How about my question about JWs not being allowed to study psychology, philosophy and sociology? Please tell me that it isn't true. Any religious leaders putting a leash on what kind of information their congregation has access to throws up a big red flag. Suppression of knowledge should not be necessary to retain faith.If anyone wants to address an issue out of genuine curiosity, I will be happy to address them individually but not interested in wasting time entertaining fault-finding opposers just for the sake of it.
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Curious? J.W.'s not permitted to post here?
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I see no problem with psychology or sociology.....in fact we can pretty much study whatever we like as long as it does not impact on our spirituality or time unnecessarily.
Philosophy is something we find no use for. It is an endless circular argument for things that never quite come to any definite conclusions. It is a waste of time for anyone who has better things to do than to muse endlessly about things of no real consequence. It was even warned about in the scriptures.
Colossians 2:8:
" Look out that no one takes you captive by means of the philosophy and empty deception according to human tradition, according to the elementary things of the world and not according to Christ"
Like a lot of things in this world, it is spiritually "empty". We like to study the Bible mostly because this is the knowledge that leads to a future. (John 17:3)
Philosophy
Definition: The word philosophy is derived from Greek roots that mean “love of wisdom.” As used here, philosophy is not built on acceptance of belief in God, but it tries to give people a unified view of the universe and endeavors to make them critical thinkers. It employs chiefly speculative means rather than observation in a search for truth.
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1101989253
Definition: The word philosophy is derived from Greek roots that mean “love of wisdom.” As used here, philosophy is not built on acceptance of belief in God, but it tries to give people a unified view of the universe and endeavors to make them critical thinkers. It employs chiefly speculative means rather than observation in a search for truth.
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1101989253
I have replied but I am sorry I missed your post in all the other rabble.
We have no "big brother" controlling our every move.....we have the Bible...we have a conscience...and we have shepherds who are there to care for us.
Please ask whatever you feel is reasonable and I will try to give you a reasonable answer.
Because of JWs on line someone might become interested in the research of them, but knowing that many in the congregations have resorted to child abuse, might be stumped reading this.
How is that possible that Jehovah is "in control" but innocent children have been used to satisfy certain evil men's desires?
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2006525
How is that possible that Jehovah is "in control" but innocent children have been used to satisfy certain evil men's desires?
ukok102nak
Active Member
:smoke: now
my lady as we have
expressed our reasons
then maybe its time to share with you the good news now
so as it is written
:read:
Isaiah 66:6
Hark! an uproar from the city, Hark! it cometh from the temple, Hark! HaShem rendereth recompense to His enemies.
7 Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man-child.
8 Who hath heard such a thing? Who hath seen such things? Is a land born in one day? Is a nation brought forth at once? For as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.
is the first creation were been made by just a day
and
did you know that waters came first before light
as it is written
:read:
Genesis 1:2
Now the earth was formless and empty. Darkness was on the surface of the deep. God's Spirit was hovering over the surface of the waters.
3 God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.
how long it will take the light to travel before our naked eye could see it
or
vice versa
meaning how fast is the eyes of humans to see how fast the light travels from one place to another
if we may say so
that is
the continuation of our reasons
that we posted earlier
my lady
:ty:
godbless
unto all always
my lady as we have
expressed our reasons
then maybe its time to share with you the good news now
so as it is written
:read:
Isaiah 66:6
Hark! an uproar from the city, Hark! it cometh from the temple, Hark! HaShem rendereth recompense to His enemies.
7 Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man-child.
8 Who hath heard such a thing? Who hath seen such things? Is a land born in one day? Is a nation brought forth at once? For as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.
is the first creation were been made by just a day
and
did you know that waters came first before light
as it is written
:read:
Genesis 1:2
Now the earth was formless and empty. Darkness was on the surface of the deep. God's Spirit was hovering over the surface of the waters.
3 God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.
how long it will take the light to travel before our naked eye could see it
or
vice versa
meaning how fast is the eyes of humans to see how fast the light travels from one place to another
if we may say so
that is
the continuation of our reasons
that we posted earlier
my lady
:ty:
godbless
unto all always
Whiz.
This thread sure got a lot of attention for and from Deeje.
Deeje is my dear friend.
Me loves her so very much.
Deeje also makes tons of good sense with her responses.
I also tend to be partial to J.W. doctrine.
J.W.'s don't have the fluff and trimmings of other Christian denominations.
The Kingdom Hall is austere at best, devoid of anything remotely fancy.
Also devoid of ANY gov'ment flag that dose not belong in ANY church building.
J.S.'s donot take part in politics so can't be blamed for the Clinton's or Bush's of the world.
J.W.'s pay work and pay taxes just as any decent citizen.
J.W.'s are not the "fringe" religion many believe they are.
They don't celebrate X-mas, Easter, and such for sound Biblical reasons.
Sorry for the thread drift.
I'm having a really BAD p.t.s.d. day.
Perhaps I'll start a thread about the horrible violence I've endured.
Perhaps it might help to "talk" about it.
This thread sure got a lot of attention for and from Deeje.
Deeje is my dear friend.
Me loves her so very much.
Deeje also makes tons of good sense with her responses.
I also tend to be partial to J.W. doctrine.
J.W.'s don't have the fluff and trimmings of other Christian denominations.
The Kingdom Hall is austere at best, devoid of anything remotely fancy.
Also devoid of ANY gov'ment flag that dose not belong in ANY church building.
J.S.'s donot take part in politics so can't be blamed for the Clinton's or Bush's of the world.
J.W.'s pay work and pay taxes just as any decent citizen.
J.W.'s are not the "fringe" religion many believe they are.
They don't celebrate X-mas, Easter, and such for sound Biblical reasons.
Sorry for the thread drift.
I'm having a really BAD p.t.s.d. day.
Perhaps I'll start a thread about the horrible violence I've endured.
Perhaps it might help to "talk" about it.
I shall nickname you Picasso.
So, the reason that JW's cannot post here is because there is a mandate in their religion against posting the ''good news'' on the internet, in order to reach someone from another country, etc? I remember when JW's left here, and thought it was a mandate that they weren't permitted to use the internet, anymore...in general.
They CAN post here. @Deeje is a JW. The others (one, I forget her name- was much more mature and resolved in the faith of JWs than most) left because of warning words of MEN. I am sure it was not Jehovah WHO cares about words on the internet that go by so very, very fast that nobody can keep up with them. It is the GB who choose to keep their people away from knowledge. I am sure.So, the reason that JW's cannot post here is because there is a mandate in their religion against posting the ''good news'' on the internet, in order to reach someone from another country, etc? I remember when JW's left here, and thought it was a mandate that they weren't permitted to use the internet, anymore...in general.
ukok102nak
Active Member
~;> as they say
So I stood, and saw, and, behold, an hot burning oven passed by before me: and it happened that when the flame was gone by I looked, and, behold, the smoke remained still.
:ty:
godbless
unto all always
Deidre
I have wondered the exact same thing.
http://search.aol.com/aol/search?en...archbox-ac&q=jehovah's+witnesses+online+bible
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/
http://www.alwaysbeready.com/jehovahs-witnesses
Just a few of the many online sites they have.
Also they have television and radio programs.
I dunno.
One would think "spreading the good news" via social and other media would be perfectly fine as would site like
this one.
I have wondered the exact same thing.
http://search.aol.com/aol/search?en...archbox-ac&q=jehovah's+witnesses+online+bible
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/
http://www.alwaysbeready.com/jehovahs-witnesses
Just a few of the many online sites they have.
Also they have television and radio programs.
I dunno.
One would think "spreading the good news" via social and other media would be perfectly fine as would site like
this one.
Just so you know, I liked it, not because I understand it, but because you are a wonderful poet or something.
As I remember hearing from The Boss Men (governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses) there is only one appropriate web site for them. So, "always be ready" is not an official place imo. But, thanks be to God, I don't know.
Research, research, research. Please, my friend @jeager106 read the first line here: http://www.alwaysbeready.com/jehovahs-witnesses
That is obviously an anti-JW site. I love you!
That is obviously an anti-JW site. I love you!
I think her name was JayDee? I can't remember, but I liked her. I don't believe in what JW's believe, but I admired her steadfast faith in her beliefs.
I can't find II Ezra 4:48. I did not know about II Ezra. And here I am debating the Bible on the internet.........
No, not her. It was the polite one.