Abrahamics Only: Convince Me Jesus is the Messiah

Go ahead, give it your best shot. Make a convincing arguement that Jesus was the Messiah. Like Paul was doing as he traveled around the civilized world.

Acts 28:23 So a time was set, and on that day a large number of people came to Paul's lodging. He explained and testified about the Kingdom of God and tried to persuade them about Jesus from the Scriptures. Using the law of Moses and the books of the prophets, he spoke to them from morning until evening.

do you have a set of qualifications?

Kemosloby said:

Go ahead, give it your best shot. Make a convincing arguement that Jesus was the Messiah. Like Paul was doing as he traveled around the civilized world.

Acts 28:23 So a time was set, and on that day a large number of people came to Paul's lodging. He explained and testified about the Kingdom of God and tried to persuade them about Jesus from the Scriptures. Using the law of Moses and the books of the prophets, he spoke to them from morning until evening.

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Alright then. Meet me on Skype and I will persuade you that Jesus is the Messiah using most books of the Old Testament. Pick a day and we will talk from 7 AM to 5:30 PM CST. But let it be within seven days from now because I have to travel to Macedonia and Corinth.

Talmai said:

Alright then. Meet me on Skype and I will persuade you that Jesus is the Messiah using most books of the Old Testament. Pick a day and we will talk from 7 AM to 5:30 PM CST. But let it be within seven days from now because I have to travel to Macedonia and Corinth.

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No Skype, just pick one talking point.

Kemosloby said:

No Skype, just pick one talking point.

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I'm not actually serious, by the way.

Proselytizing is against the rules, and arguing in RF dirs is, too. I think it is significant that Acts says it takes Paul all day, and he still isn't able to gain much ground. Maybe it is a complicated subject. There are also multiple ways to read and interpret verses in Acts. In the end we can offer opinions in the dirs but not a lot of arguments.

Brickjectivity said:

Proselytizing is against the rules, and arguing in RF dirs is, too. I think it is significant that Acts says it takes Paul all day, and he still isn't able to gain much ground. Maybe it is a complicated subject. There are also multiple ways to read and interpret verses in Acts. In the end we can offer opinions in the dirs but not a lot of arguments.

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Argument meaning, A rationale for believing Christ is the Messiah. Is that OK?

This definition: a reason or set of reasons given with the aim of persuading others that an action or idea is right or wrong.

let's see.....
walk on water.....raise the dead
storm fades by a wave of the hand
blind see
lame walk
dead men too

if He was not qualified....
the rest of us are screwed

Kemosloby said:

Argument meaning, A rationale for believing Christ is the Messiah. Is that OK?

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It doesn't really work in the dir, because you wind up discussing Judaism and cross rule 10. Many Christians include denunciations of Judiasm in their rationale, which attracts Jewish comments in the wrong Dir. Also people, very well meaning, tend to declare what everyone else should think or that their idea is better. One says that Jesus is God and another that Jesus is God's son; and each feels so strongly about it that conversation breaks down. So we reserve the debate areas for convincing people of things. This area is for people who already agree to be Christian and is for gathering ideas, praying etc.

Thief said:

let's see.....
walk on water.....raise the dead
storm fades by a wave of the hand
blind see
lame walk
dead men too

if He was not qualified....
the rest of us are screwed

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Yeah but preferably by the law of Moses, like Paul was doing.

Brickjectivity said:

It doesn't really work in the dir, because you wind up discussing Judaism and cross rule 10. Many Christians include denunciations of Judiasm in their rationale, which attracts Jewish comments in the wrong Dir. Also people, very well meaning, tend to declare what everyone else should think or that their idea is better. One says that Jesus is God and another that Jesus is God's son; and each feels so strongly about it that conversation breaks down. So we reserve the debate areas for convincing people of things. This area is for people who already agree to be Christian and is for gathering ideas, praying etc.

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Christianity is tied to the Old testament, which is why it is in the bible. The intent of the thread is to gather ideas from the old testament which proves Christ is the Messiah. Totally Christian.

Kemosloby said:

Yeah but preferably by the law of Moses, like Paul was doing.


Christianity is tied to the Old testament, which is why it is in the bible. The intent of the thread is to gather ideas from the old testament which proves Christ is the Messiah. Totally Christian.

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scripture based dialog?......you should have chosen another category to post under

How about those parables?
items of mind and heart

if you stand before heaven without them .....in your mind and heart
will God and heaven approve? .....of your mind and heart

Thief said:

scripture based dialog?......you should have chosen another category to post under

How about those parables?
items of mind and heart

if you stand before heaven without them .....in your mind and heart
will God and heaven approve? .....of your mind and heart

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No i think this is good. There is a Christian way and a Judaism way of looking at the old testament. I want to hear the Christian way that sees Jesus as the Messiah, without it being derailed by non Christians.

Kemosloby said:

No i think this is good. There is a Christian way and a Judaism way of looking at the old testament. I want to hear the Christian way that sees Jesus as the Messiah, without it being derailed by non Christians.

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besides the parables.....He did miracles.

there is not much else to offer.....

Thief said:

besides the parables.....He did miracles.

there is not much else to offer.....

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The miracles had meaning though, he wasn't just doing tricks. Also there were many connections to the old testament, such as the lamb of God being the Passover lamb. Anything to do with a Rock in the old testament probably refers to Christ.

Exodus 17:6
"Behold, I will stand before you there on the rock at Horeb; and you shall strike the rock, and water will come out of it, that the people may drink." And Moses did so in the sight of the elders of Israel.

1 cor 10:4 and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.

because it was by miracle, water doesn't come out of rocks, Christ made the water come out of the rock. Symbolic of Jesus saving people from having to suffer thirst in hell,

John 4:14 but whoever drinks the water I give them will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give them will become in them a spring of water welling up to eternal life."

But those who don't might find this.
The Rich Man and Lazarus
…One day the beggar died and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s side. And the rich man also died and was buried. In Hades,where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham from afar, with Lazarus by his side. So he cried out, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue. For I am in agony in this fire.’…

and with that in mind.....what then is your Messiah?

Thief said:

and with that in mind.....what then is your Messiah?

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What you mean boss?

Kemosloby said:

What you mean boss?

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He said of Himself....brother and fellow servant

Thief said:

He said of Himself....brother and fellow servant

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Got a line for that?

Kemosloby said:

Got a line for that?

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well.....no....
it was in that incident when preaching and the crowd did notice.....
Do we not know this Man?
is not His brethren and mother among us?

and hearing of it.....He said....
They who do the will of my Father.......are my brothers and fellow servants

different bibles have different quotes

i also noticed.....when ever a crown was mentioned.....
He would leave

Kemosloby said:

Go ahead, give it your best shot. Make a convincing arguement that Jesus was the Messiah. Like Paul was doing as he traveled around the civilized world.

Acts 28:23 So a time was set, and on that day a large number of people came to Paul's lodging. He explained and testified about the Kingdom of God and tried to persuade them about Jesus from the Scriptures. Using the law of Moses and the books of the prophets, he spoke to them from morning until evening.

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I just reread your post and paid better attention.

"Go ahead, give it your best shot. Make a convincing arguement that Jesus was the Messiah. Like Paul was doing as he traveled around the civilized world."

O.K. Here is my BEST shot.
"NO!"

I'm not an ordained any kind of preacher and it's a bit unfair for you
or anyone to tempt those not qualified to "teach 'n preach" on the
internet.
I may know a bit about a few religions, especially Christianity because
I are one but I'm not qualified to teach religion.
I have two college degrees and and at one time maybe 15 certifications
to teach authorized by the State of Ohio but not in religious studies.
At best we can get OPINIONS from members here.
After a bit of time one learns which member(s) have something
worthwhile to share or consider.
Those members I trust to share good information are few.
I reserve the right to check out any information I get from members
here as should we all.
By the by. NONE OF US ARE "like Paul" as you wrote in your post.
Perhaps you meant "like Paul taught"? If so I'm fresh out of
an a s s to ride from place to place and spread the good news.
There are a few Christian religions that still believe in going from
house to house and "spread the good news".
Actually I think on the J.W.'s still do that.
Actually I don't think Paul went "door to door".
This makes clear that Paul did not try to convert people by preaching from house to house. His public teachings were carried out mainly in the Jewish synagogues.
Does God command Christians to go from door to door preaching the gospel?

But what ever.
To me, in my not at all humble way, I'd suggest you read all you can
and learn without the personal input of other's limited knowledge.
But please stick around and ask questions and comment.
Just understand I know of no "experts" or ordained ministers aboard.
I enjoy this site immensely.