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Shouldn't the second coming of christ be upon us by now
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angellous_evangellous
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ProfLogic said:
Beats the heck out of me. I figured that the best way to locate him was to find out who the founder of the Organization of African Unity, which is now the African Union (behold the mighty wiki). No single founder is credited as founder, and none of them are famous.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organization_of_African_Unity
http://www.africa-union.org/root/au/AboutAU/FOUNDERS/oau_Founders.htm
joeboonda
Well-Known Member
Paul taught that 'we would not all sleep (die), but some of us (Christians) would be alive and remain when Christ returns for the Church (the Rapture, not the 2nd Coming). Paul understood the time of his departure, by death, was near and said so. Paul also comforted the Thessalonians that the 'day of the Lord' had not arrived yet, that there would be a 'falling away' first, and the 'man of perdition' - the anti-christ would be revealed before the 2nd Coming.
2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
(King James Bible, 2 Thessalonians)
Jesus spoke of all these terrible things, as only 'birth-pangs' for what was to come (The Great Seven Year Tribulation).
Listen to this warning of what it would be like in the Last Days:
3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
Seems to me we are getting closer to His Return, possibly in this generation, and I bet I am right!
2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
(King James Bible, 2 Thessalonians)
Jesus spoke of all these terrible things, as only 'birth-pangs' for what was to come (The Great Seven Year Tribulation).
Listen to this warning of what it would be like in the Last Days:
3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
Seems to me we are getting closer to His Return, possibly in this generation, and I bet I am right!
Scuba Pete
Le plongeur avec attitude...
Didn't you get the memo???ProfLogic said:
II Peter 3:8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. 10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare. NIV
NetDoc said:
Well with all the molestation in and out of certain religions, I would have returned to straigntened the leaders by now. Why should you be patient if the innocence are lost daily due to this occurrences. There is no sense of saving them since they are physically dead already and their violaters are alive as they can be.
Scuba Pete
Le plongeur avec attitude...
You might have a point, but if you comb your right no one can see it. Your point, I mean.ProfLogic said:
SoyLeche said:
What's not factual the molestation in some religions, coul d you go and talk to the vatican about it there is now an admittance in the cover up. Abused stepping forward and changes in the church's policy. How do you know I am not god, did it tell you? Ask it again and pray deeply this time, you might see the answer.
SoyLeche said:
On top of this, if it can not see that molestation causes suffering and almost permanent damage then, it needs to have itself replaced. If it hasn't spoken by now and especially to some of the faithful who comitted these societal crimes, then it will never come.
SoyLeche said:
Molestation is irrelevant to you and Red Herring hmmm so that is why there were some priest that are in jail. Must be an imagination.. an imaginary jail cell. Second the vatican changing policies and re-educate their priest about molestation... red herring.. You are the one that says read and you yourself do not. Is it accepted in your life to molest of something?
Scuba Pete
Le plongeur avec attitude...
So, your contention is that molestation happens ONLY in a church. That it doesn't happen anywhere else. AND that the church promotes such actions.ProfLogic said:
So your use of "Logic" in your user name is just like calling the biggest guy you know "Tiny"? Well it makes far more sense now.