Although you still haven't dealt with many of the Scriptural issues I raised against some of your interpretations several pages back, I am happy to deal with the Scriptural objections you have raised in your last couple posts.
I think you minimise others importance and exaggerate your own. I've seen you do it on another thread and that's exactly your attitude in your discussions with me. I don't know what world you come from and where you live but in this world we are two souls that are choosing to engage in a discussion by mutual consent.
The disciples of Jesus in some ways were not a particularly enlightened group of people. They had petty squabbles about who was the greatest, they often struggled to understand what Jesus was telling them, and His appointed successor Peter, He rebuked calling him Satan! Then sure enough when the going got tough Peter denied Him thrice, as Jesus said He would. After Pentacost they were filled with a Power that was not of this world and completely transformed. With Divine assistance and confirmation they were able to spread the Gospels far and wide throughout the regions.
One of the best beloved of all things in the sight of God is justice. We need to treat others fairly, with compassion, and to be reasonable.
Once again you need to look at my posts and see that I have answered quite a few of your questions in a reasoned manner, often referring to scripture or giving direct quotes.
You have asked so many questions that it is unreasonable to expect me to answer them all from a simple matter of time. I'm a busy person with a busy life. So recognising that clearly applies for us both, we need to be focused. In regards to the topic of this thread I have explained John 14:6 and responded to the first 3 out of the 10 verses you provided as a counter argument. I appreciate that I may not have answered that to your satisfaction but I suspect you will never be satisfied. Why do I say that. Because I am an adherent to another religious faith and you appear to be a Christian fundamentalist.
I look forward to responding comprehensively.
I look forward to hearing your response. Truly I do.
I did read it, but your response was vague and did not answer any of the direct questions I posed to you. Those direct questions were designed to reveal where you stood on the Scripture. When you didn't answer them, I asked for clarification again.
I think we've done this issue to death, don't you?
I've learned you can't take anything for granted when it comes to issues like this. People can say they believe the Bible, and appeal to it as an authority source for truth, but then when confronted with parts of the Bible that disagree with their viewpoint they reveal they actually don't believe all of it -only the parts that agree with them.
It's a lot easier to know this upfront, saving time in the conversation
I wonder if we have a different approach to people. I assume that people are basically good regardless of their background, faith, colour, gender, nationality, financial status etc. I don't think you start from that point. If you do, you haven't with me. I suspect that you are not too happy that I have started a thread on this forum challenging religious bigotry disguised as being something from God.
Because you may not be aware of this, but even amongst those who call themselves Christians you can never be sure to what extent they believe in the truth contained in the Bible.
I talk to many people and many Christians. Most people that identify themselves as Christian where I come from don't know the bible so well. Some do.
You've hardly answered any of the questions I put forth over several pages.
You are being repetitive again and unfair.
The whole reason I had to keep asking you for clarification on how you regard the Bible is because you weren't giving me direct answers to the questions I asked.
I also posed many direct questions about your interpretation of Scripture, in light of other Scriptures, which you ignored in most cases. Or you might have responded, but then ignored the followup which further shot holes in your viewpoint of Scripture.
Haven't we moved on from this? You asked me to show you the errors of your ways. I did. I've moved on and so should you. Its called overlooking the faults of others. I have many. You may have more than you think you do. Lets get over ourselves.
There's a world of difference between me posing a question to you for the simple purpose of accurately understanding what your frame of reference is, versus you posing three questions that are completely unrelated to this thread whose stated purpose is to only to smugly determine whether or not you think I'm reasonable enough for you to debate with.
There's no difference actually. I suspect the difference is you feel you have the right to question me, but don't believe I have the right to question you.
You declared my questions irrelevant and then asked a whole lot more of me! The questions I asked you are simple questions and I could answer them in a few minutes. If you really knew your bible you would be able to as well.
As I pointed out, you're in no position to be judging my ability to soundly reason Scripture when you haven't even been able to demonstrate why your beliefs about Scripture are not obviously contradicted by other Scriptures I've presented.
You have wanted to know about my beliefs in the bible. I answered. You should reciprocate. Its called compromise.
I'll let my reasoning of Scripture speak for itself, and your lack of ability to respond with reasoned Scripture also speak for itself.
Your certainly have stated repetitively with abundant clarity the low opinion you hold of me, and the great esteem which you view yourself. Where's the love and humility?
To reiterate, three criteria for our discussions:
(1) Courtesy and respect
(2) Capacity for reason
(3) Acknowledgement of the authority and authenticity of the Bible
