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Question about the Unitarian church
- Thread starter Wu Wei
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No, not exactly.
Back in the 50s the Unitarian church and the Universalist church joined to form Unitarian Universalist church. But not every congregation joined. So there are still individual congregations of each, but most did join the UUA so there are more of those in the USA.
Tom
It appears that the Unitarian church is a Christian church who believes God is one being. Unitarian universalism seems to allow anyone from any religion or non religion, even atheists (according to wikipedia) So it's morphing together all religions and beliefs for the New World Order one world religion.
This post reminds me of a protestant explaining Catholicism based on Wikipedia.
Tom
Both the Unitarian and Universalist denominations were Christians responding to "The Great Awakening" with Enlightenment values. For an overview of The Great Awakening google Jonathan Edwards's "Sinners in the hands of an Angry God" sermon.
Unitarians believed that there is only one God. Jesus was His main Prophet. Universalist were standard Trinitarians, but believed in an Almighty God who would provide Universal Salvation. Over the course of ~150 years both denominations remained small, and developed cultures which were less about theology and more about ethics than is normal for Christian denominations. Post WWII they decided to join forces because they found that ethics were the defining feature of the denominations and not the theology.
The biggest hurdles in joining the two were cultural. The Unitarians tended to be educated elitists, the Universalists rural and blue collar.
But they did and over time became increasingly inclusive. Instead of ones theology being a defining characteristic it is more like an interesting feature.
The UU fellowship I belonged to included everything from Buddhists to atheists to Christians. What matters is how you live, not what you believe.
Tom
Wow, that's not even Christianity to believe Jesus is merely a prophet, that's Islam.
Your ability to misunderstand things you've read a bit about on the internet is noted.
Tom
No I understand perfectly, that is not Christianity.
It's amazing how quickly Christianity becomes a tiny little cult when self described Christians start judging each other.
Tom
Jumi
Well-Known Member
Islam is quite a bit more than just that and I think Muslim members on RF would disagree that it's enough to just believe in God and Jesus to be Muslim? @Godobeyer @Smart_Guy
Yes, in Islam it's required to believe in Jesus(pbuh), to be a Muslim as messanger of God.
Or ceases to exist when people forget the most basic principal.
1 John 5:5 Who then overcomes the world? Only he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God.
Wu Wei
ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
Christianity argument aside, and I did not post this to start an argument. And as for the Islam bit, one should also know that Judaism looks at that trinity as heretical. But with that said I respectfully request that this argument be taken elsewhere to a thread of its own. I am looking for information not a fight and I would prefer this thread stay here for learning, thank you
Columbus
Thank you for the information, from what I have read about the Unitarian Universalist Church I find it quite interesting and as far as theology goes I tend to agree with it more.
Columbus
Thank you for the information, from what I have read about the Unitarian Universalist Church I find it quite interesting and as far as theology goes I tend to agree with it more.
What I mean is, if you believe Jesus was merely a prophet you're more a Muslim than a Christian.
UUA.org is the national website, last I knew.
The UUA put so much effort and resources into the Civil RIghts battles of the 60s they nearly schismed and went bankrupt. They really are very different from most Christian denominations.
Tom
Wu Wei
ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
I have been on a local UUA website and they have of the sermons on the site and I find them quite interesting. So far I like the differences. Thanks.
There was another thread here on RF that mentioned a difference between Unitarian Church and the Unitarian Universalist Church so that is where the question came from.
Something else about the UU.
The central authorities are really weak. It's not like most denominations, in that the UUA has next to no influence. So individual congregations vary more than in most denominations. In a town with more than one, the variation tends to be more pronounced because people who feel one way will go to one and people who feel differently will go to the other. Congregational culture varies a lot.
Tom
Jumi
Well-Known Member
Yes, but also Quran, Muhammed and other things.
That's not close to being true.
Oh but it is true.
1 John 2:22 Who is the liar, if it is not the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, who denies the Father and the Son.
Wu Wei
ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
Read "The Unitarian Universalist Pocket Guide" Edited by Rev. Peter Morales
And I still agree with their views and much they do, but they do seem to be very heavy in social and even the political arena. There is nothing wrong with that, actually I like the fact they are doing this, but I am not so sure how that effects the whole "religious" side of the coin at this point.
Also there are 3 groups around me and they do seem to be a bit different, although I have not been to all 3, just talking to some I know go there there does seem to be some differences. None however I would view as a negative.
And I still agree with their views and much they do, but they do seem to be very heavy in social and even the political arena. There is nothing wrong with that, actually I like the fact they are doing this, but I am not so sure how that effects the whole "religious" side of the coin at this point.
Also there are 3 groups around me and they do seem to be a bit different, although I have not been to all 3, just talking to some I know go there there does seem to be some differences. None however I would view as a negative.