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Who will the Antichrist be?

SethZaddik

Active Member
So who will be Satan's counterfeit Christ-Messiah? He will be a man of peace right? What is your understanding of this person? Will He rule the world?

I like you Pope, you are a good dude.

But you speak of The Antichrist as if it is a prophecy in the Bible, Apocalypse naturally.

But Antichrist is never used once in the entire book of Revelation and the beasts were all first century people.

Nero was 666.

Paul of TRSU (Tarsus, equals 666)

And the militant Messianic Jews who expected a David warrior Messiah to usher in a new Solomonic Kingdom.

Solomon is connected to 666 by his yearly gold tributes and by the Seal of Solomon or hexagram which represents 666.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I like you Pope, you are a good dude.

But you speak of The Antichrist as if it is a prophecy in the Bible, Apocalypse naturally.

But Antichrist is never used once in the entire book of Revelation and the beasts were all first century people.

Nero was 666.

Paul of TRSU (Tarsus, equals 666)

And the militant Messianic Jews who expected a David warrior Messiah to usher in a new Solomonic Kingdom.

Solomon is connected to 666 by his yearly gold tributes and by the Seal of Solomon or hexagram which represents 666.
I agree. The prophecy I speak of is coming from people, not Scripture. The belief in the Antichrist is a common belief, so I thought I'd ask about it. It isn't very Biblical though but a lot of Christians believe there will be an Antichrist that will rule the world, so I thought I'd ask about it to get a better understanding of what that belief is and where it comes from.
 

allfoak

Alchemist
I agree. The prophecy I speak of is coming from people, not Scripture. The belief in the Antichrist is a common belief, so I thought I'd ask about it. It isn't very Biblical though but a lot of Christians believe there will be an Antichrist that will rule the world, so I thought I'd ask about it to get a better understanding of what that belief is and where it comes from.
Wait!
I submitted my resume!
It's a hoax?
Figures.
Plan B.
 

SethZaddik

Active Member
I agree. The prophecy I speak of is coming from people, not Scripture. The belief in the Antichrist is a common belief, so I thought I'd ask about it. It isn't very Biblical though but a lot of Christians believe there will be an Antichrist that will rule the world, so I thought I'd ask about it to get a better understanding of what that belief is and where it comes from.
Understandable.

What is failed to be realized is the anti Messiah was pre Christ and was named Nimrod.

He was a Messiah to his people, the first Messiah ever actually.

I have a certain theory that Mohammed was the warrior Messiah to Jesus Priestly Messiah, although Messiah is a term only applied to Jesus (except the very interesting Gospel of Barnabas) and in fact it was Islam that returned Jerusalem to the Semitic people.

I believe if anyone was the leader of first century antichrists, people against the teachings of Jesus, it was Saul/Paul.

We need look no further.
 

SethZaddik

Active Member
Understandable.

What is failed to be realized is the anti Messiah was pre Christ and was named Nimrod.

He was a Messiah to his people, the first Messiah ever actually.

I have a certain theory that Mohammed was the warrior Messiah to Jesus Priestly Messiah, although Messiah is a term only applied to Jesus (except the very interesting Gospel of Barnabas) and in fact it was Islam that returned Jerusalem to the Semitic people.

I believe if anyone was the leader of first century antichrists, people against the teachings of Jesus, it was Saul/Paul.

We need look no further.

Add Constantine to the list of evil Messiah's along with Titus.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
so I thought I'd ask about it to get a better understanding of what that belief is and where it comes from.
The idea has multiple definitions Biblically depending which book you question, if you really want to understand where it comes from:

John specified the terminology Anti-Christ, it is defined as one who says, "jesus didn't come in the flesh, yet only spirit".

Paul makes up the idea of the Son of Perdition, who will say 'God is within'; which is what Yeshua taught. :oops:

The book of peter makes up ideas about, wicked ones coming among the church to lead everyone astray.

Then when Revelations is speaking about Christianity being the guilty party, everyone gets confused, thinking this line is speaking about others outside the church:

Revelation 16:13 I saw coming out of the mouth of the dragon (John), and out of the mouth of the beast (Paul), and out of the mouth of the false prophet (Simon the stone (petros)), three unclean spirits, something like frogs.

Once these bits are understood, so much more of the Tanakh, and NT make sense. :innocent:
 

Rapture Era

Active Member
I agree. The prophecy I speak of is coming from people, not Scripture. The belief in the Antichrist is a common belief, so I thought I'd ask about it. It isn't very Biblical though but a lot of Christians believe there will be an Antichrist that will rule the world, so I thought I'd ask about it to get a better understanding of what that belief is and where it comes from.
Whats going to kick off the Anti christ being known will be the Rapture of the church which by all indications will be soon. As the world is in turmoil for leadership, this man who will be inspired by Satan himself will rise up from obscurity kind of like Obama did. He will bring order and world peace. Everyone will love him. His oratory skills will be like no other and he will convince the world that he is the one who will bring peace and stability. He will also sign a peace agreement with Israel for 7 years. The moment that peace agreement is signed, there will be 7 years left of human history. The first 3-1/2 years will be great, the last 3-1/2 years will be horrible beyond comprehension because people of the earth will see who he really is. There will be a point at which he sets himself up in the Temple (not yet built) in Israel to be worshiped as god. He will institute a new way of buying and selling with a mark of some sort that will identify you as being you, and you will not be able to buy or sell without it. It will also be a mark of your allegiance to him and an instant ticket, non refundable, to your eternal separation from the one and only true living God of the Bible.
Now having said that, I realize most people on this site will disagree and make snide comments, jokes and thats fine. Just keep something in mind because you wont have a choice in the matter, and that is this, when the Rapture event take place, you will know this wasnt a lie or a story or a fairytale. When you see and or hear of the 7 year peace agreement with Israel by this world leader, you will also remember this thread and realize the Bible is telling the truth of these soon to be future events.
Btw, this prophecy is coming from biblical scripture.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Whats going to kick off the Anti christ being known will be the Rapture of the church which by all indications will be soon. As the world is in turmoil for leadership, this man who will be inspired by Satan himself will rise up from obscurity kind of like Obama did. He will bring order and world peace. Everyone will love him. His oratory skills will be like no other and he will convince the world that he is the one who will bring peace and stability. He will also sign a peace agreement with Israel for 7 years. The moment that peace agreement is signed, there will be 7 years left of human history. The first 3-1/2 years will be great, the last 3-1/2 years will be horrible beyond comprehension because people of the earth will see who he really is. There will be a point at which he sets himself up in the Temple (not yet built) in Israel to be worshiped as god. He will institute a new way of buying and selling with a mark of some sort that will identify you as being you, and you will not be able to buy of sell without it. It will also be a mark of your allegiance to him and an instant ticket, non refundable, to your eternal separation from the one and only true living God of the Bible.
Now having said that, I realize most people on this site will disagree and make snide comments, jokes and thats fine. Just keep something in mind because you wont have a choice in the matter, and that is this, when the Rapture event take place, you will know this wasnt a lie or a story or a fairytale. When you see and or hear of the 7 year peace agreement with Israel by this world leader, you will also remember this thread and realize the Bible is telling the truth of these soon to be future events.
Btw, this prophecy is coming from biblical scripture.
okay...so you believe there will be a false-messiah who will rule the world?
 
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So who will be Satan's counterfeit Christ-Messiah? He will be a man of peace right? What is your understanding of this person? Will He rule the world?

To answer this question we must know what the main attributes of the Antichrist is.
He must be a murderer
He must be a hater
He must be a deceiver
He must oppress
He must be a liar
He must demand worship

The only being that fits these attributes to a t is ALLAH!
 

The Hammer

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Premium Member
So who will be Satan's counterfeit Christ-Messiah? He will be a man of peace right? What is your understanding of this person? Will He rule the world?
It will be the person you least expect it to be. And no one will see him coming. If he comes at all.
 

Rapture Era

Active Member
okay...so you believe there will be a false-messiah who will rule the world?
Yes, but the bible tells us that at the end of the 7 year tribulation period, Jesus will come back physically. This is his second coming. Had He not come when He does, the Bible tells us there would be no flesh (human beings) left on the planet apparently because of what the anti-christ is going to do and all the judgments poured out on an unbelieving world. I realize this is long but this is how it will all transpire after the Rapture. I'm only posting this because you seem to want to know how this period of time will all play out, so hear ya go.

(1) Revelation 4:1-2. John, a symbol of the church, is taken up to heaven.

(2) Daniel 9:27. The Antichrist signs a covenant for seven years with the nation of Israel. This is the event that inaugurates the Tribulation period.

(3) Revelation 6:1-2. Christ opens the first of the seven-sealed scroll, and the rider on the white horse (probably Antichrist) appears, using diplomacy and the promise of peace to establish his one-world government.

(4) Revelation 6:3-4. The second seal introduces a great world war.

(5) Revelation 6:5-6. The third seal begins the suffering of famine and inflation (the aftermath of war).

(6) Revelation 6:7-8. The fourth seal results, as do all wars, in death, but in this case it totals one-fourth of the people and living creatures. By today’s population standards, that would amount to one-and-a-half billion people.

(7) Revelation 6:9-11. This passage introduces the martyrdom of those who are converted under the preaching of the 144,000 Jewish witnesses described in chapter 7. An innumerable number of people receive Christ and are martyred by the government leader and harlot (the religious system described in chapter 17), who gets her power from the Antichrist. Note that evangelism during this period is back in the hands of the Jews. Since the church is absent, the 144,000 apostle-Paul-type believers will make powerful evangelists.

(8) Revelation 6:12-17. This sixth seal exhibits the wrath of God poured out in the form of a mighty earthquake, the like of which has never been experienced. It is so severe that people call on the rocks to fall on them.

(9) Revelation 8:1-6. The seventh seal introduces the Seven Trumpet Judgments, ending the first quarter of the Tribulation period and preparing for an even worse period called the “day of His [God’s] wrath.”

(10) Revelation 8:7. The first trumpet judgment results in one-third of all trees and green grass being burned up by hail, fire, and blood cast upon the earth.

(11) Revelation 8:8-9. The second trumpet sees a great mountain of sulfur falling into the sea and destroying a third-part of the sea and all living creatures in it and a third of the shipping vessels. Think of The Poseidon Adventure multiplied times one-third of all the world’s ships!

(12) Revelation 8:10-11. The third trumpet causes a great star (or meteor) called Wormword (or “bitter”) to fall on the fountains of water and third of rivers to turn bitter, resulting in the deaths of millions.

(13) Revelation 8:12. The fourth trumpet results in one-third less sun, moonlight, and stars, extending the darkness of night.

(14) Revelation 8:13. A special angel flies around the earth, warning that worse judgments are to come.

(15) Revelation 9:1-12. The fifth trumpet introduces hideous demon-like creatures such as scorpions and locusts out of the bottomless pit. Not able to kill men, they torture them so badly that they “will seek death and will not find it.”

(16) Revelation 9:13. The sixth trumpet introduces two hundred million horsemen (demon spirit-like death angels), who kill one-third of the people. This will occur between the fortieth and forty-second month of the first part of the Tribulation, which brings to 50 percent the population that is destroyed by God before the midpoint of the Tribulation. These individuals have taken the mark of the Beast and are considered incorrigibles. Since estimates of upwards of a quarter of those living at that time still be saved under the preaching of the 144,000 mentioned in Revelation 7:9, it is possible that 75 percent of the population 25 percent by martyrdom) will have been destroyed during the first half of the Tribulation period.

(17) Revelation 11:3-14. The Two Witnesses prophesy 1,260 days—a ministry which, if taken literally, would correspond with the forty-two months of judgments already described.

Obviously, these two witnesses are real people with miraculous powers like Moses and Elijah, here to preach and witness during the entire first half of the Tribulation. It may be through their witness that the 144,000 are saved and sent out preaching. As dreadful a time as this will be, God is faithful to provide plenty of gospel preaching to the nations.

(18) Revelation 11:15. The seventh trumpet judgment introduces the awesome events described in chapters 12-18 and the most severe set of judgments yet reported, the Vial Judgments.

(19) Revelation 17:1-18. Describes the destruction of the Babylonish, false religious system—the great harlot—which will merge all the religions of the world during the first part of the Tribulation (which will take place easily after the church is raptured). This system will be so powerful that it will dominate both the Antichrist (“the beast”) and the ten kings at that time. But because of their hatred for the harlot, at the midpoint of the Tribulation, they will make war on her and kill her.

(20) Revelation 13:1-3. In the process of killing the harlot Mystery Babylon, the false religious system, somehow the Antichrist is killed and gets “a deadly wound” that is healed. In chapter 12 Satan himself is cast out of heaven, where he has been “the accuser of our brethren,” and now he enters Antichrist’s body and resurrects him to a new and even more vicious life.

(21) Revelation 13:4-10. Antichrist, now incarnated, will force the remaining people of the earth to worship him, except those whose names are in the Lamb’s Book of Life (see 2 Thessalonians 2:8-10).

(22) Revelation 13:11-18. The False Prophet will replace the slain religious system, forcing people to worship Antichrist and his image, or be killed. Everyone will be compelled to display a 666 mark in order to hold a job and “buy and sell.”

(23) Revelation 16:1-2. The first vial causes giant sores on those who rejected Christ and instead accepted the mark of the Beast, signifying their worship of him.

(24) Revelation 16:3. The second vial is poured out on the sea, turning it “to blood as of a dead man; and every living creature in the sea died.”

(25) Revelation 16:4. The third vial turns the rivers and other sources of water to blood (an especially just judgment because the people remaining had killed so many Tribulation saints).

(26) Revelation 16:8-9. The fourth vial will intensify the sun’s heat until ungodly men blaspheme the name of God.

(27) Revelation 16:10-11. The fifth vial will cause darkness to cover the throne of Antichrist and his entire kingdom. The sores will continue unrelentingly, producing such agony that men will gnaw their tongues for pain and blaspheme God and refuse to repent.

(28) Revelation 16:13-16. The sixth vial sends lying demon spirits out to the kings of the whole world to bring them down to “the battle of that great day of God Almighty,” more popularly known as the Battle of Armageddon.

(29) Revelation 16:17-21. The seventh vial result sin a judgment of Almighty God that destroys the entire world system and judges all unsaved men severely. But even though enormous hailstones fall, the unregenerate still refuse to repent. This judgment is so devastating that it prepares the world for the coming of Christ to set up His earthly kingdom.

(30) Revelation 18:1-24. The destruction of commercial and governmental Babylon—the New World Order for which man has yearned ever since his rebellion at Babylon—now occurs, possibly during the seventh vial since it fits there (verse 19) just before earth’s final judgment. It will totally collapse the Antichrist’s system and further pave the way for the best event of the Tribulation.

(31) Revelation 19:11-21. We finally witness the Glorious Appearing of Christ in Power and Great Glory as King of kings and Lord of lords to set up His thousand-year reign on this earth.
I dont know about you, but knowing this is coming, I wouldn't want to be here on earth during that 7 year period! The great thing about Revelation is just that, God is revealing to all mankind of whats going to happen so no one is blindsided. No surprises. He's telling everyone to repent of their sins and trust in Him for their salvation. Those who dont have no excuse, they will choose to reject the message of salvation through Jesus and will go through this terrible time with eyes wide open. Those who do reject Gods free gift of salvation will have a second chance during the 7 year tribulation to accept Him and to spend eternity in heaven but they will probably die in the judgments that will strike the earth or they will be hunted down and executed by anti-christ. I dont think its very smart to have to go through all of that. But thats just me.
 
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confused453

Active Member
It won't be a person, but a virus! A virus that will erase the concept of believing in supernatural deities from human brains. We'll call it Anti-Christ-Virus.
 

Kapalika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Supposing that Christianity is true, I would think that most Christians would easily follow the anti Christ who would pose as Jesus as the second coming. I think that Fundamentalists and Evangelicals would be among those duped seeing as a lot of their theology is based on revisionism and weird interpretations of their Bible. This would also be evident because they are among some of the most popular branches and in their own theology most self identified Christians would be fooled.

However even the belief in Revelations as being a literal prophecy of something in our future is a rather modern revisionist interpretation. If you go by the original interpretation, these events already transpired. Rome was Babylon and Nero was the Beast. I'm not sure if the rise of the Catholic Church would be the 1,000 year reign but it just occurred to me that that would fit as well.

Either way I don't think it's a discussion worth having because the idea that Christ will return is easily refutable once you understand the historical understanding and context of Revelations.
 

SethZaddik

Active Member
To answer this question we must know what the main attributes of the Antichrist is.
He must be a murderer
He must be a hater
He must be a deceiver
He must oppress
He must be a liar
He must demand worship

The only being that fits these attributes to a t is ALLAH!

You think God is the Antichrist?

Weird. If you didn't know, Allah is the Arabic way of saying capital G- God, used by Arab Christians too.

You aren't very bright.

Allah is the same God as of Abraham, Isaac/Ishmael and Jacob. Moses, Jesus and Mohammed.

Antichrist is a non Biblical prophecy. Islam does have a prophecy about the Antichrist, but I won't touch on it here.

I only wish to inform that Abrahamic religions, Judaism, Christianity and Islam all have the same God and all theologians who have a shred of honesty in them will say the same thing.

Why don't you save the mundane rhetoric and just say you hate Islam, Muslims and don't believe we have the right to worship God/Allah.

Also, the Antichrist, again not a Biblical prophecy, is obviously not God himself.

Ya hateful creep.
 
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SethZaddik

Active Member
Supposing that Christianity is true, I would think that most Christians would easily follow the anti Christ who would pose as Jesus as the second coming. I think that Fundamentalists and Evangelicals would be among those duped seeing as a lot of their theology is based on revisionism and weird interpretations of their Bible. This would also be evident because they are among some of the most popular branches and in their own theology most self identified Christians would be fooled.

However even the belief in Revelations as being a literal prophecy of something in our future is a rather modern revisionist interpretation. If you go by the original interpretation, these events already transpired. Rome was Babylon and Nero was the Beast. I'm not sure if the rise of the Catholic Church would be the 1,000 year reign but it just occurred to me that that would fit as well.

Either way I don't think it's a discussion worth having because the idea that Christ will return is easily refutable once you understand the historical understanding and context of Revelations.

Ahhh...A reasonable and intelligent soul.

Christians already rejected Jesus once when they adopted the Pauline theology extracted from his hideous writings and turned Jesus into a profitable human sacrifice then deified him who said God was greater than himself in the Gospels thus, can not be God.

And these people turned from the Father-God teachings of Jesus and against his stated desire not to be deified, deified him.

So if this God-Jesus never existed, he won't be returning because he never came.

Hypothetically speaking if he did return Christians would treat him as a false prophet because he would expose Paul, their real Messiah.
 

capumetu

Active Member
The term antichrist is only mentioned a few times in the Bible. There are multiple antichrists, and were on the scene when John penned it. The apostasy was already starting prior to the end of the first century.

There is no antichrist that is going to appear on the scene in these last days.

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Rapture Era

Active Member
What makes you suppose the antichrist to be a single individual?
Because the biblical scriptures describe him and the false prophet as such. They both are also thrown into the lake of fire alive according to the scriptures.
 
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