A Universe from Nothing?

godnotgod · Nov 30, 2016

Thief said:
what I see here in this thread...is denial

reality is real

that's why it's called reality

there is no dualism

No, it's called 'reality' because people think perception is reality, in much the same way that the dreamer thinks his dream to be real. Some think that reality can be determined by dropping a brick on one's foot or banging their heads against the proverbial wall.

godnotgod · Nov 30, 2016

'mud said:
Ahhhhhh.......infinity.
That which is not contained,
and contains nothing !
Except the cursed duality !
Uni...meaning 'one' amongst the other 'verses',
One, in many.....could be seen there.
No Big Bang.....no true beginning.
~
Everything we can see, has no container.
So.....where ends infinity ?
Where's the beginning of nothingness ?
But we can't see that far yet !
I don't think everything comes from there !

You see the hedge against the hills;
you see the hills against the sky;
but you see the sky against Consciousness.

In Consciousness, there is no Time or Space;
It is infinite and vast, having no Beginning nor End.
It is Unborn, Uncaused, Unconditioned
Though it is the essence of Nothingness,
Everything comes out of it,
and returns to it.

`mud · Nov 30, 2016

SHAZZAM !!!!

godnotgod · Nov 30, 2016

'mud said:
SHAZZAM !!!!

“We live in illusion and the appearance of things. There is a reality. We are that reality. When you understand this, you see that you are nothing, and being nothing, you are everything. That is all.”

Kalu Rinpoche

Ben Dhyan · Nov 30, 2016

Thief said:
what I see here in this thread...is denial

reality is real

that's why it's called reality

there is no dualism

Yes....dualism is not real in the sense that it is absolute...but it is true in the sense it is a relative perspective, and thus can never apprehend the non-relative whole.

Thief · Nov 30, 2016

ben d said:
Yes....dualism is not real in the sense that it is absolute...but it is true in the sense it is a relative perspective, and thus can never apprehend the non-relative whole.

there is only one Almighty
there is only one universe

they are related

Thief · Nov 30, 2016

godnotgod said:
No, it's called 'reality' because people think perception is reality, in much the same way that the dreamer thinks his dream to be real. Some think that reality can be determined by dropping a brick on one's foot or banging their heads against the proverbial wall.

keep banging your head on the wall....
something is bound to break

Ben Dhyan · Nov 30, 2016

Thief said:
there is only one Almighty
there is only one universe

they are related

In what way are they related? Let's say God is to 'speak' to a prophet, what is the medium through which the message is sent and received?

Thief · Nov 30, 2016

ben d said:
In what way are they related? Let's say God is to 'speak' to a prophet, what is the medium through which the message is sent and received?

more like.....
God as creator and the universe, His creation

Can't have a creation without a Creator

Ben Dhyan · Nov 30, 2016

Thief said:
more like.....
God as creator and the universe, His creation

Can't have a creation without a Creator

I get that, but what is the medium that separates the apparent two?

Thief · Nov 30, 2016

ben d said:
I get that, but what is the medium that separates the apparent two?

the Creator is Spirit
the creation is substance

Ben Dhyan · Nov 30, 2016

Thief said:
the Creator is Spirit
the creation is substance

Do they both occupy the same space?

godnotgod · Nov 30, 2016

Thief said:
keep banging your head on the wall....
something is bound to break

Maybe you will wake up from your dream that you only think to be reality, because you smell, taste, see, hear, and feel. The senses lie.

godnotgod · Nov 30, 2016

ben d said:
The state of nothing is nothingness....

OK, now I get what you're saying about infinity vis a vis nothing. However, I would say that it is precisely because of Nothingness that there is Infinity, or perhaps more accurately, that No-thing-ness is itself the Ultimate Reality.

godnotgod · Nov 30, 2016

Thief said:
indeed.....there are many mansions in my Father's House

You said there is no duality, and yet, you talk about 'your Father's House', being Heaven, the dual opposite of Hell.

godnotgod · Nov 30, 2016

Rick O'Shez said:
As I thought, there isn't a second part.

Here. Go educate yourself in the latest physics, and get out of the old stale materialist paradigm:

Now stop your whining and bothering me with your dribble.

Rick O'Shez · Dec 1, 2016

godnotgod said:
Now stop your whining and bothering me with your dribble.

Now stop your preaching, and stop boring everyone with your naff DIY religion. Stop regurgitating the same old discredited new-age twaddle.

Ben Dhyan · Dec 1, 2016

Anyone else get the groundhog day feeling...

Rick O'Shez · Dec 1, 2016

ben d said:
Anyone else get the groundhog day feeling...

Yeah, yet another thread hijacked by an attention-seeking Chopra-clone. The same old new-age jargon, naff videos and clichéd quotes, repeatedly dumped into threads, more or less at random. The same horrible muddle of pseudo-Hinduism and pseudo-science. We've had to put up with this ego-centric proselytizing for years.

godnotgod · Dec 1, 2016

Rick O'Shez said:
Now stop your preaching, and stop boring everyone with your naff DIY religion. Stop regurgitating the same old discredited new-age twaddle.

You're obviously delusional and attached to your fantasies. You really need a psychiatrist to help you out of that corner you've somehow managed to paint yourself into.

Now go to your room!

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