God is talking to Satan in the book of Job -and Satan had been on the Earth prior to that conversation.
Satan was in Eden -on Earth -as the serpent -not an obedient angel as he had once been -which means he had already rebelled and been cast down to the Earth.
When Lucifer first decided to stage a coup against God, he said "I will ascend above the heights of the clouds". That would be before the events in Eden.
It is only an assumption that the sons of God who had relations with the daughters of men were angels -resulting in the nephilim -giants/bullies/tyrants.
It is also an assumption that there were no humanoids/man by scientific definition before Adam. Cain left Eden and somehow found a wife in Nod. The distinction between the sons of God and the daughters of men could be between Adam's line and those already on Earth before Adam.
Christ became flesh, so it is technically not impossible for angels to do so if allowed -but in the New Testament, the angels are said to not be married or given in marriage as men are -which may include a lack of human gender distinction.
I don't see why God would allow obedient angels to have relations with human women -and the sinning angels had already been restrained (Tartaros). Tartaros is the state of restraint of the sinning angels -not a separate place created.
Satan fell from heaven-after ascending above the heights of the clouds -and was cast back down to Earth.
All right, let me check. Sorry, it's long. It sounds like you are right. As for Nod, it is described at the end. Thanks for straightening me out!
I'm getting the following from gotquestions.org. The fall of Lucifer is described in
Isaiah 14:12 is likely the same that Jesus referred to in
Luke 10:18: "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.” A similar fall is depicted in
Ezekiel 28.
Isaiah 14:12–18 describes the fall from heaven of one called “Lucifer.” The description of the one referred to shows us it can be none other than Satan. We know from Jesus’ own words in
Luke 10 that Satan fell from heaven. So, when Isaiah refers to Lucifer (In Hebrew, helel) being cast down to earth (
Isaiah 14:12), it can be none other than Satan. The reason for his fall is found in verses 13 and 14: “You said in your heart, ‘I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.’” This has always been Satan’s desire—to be God—and it is the very temptation he used in the garden of Eden to get Eve to disobey God: “You shall be as God” (
Genesis 3:5).
Ezekiel 28 is another passage thought to refer to Lucifer/Satan. Although it begins with Ezekiel being commanded by God to “take up a lament concerning the king of Tyre” (v. 12), an evil idolatrous king, it soon becomes clear that the passage is referring as well to the power behind that king—Satan. Verse 13 says he was “in Eden, the garden of God.” Clearly, the king of Tyre was never in Eden. Verse 14 says, “You were anointed as a guardian cherub, for so I ordained you.” Apparently, Lucifer/Satan had a position of guardian angel in heaven “among the fiery stones,” thought to be the shining precious jewels that are seen in other descriptions of heaven (
Exodus 24:10;
Revelation 21:18–21). Since the king of Tyre was never in heaven, either, this can only be describing Lucifer. The rest of the passage describes the reason he was cast out of heaven. Because of his beauty, his heart became proud and his wisdom was corrupted (
Ezekiel 28:17). Pride in his perfection, wisdom, and beauty (v. 12) became the source of his downfall, and God threw him to the earth (v. 17). This was witnessed by the Lord Jesus in heaven before His incarnation (
Luke 10:18)."
"While there is no verse that says "a third of the angels fell from heaven," some verses, when put together, lead us to that conclusion. Sometime after their creation, and most certainly after the sixth day when everything was declared “very good” (
Genesis 1:31), Satan rebelled and was cast out of heaven. “How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!” (
Isaiah 14:12). Jesus said, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven” (
Luke 10:18), and in the book of the Revelation Satan is seen as “a star that had fallen from the sky to the earth” (
Revelation 9:1).
We are also told that one third of an “innumerable company of angels” (
Hebrews 12:22) chose to rebel with him. John saw this great wonder in heaven, “…an enormous red dragon…His tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth…the great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him” (
Revelation 12:3–9).
Since Satan is referred to as a star which fell or was cast down to earth, and
Revelation 12:4 says a third of the stars were cast out with him, then the conclusion is that the stars in
Revelation 12 refer to fallen angels, fully one third of the heavenly host. If the one-third number is in fact accurate, what assurance that is! Two thirds of the angels are still on God's side, and for followers of Christ, they are on our side as well."
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Satan is not the ruler of hell. It is God who is in charge. Jesus says, “Do not be afraid of those who kill the body, and after that can do no more. . . . Fear Him who, after the killing of the body, has power to throw you into hell” (
Luke 12:4–5). Jesus is referring to God here. He alone has the power to throw someone into hell. Who holds the
keys of death and hades? Jesus has absolute control over that domain (
Revelation 1:18). Jesus assures all believers that not even the gates of hades can overcome His church (
Matthew 16:18).
The lake of fire, mentioned only in
Revelation 19:20 and
20:10,
14–15, is the final place of punishment for all unrepentant rebels, both angelic and human (
Matthew 25:41). The universal punishment for all who reject Jesus Christ as Savior is to be “cast into the lake of fire” (
Revelation 20:15). The Bible speaks of hell as a place of “outer darkness” where there will be “weeping and gnashing of teeth” (
Matthew 8:12;
22:13). Those whose names are written in the
Lamb’s book of life should have no fear of this terrible fate. By faith in Christ and His shed blood, we are destined to live eternally in the presence of God.
Satan does not rule hell or lead his demons in tormenting those who are banished there. In fact, the Bible does not say that Satan has been to hell yet. Rather, “eternal fire” is awaiting Satan; the place was originally created to punish Satan and the demons (
Matthew 25:41), not to give them a kingdom to rule.
Until Satan is condemned and thrown into the pit forever, he spends his time between heaven (
Job 1:6–12) and earth (
1 Peter 5:8). He will not always have freedom of movement, and he knows it. “Woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has gone down to you! He is filled with fury, because he knows that his time is short” (
Revelation 12:12).
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Satan’s fall from heaven is symbolically described in
Isaiah 14:12-14 and
Ezekiel 28:12-18. While these two passages are referring specifically to the kings of Babylon and Tyre, they also reference the spiritual power behind those kings, namely, Satan. These passages describe why Satan fell, but they do not specifically say when the fall occurred. What we do know is this: the angels were created before the earth (
Job 38:4-7). Satan fell before he tempted Adam and Eve in the Garden (
Genesis 3:1-14). Satan’s fall, therefore, must have occurred somewhere after the time the angels were created and before he tempted Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. Whether Satan’s fall occurred hours, days, or years before he tempted Adam and Eve in the Garden, Scripture does not specifically say.
The book of Job tells us, at least at that time, Satan still had access to heaven and to the throne of God. “One day the angels came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them. The LORD said to Satan, ’Where have you come from?’ Satan answered the LORD, ‘From roaming through the earth and going back and forth in it’” (
Job 1:6-7). Apparently at that time, Satan was still moving freely between heaven and earth, speaking to God directly and answering for his activities. Whether God has discontinued this access is a matter of debate. Some say Satan's access to heaven was ended at the death of Christ. Others believe Satan's access to heaven will be ended at the end times
war in heaven.
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Who were the sons of God and daughters of men in Genesis 6:1-4?
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