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Changing the Bible

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
That is a strange verse to try and prove the Bible is not God's word. Even if the devil knows God word, he never uses it accurately. The father of lies, will always lie about it like he did to Eve.
The very Bible you put on a pedestal SAYS Jesus* is God's Word.

I think you are a mole.

*Not his real name
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
OK. I understand

I would ask Joseph of Arimathea about that.

I was spirit then, he could not see me.

That might mean zombie.

There is no such thing as zombies.

My understanding is it happens only at the end, just like God says, "he who endures to the end is saved".

What does Matthew 24:13 mean to you?

It means I will endure to the end and God will makes sure I do(Phil 1:6 & Heb 12:2) .
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Since you reject inspiration, how do you know it is truth?
You are so cute! I never once said I reject inspiration. I even say, "Jesus says" sometimes.

How do I know what truth I know is truth? Is that the question?

I think Romans 8:16 is written wrong.

The Holy Spirit bears witness with my spirit what is to be believed of God.

A son or a child is every truth from God. Every word God gives us is likened to God's child.
A child is something conceived and then nurtured.

God is able to distinguish all of God's children.

And God is generous to make me know all God's children. I don't deserve it.
It is more wonderful than anything. I am sure.
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
You are so cute! I never once said I reject inspiration. I even say, "Jesus says" sometimes.

But you do right? you need to say Jesus says all the time, not some of the time.

How do I know what truth I know is truth? Is that the question?

Yes.

I think Romans 8:16 is written wrong.

Why?

The Holy Spirit bears witness with my spirit what is to be believed of God.

Right and it all comes out of God's inspired word.

A son or a child is every truth from God. Every word God gives us is likened to God's child.
A child is something conceived and then nurtured.

If it isn't in the Bible, how do you know it is from God?

God is able to distinguish all of God's children.

OK, whatgs your point?
 

allfoak

Alchemist
You are half fight. We all do have the breath of God in us, but unless the person has the indwelling Holy Spirit, they are in incapable of having any original spiritual inspiration.
The Holy Spirit is within us all.
It is the breath of God.

What is lacking is man's knowledge of who we are.
We were made in the image of the one who made us.
This is reference to a holographic reality.
This means we are made from the same substance that created us.
Science has already confirmed this.
Matter is an interference pattern that occurs within the substance from which all things are made.

"We may therefore regard matter as being constituted by the regions of space in which the field is extremely intense. ...There is no place in this new kind of physics both for the field and matter, for the field is the only reality."
is as follows:
Einstein, Albert. Quoted in Capek, M. The Philosophical Impact of Contemporary Physics. (Princeton, N.J.: D. Van Nostrand, 1961). p. 319.

Christains use a quasi fictional character and an allegory that represents the very same thing that science is telling us is true.
the kingdom of heaven is within you.

There are only two occurrences of this word in the new testament.

Matthew 23:26 KJV
Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.

And...

Luke 17:21 KJV
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

I think the scripture makes it clear the importance of who we are and where knowledge comes from.
We were not born a blank slate but rather we were born with all the knowledge we need to live the life we came here to live.
The Holy Spirit is our birthright.
 
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omega2xx

Well-Known Member
Why won't you please put on your thinking cap?
You believe the Bible was written and didn't poof into existence. Correct?

Correct

How did the writers know "what God says"?

Do you really think the One who created the universe out of nothing, is not powerful enough to influence the mind of those He inspired to write the Bible. If you don' 'think He can do that, your God is too small.
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
The Holy Spirit is within us all.
It is the breath of God.

The Holy Spirit is not the breath of God.

What is lacking is man's knowledge of who we are.

No it isn't.

We were made in the image of the one who made us.
This is reference to a holographic reality.

No it isn't.

This means we are made from the same substance that created us.
Science has already confirmed this.

No it hasn't

Matter is an interference pattern that occurs within the substance from which all things are made.

No it isn't

Christains use a quasi fictional character and an allegory that represents the very same thing that science is telling us is true.
the kingdom of heaven is within you.

No they aren't and science does not tell us that.

There are only two occurrences of this word in the new testament.

Irrerlevant.

Matthew 23:26 KJV
Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.

How do we clean the inside?

And...

Luke 17:21 KJV
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

That is a questionable translation. Better is "the kingdom of God is in your midst.

I think the scripture makes it clear the importance of who we are and where knowledge comes from.

You are half right. The major theme of the Bible is not us or knowledge. It is the person and work Of Jesus. You Are right about where knowledge comes from.

We were not born a blank slate but rather we were born with all the knowledge we need to live the life we came here to live.

No we weren't


The Holy Spirit is our birthright.

No He isn't
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Correct



Do you really think the One who created the universe out of nothing, is not powerful enough to influence the mind of those He inspired to write the Bible. If you don' 'think He can do that, your God is too small.
I really do think that you must be kidding.

YOU say God is not knowable without the Bible. And I say the people who wrote what you say are God's words didn't have a Bible.

Please listen. Can you? I have never said that people could not have written what God told them to write. Did you hear that? I say that all the Bible which means every translated word is not what God has said.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The Holy Spirit is not the breath of God.
These words of yours give you away as someone who doesn't know what he is talking about.

I think you believe the Bible is all God's words because it is written that"all scripture is God breathed".
Of course, every word of God has appeared via The Holy Spirit. Isn't that right?
But God's words are called God breathed.

By saying that The Holy Spirit is not the breath of God you are contradicting your own opinion, which is funny.

I think you do not mean to be funny.

Am I right?
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
I really do think that you must be kidding.

Why?

YOU say God is not knowable without the Bible. And I say the people who wrote what you say are God's words didn't have a Bible.


OK, how do you know God without the Bible?

Please listen. Can you? I have never said that people could not have written what God told them to write. Did you hear that? I say that all the Bible which means every translated word is not what God has said.

OK, I paid careful Attention. Now it is your turn---How do you determine which words in the Bible God did say?
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
These words of yours give you away as someone who doesn't know what he is talking about.

Right agree with the omniscient one or you don't know what you are talking about. How self-serving.

I think you believe the Bible is all God's words because it is written that"all scripture is God breathed".

You finally got something right. Congratulations.

Of course, every word of God has appeared via The Holy Spirit. Isn't that right?

No. What makes you think so?

But God's words are called God breathed.

2 things right in one post. You are on a roll.

By saying that The Holy Spirit is not the breath of God you are contradicting your own opinion, which is funny.

I have not contradicted my own opinion. You just think I have because you don't really understand what I am saying.


I think you do not mean to be funny.

Am I right?

3 things right in one post. I believe in miracles.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Right agree with the omniscient one or you don't know what you are talking about. How self-serving.



You finally got something right. Congratulations.



No. What makes you think so?



2 things right in one post. You are on a roll.



I have not contradicted my own opinion. You just think I have because you don't really understand what I am saying.




3 things right in one post. I believe in miracles.
I have to start thinking about a new kind of person who thinks that God can do without The Holy Spirit.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Why?



OK, how do you know God without the Bible?



OK, I paid careful Attention. Now it is your turn---How do you determine which words in the Bible God did say?
The same way those who wrote it knew what they wrote were Gods words.
 
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