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Ban the Bible and the Qur'an?

interminable

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Comparing books is a subjective activity. You have your OPINION and I have a different OPINION. We could potentially have interesting debates and discussions about our OPINIONS.

But Muslims often claim that their OPINIONS are FACTS. That's where the problems start. It is simply NOT A FACT that the Quran cannot be surpassed. It's only an OPINION.
Did I say my statement is a fact??

I just wonder how a person that doesn't know Arabic says a Persian book is better
While I know both and don't say that

That's a little unfair isn't it?
 

Kirran

Premium Member
Did I say my statement is a fact??

I just wonder how a person that doesn't know Arabic says a Persian book is better
While I know both and don't say that

That's a little unfair isn't it?

So how can one verify as a fact that a text is or is not "like the Qur'an"?

Consider: The Bhagavad Gita is beautiful poetry, contains a lot of depth and a philosophy suitable for a holistic way of life and is written with correct grammar and vocabulary in a very intricate language. Doesn't that make it at the very least "like the Qur'an"?
 

budha3

Member
Time doesn't doesn't change the truth. The truth is the truth no matter where you find it. This is a different time and the old testament does differ from the new testament, and that is where the update has occurred.
 

interminable

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That the experience of God far outweighs sitting there reading a book.
A great Shia gnostic says those who are deserved to open for them the door of manifestation and reality of this world and seeing god by heart will experience it in two situation

One of them is reading the Qur'an
 

Kirran

Premium Member
A great Shia gnostic says those who are deserved to open for them the door of manifestation and reality of this world and seeing god by heart will experience it in two situation

One of them is reading the Qur'an

Interesting, what's the other?
 

interminable

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Interesting, what's the other?
Being in a rozeh for imam husain pbuh

A cry for him will make u happy
We don't know what kind of tear is this!!!
U feel free u wanna fly
Others think we are crying but actually we experience a sense that is full of happiness


Please don't say anything because this is not logical and is completely emotional
 

Kirran

Premium Member
Being in a rozeh for imam husain pbuh

A cry for him will make u happy
We don't know what kind of tear is this!!!
U feel free u wanna fly
Others think we are crying but actually we experience a sense that is full of happiness


Please don't say anything because this is not logical and is completely emotional

What does rozeh mean?

Yes, I have experienced what you speak of here. It's not to be intellectually described.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
This word literally means garden but now is called for a ceremony or meeting for mourning on imam

Is that Arabic or Farsi?

This would be occurring on Ashura, but also just whenever people decide to get together throughout the year? I do have a lot of respect for Shi'ite traditions, it's managed to stay in touch more with the essence of the faith than the other prevailing orthodoxy in my view.
 

interminable

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Is that Arabic or Farsi?

This would be occurring on Ashura, but also just whenever people decide to get together throughout the year? I do have a lot of respect for Shi'ite traditions, it's managed to stay in touch more with the essence of the faith than the other prevailing orthodoxy in my view.
More than half of Persian language's words maybe is from Arabic

Every word that has ص ض ط ظ ع غ ث ذ
Are from Arabic

And yes every time they gather together is called روضه in Iran
 

interminable

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Is that Arabic or Farsi?

This would be occurring on Ashura, but also just whenever people decide to get together throughout the year? I do have a lot of respect for Shi'ite traditions, it's managed to stay in touch more with the essence of the faith than the other prevailing orthodoxy in my view.
More than half of Persian language's words maybe is from Arabic

Every word that has ص ض ط ظ ع غ ث ذ
Are from Arabic

And yes every time they gather together is called روضه in Iran
 

Kirran

Premium Member
More than half of Persian language's words maybe is from Arabic

Every word that has ص ض ط ظ ع غ ث ذ
Are from Arabic

And yes every time they gather together is called روضه in Iran

Cool, same script is used in Urdu. I can't read that either. It is a different script in हिंदी (see, it's confusing!) although I am able to read it in that case.
 

Not Bob

Member
No. I'm strongly opposed to banning any books. Books are knowledge and entire worlds unto themselves, which expand us. To ban them is to limit ourselves.
Agreed. Good education is a key factor in social development. It seems to me, and this is merely my opinion, that fundamentalist factions of these two religions tend to thrive where comprehensive and quality education is lacking.
 

Rapture Era

Active Member
Islam requires the oneness of love, tawheed, or tawhid.
What does that mean exactly?
Tawhid (Arabic: توحيد‎‎ tawḥīd, meaning the oneness [of God]"; also transliterated as Tawheed and Touheed) is the indivisible oneness concept of monotheism in Islam. Tawhid is the religion's most fundamental concept and holds that God (Allah, literally Al-Ilāh "the God") is One (Al-ʾAḥad) and Single (Al-Wāḥid).
Still dont see anything in the Quran that speaks of love and forgiveness to others.
 
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