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Lucifer Satan Qs

Gyrannon

Gyrannon

Agnostic Necromancer
If Lucifer is Satan, why was his name changed?
Other believers out there say "Lucifer & Satan are not the same being", if thats true then whats the difference between them?
 
The_Fisher_King

The_Fisher_King

Trying to bring myself ever closer to Allah
Premium Member
Gyrannon said:
If Lucifer is Satan, why was his name changed?
Other believers out there say "Lucifer & Satan are not the same being", if thats true then whats the difference between them?
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I believe Lucifer is a name for the planet Venus.
I believe Satan is not.
 
Neo Deist

Neo Deist

Th.D. & D.Div. h.c.
Gyrannon said:
If Lucifer is Satan, why was his name changed?
Other believers out there say "Lucifer & Satan are not the same being", if thats true then whats the difference between them?
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The 4th century AD monk named Jerome, who was writing for his Latin Vulgate, capitalized the L in lucifer, thus giving rise to the traditional, albeit erroneous, name of Lucifer being applied to Satan. No one has a clue why he did that. Modern bibles have removed the term Lucifer from Isaiah 14:12 after realizing his mistake. Lucifer is not a name for Satan.

The term lucifer is Latin and it is in reference to the Greek heosphorus, which means the morning star. It is the planet Venus, which can be seen at dawn, that the term metaphorically refers to. Isaiah 14:12 is not about Satan and it does not reference to Luke 10:18. The passage in Isaiah is about a fallen Babylonian king, as is the entire chapter. It helps to understand the chapter/verse in context.
 
The_Fisher_King

The_Fisher_King

Trying to bring myself ever closer to Allah
Premium Member
Neo Deist said:
The passage in Isaiah is about a fallen Babylonian king, as is the entire chapter. It helps to understand the chapter/verse in context.
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In turn likely derived from (or related to - it's possible the causality runs in the opposite direction) the story of Attar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attar_(god) who challenged Ba'al Hadad for the throne (or on some readings replaced or succeeded him) and failed (or found to be a not very effective king of the gods, and kicked out).
 
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Nadia Faiazova

Member
The term "Lucifer" is the translation of the Hebrew word , meaning "shining one". Such rendering is found in Latin Vulgate. Its a term, or adjective, describing the ambitious desire. In the same time the word "Satan" means in Hebrew the one who is resisting God. These two title are given to a angel, who opposed himself to the God, Creator.
 
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