ignorant of the doctrine of the Trinity.

You don't know me in the slightest, so how can you say that? Spoiler Alert: You can't.

I know much tyou from your posts.

Evidently not, if you deny that it came from Judaism.

You crsiticize me for not knowing about other religions, but you are also ignorant of Christianity.


False; Thor is my God.

Thor is not a God and there is no such things as gods.
 

The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
Not unless you have evidence m the Bible is wrong and you don't.
There is a ton of evidence that the bible is written by men, selectively compiled for political gain and influence, and - in some cases - altered to better reflect personal opinion and bias. Failed prophecies, myths that don't line up with fact, etc. The question is, will you accept any of that evidence? Likely not. Given what has been shown just today, I doubt that you would accept conclusive evidence that contradicts the book entirely (as is the case with a couple books in the bible.)

Evidently you didn't understand that one does not have to be a student of a religion to know it is false.
Correction, one doesn't need to be a student of a religion to think it's false. If you want to know something, you have to know about it - specifically about it, not assumed biases told to you by church leaders.

Evidently you - and other Abrahamics who think the same - don't understand that you don't need to follow a religion (be an adherent) to learn about it. It's that exact ignorance of other beliefs and cultures (and the asinine self-inflation of one's own beliefs) that has lead to wars.

It is an example of sarcasm to highlight you ignorance of little NT Bibles.
It was also clearly an example of you calling someone a child.

The Gideon International New Testament & Pslams bibles are handed out to several types of people including, but not limited to: college students; members of the armed forces (military); medical professionals; and on street corners.

It would seem I'm not the one ignorant of those specific distributions.

Also, you are ignorant of the doctrine of the Trinity.
Again, something you cannot possibly know. How does that old Commandment go? "Thou Shall Not Bear False Witness"? Tsk tsk.

I know much tyou from your posts.
Yet nothing that would indicate how well I know myself. False witness again.

You crsiticize me for not knowing about other religions, but you are also ignorant of Christianity.
Actually I'm not. Aside from being a Christian for half my life, I studied Christianity directly for no less than four years. I could be officially ordained, if I so chose.

Christianity did come from Judaism. At it's absolute root, Early Christians were Jews who accepted that Jesus was the Messiah - whereas Jews reject that belief. This is why Christianity retains many Jewish observances and rituals. "Christian" as a term was originally a pejorative (an insult) given to the Jewish sect by the Romans. The term was officially adopted when Christianity became an established religion in 325 CE.

Thor is not a God and there is no such things as gods.
Says you--you who are admittedly ignorant of other religions. And yet Thor is a God, and your rejection of other gods does not change what they are. Your own bible recognizes other gods.
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
There is a ton of evidence that the bible is written by men, selectively compiled for political gain and influence, and - in some cases - altered to better reflect personal opinion and bias. Failed prophecies, myths that don't line up with fact, etc. The question is, will you accept any of that evidence? Likely not. Given what has been shown just today, I doubt that you would accept conclusive evidence that contradicts the book entirely (as is the case with a couple books in the bible.)

Talk is cheap present your evidence.

Correction, one doesn't need to be a student of a religion to think it's false. If you want to know something, you have to know about it - specifically about it, not assumed biases told to you by church leaders.

Not true. Any religion that has more than one God is false; any religion that has writing the contradict the Bible is false; any religion based on a mythical god is false. Do you know enough about Christianity to say it is false? You seem to think Christianity is a false religion, but you don't understand any of it as far as I can tell. So apply your standard to your self first.


Evidently you - and other Abrahamics who think the same - don't understand that you don't need to follow a religion (be an adherent) to learn about it. It's that exact ignorance of other beliefs and cultures (and the asinine self-inflation of one's own beliefs) that has lead to wars.

What a silly statement. I know I can learn about any religion if i study it. You don't seem to understand that to study a false religion is a waste of time. It is more productive to study the only true one. Men would start wars if their was no religions.

It was also clearly an example of you calling someone a child.

I didn't call anyone a child, I told you the purpose of mall NT Bibles.

The Gideon International New Testament & Pslams bibles are handed out to several types of people including, but not limited to: college students; members of the armed forces (military); medical professionals; and on street corners.

That is because they don't know the spiritual status of those people and they wan to make sure they have something easy to understand.

It would seem I'm not the one ignorant of those specific distributions.

Your knowledge underwhelmes me.

Again, something you cannot possibly know. How does that old Commandment go? "Thou Shall Not Bear False Witness"? Tsk tsk.

Maybe you need to get a better understand of that commandment.


Yet nothing that would indicate how well I know myself. False witness again.

Actually I'm not. Aside from being a Christian for half my life, I studied Christianity directly for no less than four years. I could be officially ordained, if I so chose.

If you were ever a Christian, you still are. You are a prodigal and one day you will have spent all your heavenly Father gave you and get tire of feeding the pig and will return. You would not be ordained in any conservative denomination. It is doubtful that even in a liberal denomination would ordain you. If you told them Thor was your God, they would smile politely, sdhow you the door and says, "don't call us, we'll call you.

Christianity did come from Judaism. At it's absolute root, Early Christians were Jews who accepted that Jesus was the Messiah - whereas Jews reject that belief. This is why Christianity retains many Jewish observances and rituals. "Christian" as a term was originally a pejorative (an insult) given to the Jewish sect by the Romans. The term was officially adopted when Christianity became an established religion in 325 CE.

Not true. Judaism is based on keeping the law to find favor with God, Christianity is based on God's grace alone. Wht Jewish ritual and customs do you find in Christianity? Christianity was an established religion during Paul's ministry and Christians were first called Christians in Antioch during his ministry---Acts 11:26

Says you--you who are admittedly ignorant of other religions. And yet Thor is a God, and your rejection of other gods does not change what they are. Your own bible recognizes other gods.

I admit I am ignorant of other religions as you are ignorant of Christianity. Your acceptance that Thor is a God, does not make him one and your acceptance that there are other gods does not make them gods. God acknowledges that other nations have made and named some the consider Gods. Now with your great study of the Bible, you l know what God calls them and what he calls worshiping them.
 

The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
Talk is cheap present your evidence.
Convince me that it wouldn't be a waste of time.

Any religion that has more than one God is false; any religion that has writing the contradict the Bible is false; any religion based on a mythical god is false.
Talk is cheap, present your evidence.

You seem to think Christianity is a false religion
Now where, in anything that I've posted, have I said that? You seem very big on False Witness. You do know that's a sin, right?

Men would start wars if their was no religions.
Good thing I didn't say all wars. But ignorance of other's religions, over-inflation of one's own religion, and the "dominance/overcompensating complex" that you're displaying here have sparked many more wars than drilling for oil or fighting over land.

I didn't call anyone a child, I told you the purpose of mall NT Bibles.
And then asked if you should send me one. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to see the correlation of "those bibles are for children" and "should I send you one?", omega.

That is because they don't know the spiritual status of those people and they wan to make sure they have something easy to understand.
You don't know the "spiritual status" of anyone that is handed Jesus paraphernalia, and yet Christians the world over do it anyways. Regardless, those bibles are handed out to many people, only a fraction of whom are children. Most are adults in active professions, so having a condensed bible to "the essentials" is convenient.

You bluster that "my knowledge underwhelms you", but at least I don't have to resort to false witness, assumption, and semantic gymnastics when proven wrong.
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
Convince me that it wouldn't be a waste of time.

Not interested, If you have evidence either present or admit you don't have any.

Now where, in anything that I've posted, have I said that? You seem very big on False Witness. You do know that's a sin, right?

It seems that you go out of your way to accuse me of bearing false witness. Suggestion, get a good dictdionary and look up the definition of "seems<


Good thing I didn't say all wars. But ignorance of other's religions, over-inflation of one's own religion, and the "dominance/overcompensating complex" that you're displaying here have sparked many more wars than drilling for oil or fighting over land.

Pass the mustard. It makes the bolony taste better.

And then asked if you should send me one. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to see the correlation of "those bibles are for children" and "should I send you one?", omega.

If you don't understand sarcasm, I will quit using it.

You don't know the "spiritual status" of anyone that is handed Jesus paraphernalia, and yet Christians the world over do it anyways. Regardless, those bibles are handed out to many people, only a fraction of whom are children. Most are adults in active professions, so having a condensed bible to "the essentials" is convenient.


When you don't know the status of people, kids or adults, you give them the easiest things to read and understand.

You bluster that "my knowledge underwhelms you", but at least I don't have to resort to false witness, assumption, and semantic gymnastics when proven wrong.

You just did. :p
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
Not true. Any religion that has more than one God is false;

And how would you know? Have you looked for any gods other than the one you worship?


any religion that has writing the contradict the Bible is false;

I guess Christianity is false then because the Bible contradicts itself. The Bible supports both the notion that salvation is through faith alone and that it is through works.


any religion based on a mythical god is false.

So your religion is false.
 

The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
Not interested, If you have evidence either present or admit you don't have any.
And so it begins--the great Back And Forth of our time.

Y'know what? What the hell. But when you reject these as "the devil's lies" or "not understanding Christianity", and this has been a waste of time and effort, don't say my prophecy wasn't right.

  • The Bible Is Written By Men: Every single book in the bible is written by men, this is an absolute fact. Moses is credited with the authorship of Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy, however it's more likely that they were written in the 6th or 5th Century BCE. Joshua is credited with the Book of Joshua, Samuel, Gad and Nathan are credited with the Book of Judges and the Book of Samuel, etc. The Canonical Gospels are anonymous, but credited to the four who they are named for, John of Patmos wrote Revelation, Paul wrote all the Epistles, etc. The Bible is a collection of written accounts of oral cultural myths (some taken from Mesopotamian and Sumerian myths, such as the Epic of Gilgamesh), cultural songs, fabricated histories*, myths of and experiences with a cultural figure, and letters to surrounding cities and cultures.
  • The Bible Was Selectively Compiled: There are four "Canonical Gospels" that were chosen among other scripture (what you use now) by the Council of Trent in the year 1546, ratifying decisions made by the Canons of Florence in 1442, the Second Council of Trullan in 692, and the North African Councils of Hippo and Carthage of the years 393-419. These "Canonical Gospels" confirm a chosen narrative of Jesus that is challenged (and outnumbered) by the remainder of gospel accounts - thereafter referred to as the Gnostic gospels.
  • The Bible Was Altered To Better Reflect Personal Opinion and Bias: The entire development of the King James Version of the bible. The biggest give-away is in the name itself.
  • Failed Prophecies: Pick any "second coming" prophecy and prediction. Jesus was supposed to return before those gathered before him died. He did not. Since then this "generation" has been shifted to every single generation for hundreds of years, and every single time Jesus hasn't returned, and the world hasn't ended. I suppose the hope is that those making the predictions will be right eventually, but more likely than not they'll have to abscond in shame like Harold Camping.
  • Myths That Don't Line Up With Fact: There is no geological way (and no, miracles are not sufficient) that the entire world could have been flooded in 40 days, and for all that water to disappear. There is no possible way that even every animal of the Fertile Crescent could fit onto Noah's "ark" with the dimensions given of the boat, nor would such a vessel have been sea worthy. There are trees currently alive older than any "biblical" dating of the earth. There are literally mountains of fossil evidence that directly contradicts the entire Genesis account.
  • *Conclusive Evidence That Contradicts Accounts Entirely: There is zero evidence that the Hebrew people wandered the desert for 40 years. No graves, campsites, artifact remnants, nothing. Furthermore there is no archeological evidence that the Hebrews were enslaved in Egypt, the Pyramids of Giza were built by the entire Egyptian population in a time of economic bounty, there is no extra-biblical account of the Ten Plagues (which would have been a big deal,) and no Egyptian Pharaoh fits the bill for the ambiguously narrated one in Exodus. The entire book is a historical fabrication.
It seems that you go out of your way to accuse me of bearing false witness. Suggestion, get a good dictdionary and look up the definition of "seems<
First off, it's dictionary. Secondly, you're very plainly going out of your way to make incorrect assumptions (of which you have no ability to know,) about me - in a phrase, bearing false witness. You bet your bottom dollar I'm going to call you out on that.

Pass the mustard. It makes the bolony taste better.
Ref. The Christianization of Europe, the Massacre of Verden, the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisitions, the Spanish Conquests, the American Colonization, etc.
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
And how would you know? Have you looked for any gods other than the one you worship?

To look for other kGods would be a waste of time. If you want to look, let me know how many you find.


I guess Christianity is false then because the Bible contradicts itself. The Bible supports both the notion that salvation is through faith alone and that it is through works.

No it doesn't.

So your religion is false.

Your understanding of Christianity is false.
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
And so it begins--the great Back And Forth of our time.

Y'know what? What the hell. But when you reject these as "the devil's lies" or "not understanding Christianity", and this has been a waste of time and effort, don't say my prophecy wasn't right.

  • The Bible Is Written By Men: Every single book in the bible is written by men, this is an absolute fact. Moses is credited with the authorship of Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy, however it's more likely that they were written in the 6th or 5th Century BCE. Joshua is credited with the Book of Joshua, Samuel, Gad and Nathan are credited with the Book of Judges and the Book of Samuel, etc. The Canonical Gospels are anonymous, but credited to the four who they are named for, John of Patmos wrote Revelation, Paul wrote all the Epistles, etc. The Bible is a collection of written accounts of oral cultural myths (some taken from Mesopotamian and Sumerian myths, such as the Epic of Gilgamesh), cultural songs, fabricated histories*, myths of and experiences with a cultural figure, and letters to surrounding cities and cultures.
Men held the pen, but God guided the hand



  • The Bible Was Selectively Compiled: There are four "Canonical Gospels" that were chosen among other scripture (what you use now) by the Council of Trent in the year 1546, ratifying decisions made by the Canons of Florence in 1442, the Second Council of Trullan in 692, and the North African Councils of Hippo and Carthage of the years 393-419. These "Canonical Gospels" confirm a chosen narrative of Jesus that is challenged (and outnumbered) by the remainder of gospel accounts - thereafter referred to as the Gnostic gospels.[/QUOTE]
Irrelevant. If God did not determine the canon, we are wasting our time using the Bible for our spiritual understanding. It was selectively compiled and God did the selecting.


  • ]The Bible Was Altered To Better Reflect Personal Opinion and Bias:
    The entire development of the King James Version of the bible. The biggest give-away is in the name itself.
Not true and evidently you don't know why it is called the King James.

Failed Prophecies: Pick any "second coming" prophecy and prediction. Jesus was supposed to return before those gathered before him died. He did not. Since then this "generation" has been shifted to every single generation for hundreds of years, and every single time Jesus hasn't returned, and the world hasn't ended. I suppose the hope is that those making the predictions will be right eventually, but more likely than not they'll have to abscond in shame like Harold Camping.

That prophecy was fulfilled if you know how to interpret the verses.

  • ]Myths That Don't Line Up With Fact:
    There is no geological way (and no, miracles are not sufficient) that the entire world could have been flooded in 40 days, and for all that water to disappear. There is no possible way that even every animal of the Fertile Crescent could fit onto Noah's "ark" with the dimensions given of the boat, nor would such a vessel have been sea worthy. There are trees currently alive older than any "biblical" dating of the earth. There are literally mountains of fossil evidence that directly contradicts the entire Genesis account.
Tell me the cubit feet of the ark and the average size of the animals it had.

*Conclusive Evidence That Contradicts Accounts Entirely: There is zero evidence that the Hebrew people wandered the desert for 40 years. No graves, campsites, artifact remnants, nothing. Furthermore there is no archeological evidence that the Hebrews were enslaved in Egypt, the Pyramids of Giza were built by the entire Egyptian population in a time of economic bounty, there is no extra-biblical account of the Ten Plagues (which would have been a big deal,) and no Egyptian Pharaoh fits the bill for the ambiguously narrated one in Exodus. The entire book is a historical fabrication.
Lack of evidence is snot evidence. Do you really think all of the records from that time are still available? If you do, you are naive

First off, it's dictionary. Secondly, you're very plainly going out of your way to make incorrect assumptions (of which you have no ability to know,) about me - in a phrase, bearing false witness. You bet your bottom dollar I'm going to call you out on that.

I haven't claimed to know you in detail, only from what you post. Tell me something I have said that I don't know about you.

Ref. The Christianization of Europe, the Massacre of Verden, the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisitions, the Spanish Conquests, the American Colonization, etc.

Be specific.
 

The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
No [the bible doesn't contradict itself].
Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?
"Again the anger of the lord burned against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, 'Go and take a census of Israel and Judah.'" 2 Samuel 24:1
"Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel." 1 Chronicles 21:1

Who was the father of Joseph, husband of Mary?
"and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, and Mary was the mother of Jesus who is called the Messiah." Matthew 1:16
"Now Jesus himself was about thirty years old when he began his ministry. He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph, the son of Heli," Luke 3:23

Was John the Baptist Elijah who was to come?
"The disciples asked him, 'Why then do the teachers of the law say that Elijah must come first?' Jesus replied, 'To be sure, Elijah comes and will restore all things. But I tell you, Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him, but have done to him everything they wished. In the same way the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands.' Then the disciples understood that he was talking to them about John the Baptist." Matthew 17:10-13
"Now this was John’s testimony when the Jewish leaders in Jerusalem sent priests and Levites to ask him who he was. He did not fail to confess, but confessed freely, 'I am not the Messiah.' They asked him, 'Then who are you? Are you Elijah?' He said, 'I am not.' 'Are you the Prophet?' He answered, 'No.'" John 1:19-21

Judas also has three deaths accounted differently.
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
To look for other kGods would be a waste of time.

Again, how would you know?! If you've never looked for yourself you have no reason to assume it's a waste of time. You're engaging in confirmation bias.


If you want to look, let me know how many you find.

I've looked for one and found her. Another one found me.


No it doesn't.

Verses supporting salvation by faith alone:
  • Romans 3:28
  • Romans 5:1
  • Galatians 3:24
Verses supporting salvation by faith and works:
  • James 2:24

You were saying?


Your understanding of Christianity is false.

I'm merely reversing your own lack of thinking back on you. If you see it as flawed then I suggest and examine the claims that my statement is reflecting.
 

The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
Men held the pen, but God guided the hand
Of which there is zero evidence for. No more than any other cultures' mythology. You Christians take "divine inspiration" far too literally. It does not mean that your god literally guided the writing of a specific text, but that whoever wrote said text had your god in mind when he did. If I write a poem about my Gods, it too is "divinely inspired"

Irrelevant. If God did not determine the canon, we are wasting our time using the Bible for our spiritual understanding. It was selectively compiled and God did the selecting.
Not irrelevant. There are several accounts of interactions with Jesus that are ignored. Men compiled and selected your bible's books, and they did so to push a narrative. Your rebuttal is pure denial, nothing more.

Not true and evidently you don't know why it is called the King James.
More false witness from you. It is so named because King James VI and I commissioned it to be written (using poor, rushed translations and with punishments issued when the King's vision wasn't met) to complete work began by Henry VIII for his rebellious Church of England - began because the Church wouldn't let him divorce his wife.

It is named for a man, commissioned by a man, overseen by a man, and flawed due to such.

That prophecy was fulfilled if you know how to interpret the verses.
Do explain, because Jesus certainly has not returned.

Tell me the cubit feet of the ark and the average size of the animals it had.
I've provided you with more than enough, given your obstinacy to equal discourse.

Lack of evidence is snot evidence.
When it comes to human record, it is. 40 years is a long time, and would have produced something physical. All we have is a myth.

I haven't claimed to know you in detail,
Actually you did, when you said you know yourself better than I know myself. Something you cannot possibly know.
 

Blackdog22

Well-Known Member
Close but no cigar. What you have quoted says what NOT TO DO. The statements are negative. Love you enemy and pray for them is positive. It tells us what to do.



Guilty. Sometimes the truth is rude, but necessary. IMO, it is foolish to study false religions. I know enough about them that Christianity teaches they are false religions. Especially those with more than one God.



Christianity is special and unique. All religions have some similar concepts, it is the differences that makes Christianity special and unique. Most religions teach to find favor with God, one must be good. Christianity doe snot teach that. You have yet to show where any teaches to gain you lie you must lose it, to be strong, you must become weak, etc.
You don't really know when Hinduism was first started.



I have never said the Trinity is true by default, I said I accept the doctrine and show in the Bibl , that it is taught. The doctrine of the Trinity is one of the thins that make Christianity unique. No other religion has that doctrine.



That's right. Why should I study a religion I reject as being from God?



Now you are just being silly. Do you have any evidence that Christianity is not the only true one, or that just you default position?



I consider buy books about false religions a waste of money and studying them is a waste of time.

Not one of them said "love you enemy and pray for those who mistreat you, not one one of them even said "love your enemy. Human thinking does not think that way. Thanks for making my point.

The point the verses got across was to love people who do you wrong, that is specifically saying love your enemy, apparently you think that if I say "Would you like to dance" and "I like would to dance with you" then they have drastically different meanings. This is such a bizarre way of going about basic conversation I have to ponder if you are trolling me. Besides the fact you are actively talking about things you admit to knowing nothing about, the rest of your points come across from the pov of someone who has lived in a bubble their entire lives. On the other hand, you are exactly the kind of person I run into in America regarding Christianity, so on that front, I thank you for proving all my points in regards to people with your mentality.
 
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