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Is Jesus Christ true man AND true God?

bnabernard

Member
Assumptions in the bible?
Well Jesus pretty much said don't trust anything or anyone after him, however we seem to assume that people who wrote text and decided content for the new testament were trustworthy, er, because?
 
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bnabernard

Member
Yes, I am sure of that because I talk to the spirit of Ama. He resides in your heart also.

You are wrong to what you hear. In Filipino, it states: "Ang makinig sa sabi-sabi, walang bait na sarili." ("He who hears what is said, he does not have his own intelligence.") So be discerning.

My question, please.

Over here in England we simply say ''don't believe everything you hear'' a saying born out of the spirit of wisdom and hard knocks.

However your spirit of Ama, reliable is it?

How do you check the spirit of Vodafone, recognition of the voice?
How do you discern the spirit of the paper you read.

Come on get with it,
 

peacecrusader888

Active Member
What is Ama?

Who is Ama? Ama is a spirit, a holy spirit, and if you will believe it, THE Holy Spirit. Most, if not all, of His listeners, believe that He is Jesus Christ Himself. We (plural) can not see Him or touch Him, but we can hear Him. We record on audio tape our conversations with Him which we call Sessions.

The word "ama" in the Philippine language means "father". When capitalized, that is, "Ama", it refers to "God the Father". We call Him Ama and He calls us His children.

I first heard Him in 1983 when I first went to the Session Hall. I doubted that He is Jesus Christ for eleven years (1983-1994). You may read my aboutface in 1994 in http://aristean.org/wp113.htm titled "From doubt to belief". He said that Jesus Christ was born on 05-23 and died on 08-17.

In 1999, five years after I believed, I doubted Him again. I said to myself that if His revelations of the birth and crucifixion of Jesus were wrong, I would renounce my belief and declare Him to be fraud. By 2006, after extensive studies, I have proved that both of them are correct. That is why, as 2 Corinthians 4:13 states, "I believed, and therefore have I spoken".
 

peacecrusader888

Active Member
Over here in England we simply say ''don't believe everything you hear'' a saying born out of the spirit of wisdom and hard knocks.

However your spirit of Ama, reliable is it?

How do you check the spirit of Vodafone, recognition of the voice?
How do you discern the spirit of the paper you read.

Come on get with it,

The spirit of Ama said that it is common to "Doubt first before you believe,"

Why did I believe that He is Jesus Christ and that He is the Holy Spirit? First is because He is a spirit. Second is that He is male. He revealed that Jesus Christ was born on 05-23 and was crucified and died on 08-17. I doubted Him in 1999 when I started to check these revelations. I said to myself that if they were wrong, I would renounce my faith in Him. By 2006, after extensive studies, I have proved that both revelations are correct. There are several more reasons why I believe that He is the Holy Spirit but I think the above may suffice in the meantime.
 

bnabernard

Member
Next time you're having a chat ask him why he said thy kingdom come on earth as it is in heaven. You know considering the devil was in heaven and causing disruption recruiting other angels to his side.

And as an afterthought ask him why he said to trust nothing and nobody after he was gone, after al if he was to select people to converse with, as you say he does, we are warned not to trust you.
Just a thought.
 

Reggie Miller

Well-Known Member
Who is Ama? Ama is a spirit, a holy spirit, and if you will believe it, THE Holy Spirit. Most, if not all, of His listeners, believe that He is Jesus Christ Himself. We (plural) can not see Him or touch Him, but we can hear Him. We record on audio tape our conversations with Him which we call Sessions.

The word "ama" in the Philippine language means "father". When capitalized, that is, "Ama", it refers to "God the Father". We call Him Ama and He calls us His children.

I first heard Him in 1983 when I first went to the Session Hall. I doubted that He is Jesus Christ for eleven years (1983-1994). You may read my aboutface in 1994 in http://aristean.org/wp113.htm titled "From doubt to belief". He said that Jesus Christ was born on 05-23 and died on 08-17.

In 1999, five years after I believed, I doubted Him again. I said to myself that if His revelations of the birth and crucifixion of Jesus were wrong, I would renounce my belief and declare Him to be fraud. By 2006, after extensive studies, I have proved that both of them are correct. That is why, as 2 Corinthians 4:13 states, "I believed, and therefore have I spoken".

Have you never read, Matthew 24:26

"Therefore, if they shall say unto you, ‘Behold, He is in the desert!’ go not forth; or ‘Behold, He is in the secret chambers!’ believe it not."

The real Holy Spirit is trying to remind you of this scripture and ones like it, I believe.
 

bnabernard

Member
Unfortunately Reggie we are left with a certain confusion here as Mathew post dates the man of Jesus and was part of a compilation of scriptures designated by what I think are refereed to as holy 'fathers' a conclave in an inner sanctum pressed to deliver uniformity by Constantine.The genral belief being that they were guided by a holy or rather, The Holy spirit.
 

peacecrusader888

Active Member
Have you never read, Matthew 24:26

"Therefore, if they shall say unto you, ‘Behold, He is in the desert!’ go not forth; or ‘Behold, He is in the secret chambers!’ believe it not."

The real Holy Spirit is trying to remind you of this scripture and ones like it, I believe.

I am not recruiting anyone. I am just telling you what I and other listeners believe based on our experiences.

How would you know that the spirit of Ama is the true Holy Spirit?
 

peacecrusader888

Active Member
Next time you're having a chat ask him why he said thy kingdom come on earth as it is in heaven. You know considering the devil was in heaven and causing disruption recruiting other angels to his side.

And as an afterthought ask him why he said to trust nothing and nobody after he was gone, after al if he was to select people to converse with, as you say he does, we are warned not to trust you.
Just a thought.

Matthew 6:10 states: "Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven."

What is it in Heaven that should be applied to earth? There is peace in Heaven.

Luzbelle was the only female archangel in Heaven. She rebelled, so she, together with other angels who sided with her, was expelled by her twin brother, Michael, from Heaven. She because Lucifer or Satan. There is now peace in Heaven, and this is what the earth should have.

Please cite your "afterthought". Remember, I am not recruiting anyone.
 
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peacecrusader888

Active Member
Unfortunately Reggie we are left with a certain confusion here as Mathew post dates the man of Jesus and was part of a compilation of scriptures designated by what I think are refereed to as holy 'fathers' a conclave in an inner sanctum pressed to deliver uniformity by Constantine.The genral belief being that they were guided by a holy or rather, The Holy spirit.

What Emperor Constantine did maybe in God's plan. I do not know. I am just speculating why suddenly, the Roman Empire, became Christian.
 

bnabernard

Member
Matthew 6:10 states: "Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven."

What is it in Heaven that should be applied to earth? There is peace in Heaven.

Luzbelle was the only female archangel in Heaven. She rebelled, so she, together with other angels who sided with her, was expelled by her twin brother, Michael, from Heaven. She because Lucifer or Satan. There is now peace in Heaven, and this is what the earth should have.

Please cite your "afterthought". Remember, I am not recruiting anyone.

Well I reckon there might be a scripture refering to other Jesus's and other teachings that you might like to consider, no doubt Reggie could help you there.
But put simply your explanations bear no witness to any writings that I have come across, I am fully aware that head knowledge post deluge and post Babylon scattered throughout the continents would have distorted variations on a theme, in the case of Jesus we base a foundation on the Hebrew texts written and oral,
Perhaps you could give your source of text which runs counter to the Hebrew.

Ref: your citation, while you may not be interested in recruitment, how about your source that has your captivation, has that no interest in recruitment?
 

peacecrusader888

Active Member
Jesus never mentioned any spirit of Ama. He did, however, make the statement I quoted above.

Jesus made that statement on Matthew 24:26 to wit: "Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not."

I have told you that I believed in 1994 after eleven year of doubt. In 1999, when I started to check His revelations that Jesus was born on 05-23 and died on 08-17, I doubted Him again. After seven years of studies, I found both of them are correct. Who can give such ancient dates, and be correct? Only God!
 

Reggie Miller

Well-Known Member
Jesus made that statement on Matthew 24:26 to wit: "Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not."

I have told you that I believed in 1994 after eleven year of doubt. In 1999, when I started to check His revelations that Jesus was born on 05-23 and died on 08-17, I doubted Him again. After seven years of studies, I found both of them are correct. Who can give such ancient dates, and be correct? Only God!

If they are verifiable as you say they are, how do you know he didn't just do the same as you and come up with the same numbers?
 

peacecrusader888

Active Member
If they are verifiable as you say they are, how do you know he didn't just do the same as you and come up with the same numbers?

You may check what I have done in my website. He was the first one who revealed that Jesus was born on 05-23 and died on 08-17 to old listeners, In 1983, these old listeners told me about the revelations of the spirit of Ama. Sixteen years later, I checked the revelations. So it was Ama who revealed it first and I just checked it.
 

Reggie Miller

Well-Known Member
You may check what I have done in my website. He was the first one who revealed that Jesus was born on 05-23 and died on 08-17 to old listeners, In 1983, these old listeners told me about the revelations of the spirit of Ama. Sixteen years later, I checked the revelations. So it was Ama who revealed it first and I just checked it.

Hmm... You show me where Ama is mentioned in the NT and I might give this some serious consideration. However, I've read it numerous times and never have seen the word. Hmm...
 

peacecrusader888

Active Member
Hmm... You show me where Ama is mentioned in the NT and I might give this some serious consideration. However, I've read it numerous times and never have seen the word. Hmm...

I have not found the word "Ama" in the entire Holy Bible, that is why I doubted Him as the Holy Spirit for eleven years from 1983 to 1994. He hinted though that He is Jesus Christ, like "when I was crucified", "My mother Mary", "My disciples Peter, Matthew", and others. The story about Jesus is in the New Testament. I also noticed that His prophecies were coming true. In spite of these, I remained doubtful because what is at stake was my very own soul which I believe will live forever either in Heaven or in Hell. Then in 1994, I made an aboutface. You may read my aboutface in http://aristean.org/wp113.htm .
 
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