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Is America an extension of Rome

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
You impress me ben d. You've been trying to correctly interpret God's Prophetic Word, yet you erroneously identify, and blame, Rome and/or the U.S. when NOT ONE verse implies such a thing.

Maybe you can explain to the forum how the U.S. is the little horn when Daniel 8, 10, and 11 say he/it would emerge from the geographical area of the Grecian empire.

Dan 8:21 And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king.

Strange too is that the word 'horn' is the word 'qeren' and comes from the word 'qaran' which means, "to shine. or to send out beams."

More coincidence I suppose.
Refer to the fourth beast of Daniel 7, it is not Greece, the third beast is.... The fourth beast is post Roman empire Europe, with the ten horns representing ten nations of Europe which colonized the world... Now consider in Daniel 7:8 “I considered the (ten) horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.”

Now of these ten nations, three of them were overthrown by a new little nation formed by the peoples of the ten imperial nations of Europe....the three are Spain, France, and England... These three had colonies in what is now known as the USA....and then the colonial peoples overthrew the rule of the three European kings to form an independent nation, though still of the imperial culture of Europe... Here is a map of North America in 1740....before independence

http://tabbara.wikispaces.com/Freedom+&+Independence+Assignments

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kaoticprofit

Active Member
Refer to the fourth beast of Daniel 7, it is not Greece, the third beast is.... The fourth beast is post Roman empire Europe, with the ten horns representing ten nations of Europe which colonized the world... Now consider in Daniel 7:8 “I considered the (ten) horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.”

Now of these ten nations, three of them were overthrown by a new little nation formed by the peoples of the ten imperial nations of Europe....the three are Spain, France, and England... These three had colonies in what is now known as the USA....and then the colonial peoples overthrew the rule of the three European kings to form an independent nation, though still of the imperial culture of Europe... Here is a map of North America in 1740....before independence

http://tabbara.wikispaces.com/Freedom+&+Independence+Assignments

map_03_a.gif
So what you're doing is associating the empires of Daniel 2 as the same empires as Daniel 7. Correct?
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
The gold head of the dream in Daniel 2 we are told was the king Nebuchadnezzar....thus it is a given that the first empire was Babylon. Therefore logically, the rest follow as per the order of the beasts of the dream of Daniel 7.... Silver is the King of Persian empire....the bronze is the King/s of the Greek empire, the iron represents the ten kings of the Europe...and the 'iron mixed with clay' is a nation where the 'iron'..the king, unlike Europe where the King is a King because of bloodline..is elected by the subjects...who are represented by the 'clay'... The USA with its elected King/CiC is the metaphorical 'feet of iron mixed with clay'...
 

meghanwaterlillies

Well-Known Member
The gold head we are told was the king Nebuchadnezzar....thus it is a given that the first empire was Babylon. Therefore logically, the rest follow as per the order of the beasts of Daniel 7.... Silver is the King of Persian empire....the bronze is the King/s of the Greek empire, the iron represents the ten kings of the Europe...and the 'iron mixed with clay' is a nation where the 'iron'..the king, unlike Europe where the King is a King because of bloodline..is elected by the subjects...who are represented by the 'clay'... The USA with its elected King/CiC is the metaphorical 'feet of iron mixed with clay'...
No we are not we not an Idol the freakin world sees us that way and judges it and as if even here media tells us that we are bad we are a satan. We are nothing like that the whole is expected to be like mike by their own people at the same time we are an idol they can hate. As an american born citizen I always get the guilt out of the old new testament by what is populated. I also have continually conform. BUT WE ARE AN IDOL
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
No we are not we not an Idol the freakin world sees us that way and judges it and as if even here media tells us that we are bad we are a satan. We are nothing like that the whole is expected to be like mike by their own people at the same time we are an idol they can hate. As an american born citizen I always get the guilt out of the old new testament by what is populated. I also have continually conform. BUT WE ARE AN IDOL
That you happen to be born in America is no different to me being born in Australia...the last beast's kingdom is the whole world...hell, you would think we were a part of the US the amount of TV coverage of the presidential campaign... The goal for you and for myself is one and the same...to come on out of Babylon...in the spiritual sense...
 

kaoticprofit

Active Member
The gold head of the dream in Daniel 2 we are told was the king Nebuchadnezzar....thus it is a given that the first empire was Babylon. Therefore logically, the rest follow as per the order of the beasts of the dream of Daniel 7.... Silver is the King of Persian empire....the bronze is the King/s of the Greek empire, the iron represents the ten kings of the Europe...and the 'iron mixed with clay' is a nation where the 'iron'..the king, unlike Europe where the King is a King because of bloodline..is elected by the subjects...who are represented by the 'clay'... The USA with its elected King/CiC is the metaphorical 'feet of iron mixed with clay'...

Was there something deficient in Daniel's depiction of the great statue in chapter 2 where God found it necessary to repeat the prophecy in a completely different vision in Daniel 7?
Daniel 2...

Your interpretation of Daniel is the same as most of our illustrious bible prophecy EXPERTS. Meaning...

Head of gold= Babylon
Arms of silver = Medo-Persia
Thighs of bronze = Greece
Legs of iron = Rome
Toes mingled with iron and clay = The Rome/EU.

If I'm correct, then answer these questions...

The only thing said about the second kingdom, the arms of silver, is that it's inferior to Babylon. What kingdom was inferior to Babylon? Was Medo-Persia the inferior kingdom? Absolutely not! The Median Empire was not only much smaller it was also short lived. How can the Medo-Persian empire be the "arms of silver" when the word 'inferior' is the word LAND. How was Medo-Persia 'land inferior' to Babylon when it was three times the size of Babylon? Daniel, Isaiah, and Jeremiah all ascribe the taking of Babylon to the Medes, NOT the Persians.

Daniel 5:31 "And Darius the Median took the kingdom, (Babylon) being about threescore and two years old."

Isaiah 13:17 "Behold, I will stir up the Medes against them, ie.(Babylon)

Jeremiah 51:11 Make bright the arrows; gather the shields: the LORD hath raised up the spirit of the kings of the Medes: for his device is against Babylon, to destroy it; because it is the vengeance of the LORD, the vengeance of his temple.

The iron and clay also debunk Rome as the fourth kingdom/legs of iron...

Daniel 2:43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

How can the word 'MIXED OR MINGLED' denote a Roman, Rome, an Italian, or the EU when MIXED is the Aramaic word, ARAB and in every resource I have says it denotes an Arab or Arabia.

Gesenius
...on the word MIXED...

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How can Rome be represented by 'iron and clay' when what is said about it doesn't describe the Romans, but perfectly describes the Arabs?

http://www.blacksheepprophecies.com/iron-and-clay.html

Rome is the iron and clay like falafel is French. The iron and clay are the end-time Arabic people namely the Sunni (iron) and Shia(clay) sects of Islam.

Rome and the EU are UNITED and have strong alliances.

And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.

And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.

And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

How is Rome and the EU divided, partly strong and partly broken? How is Rome and the EU, "not cleaved to one another." Rome and the EU have quite strong alliances! The Arabs have brittle alliances and are know for breaking treaties with one another! Daniel says more about the iron and clay than anything else on the statue so we have a good description of it. Yet, you can't see, or don't want to see, that Rome and Europe just doesn't fit this prophecy! We've been through this before!

Besides being divided, the toes of iron and clay of the fourth kingdom are said to subdue all things, break in pieces, and BRUISE, be divided and "not cleave to one another", and mixed with the seed of men, partly strong, and partly broken. A perfect description of all Muslims. How do the Europeans fit that description? The Arabs, Iranians, and Muslim's have destroyed the region of the Middle-East and subdued nearly every religion in the region. How can that be applied to Rome or the EU?

How are the Romans and Europeans intermarried? (mixed with the seed of men) The Arabs are the most intermarried people in the world!

And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.

Daniel 7 isn't a historical repeat of chapter 2. Why would God find it necessary to repeat any vision by the same author? Why repeat the same sequence of kingdoms of Daniel 2 in chapter 7? Were there shortcomings in Daniel 2 that required repetition? Interpreters say that the Lion of Daniel 7 is Babylon.

Daniel 7...

How can Daniel prophesy about a kingdom RISING (Babylon) when that kingdom (Babylon) had ALREADY risen some 50 years before? Daniel chapter 7 was written about 35 years after Daniel's vision of the great statue in chapter 2. Daniel 7 was written in the first year of Belshazzar who was the last king of Babylon. In other words, Babylon was on its way out when Daniel prophesied about these four kingdoms RISING! A prophet CANNOT prophesy about a kingdom RISING that HAD RISEN some 50 years before AND NOT BE DEEMED A FALSE PROPHET! Atheist Kyle Williams knows that but Christians JUST DON'T CARE! Williams uses your interpretation to debunk Daniel as a true prophet and the Word of God as well. But Christians just don't care!

The vision of Daniel's four beast in chapter 7 are figurative of 4 end time kingdoms competing to dominate the region around the Mediterranean. The word before in 7:7 says that this beast "was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns."

The Hebrew word for "before" in this text is ‘qodam’ which means "in front of, in the presence of, not "historically before" as is commonly interpreted. This means the first three empires will be in the presence of (or stand before) the anti-Christ kingdom when it emerges. They are all end-time kingdoms.
 

meghanwaterlillies

Well-Known Member
That you happenit wasto be born in America is no different to me being born in Australia...the last beast's kingdom is the whole world...hell, you would think we were a part of the US the amount of TV coverage of the presidential campaign... The goal for you and for myself is one and the same...to come on out of Babylon...in the spiritual sense...
In the beginning God made heavens and the earth he saw that it good. Okay I do see what your saying
 

meghanwaterlillies

Well-Known Member
[QUOTEdon't meghanwaterlillies, post: 4893937, member: 60338"]In the beginning God made heavens and the earth he saw that it good. Okay I do see what your saying[/QUOTE]
But u dont .. thats why are they posting it on ur tv that's my point their idea is bull**** lie to hate down one side idolize so what doez the rest of think. That's right how many false prophets have u heard I hear them here too. The would love to hate something so they can have a new world order. Why do u think they sent a statue of liberty and mocked us said it was gift. Do you know who we are supposed to be?
 

meghanwaterlillies

Well-Known Member
Was there something deficient in Daniel's depiction of the great statue in chapter 2 where God found it necessary to repeat the prophecy in a completely different vision in Daniel 7?
Daniel 2...

Your interpretation of Daniel is the same as most of our illustrious bible prophecy EXPERTS. Meaning...

Head of gold= Babylon
Arms of silver = Medo-Persia
Thighs of bronze = Greece
Legs of iron = Rome
Toes mingled with iron and clay = The Rome/EU.

If I'm correct, then answer these questions...

The only thing said about the second kingdom, the arms of silver, is that it's inferior to Babylon. What kingdom was inferior to Babylon? Was Medo-Persia the inferior kingdom? Absolutely not! The Median Empire was not only much smaller it was also short lived. How can the Medo-Persian empire be the "arms of silver" when the word 'inferior' is the word LAND. How was Medo-Persia 'land inferior' to Babylon when it was three times the size of Babylon? Daniel, Isaiah, and Jeremiah all ascribe the taking of Babylon to the Medes, NOT the Persians.

Daniel 5:31 "And Darius the Median took the kingdom, (Babylon) being about threescore and two years old."

Isaiah 13:17 "Behold, I will stir up the Medes against them, ie.(Babylon)

Jeremiah 51:11 Make bright the arrows; gather the shields: the LORD hath raised up the spirit of the kings of the Medes: for his device is against Babylon, to destroy it; because it is the vengeance of the LORD, the vengeance of his temple.

The iron and clay also debunk Rome as the fourth kingdom/legs of iron...

Daniel 2:43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

How can the word 'MIXED OR MINGLED' denote a Roman, Rome, an Italian, or the EU when MIXED is the Aramaic word, ARAB and in every resource I have says it denotes an Arab or Arabia.

Gesenius
...on the word MIXED...

attachment.php


How can Rome be represented by 'iron and clay' when what is said about it doesn't describe the Romans, but perfectly describes the Arabs?

http://www.blacksheepprophecies.com/iron-and-clay.html

Rome is the iron and clay like falafel is French. The iron and clay are the end-time Arabic people namely the Sunni (iron) and Shia(clay) sects of Islam.

Rome and the EU are UNITED and have strong alliances.

And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.

And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.

And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

How is Rome and the EU divided, partly strong and partly broken? How is Rome and the EU, "not cleaved to one another." Rome and the EU have quite strong alliances! The Arabs have brittle alliances and are know for breaking treaties with one another! Daniel says more about the iron and clay than anything else on the statue so we have a good description of it. Yet, you can't see, or don't want to see, that Rome and Europe just doesn't fit this prophecy! We've been through this before!

Besides being divided, the toes of iron and clay of the fourth kingdom are said to subdue all things, break in pieces, and BRUISE, be divided and "not cleave to one another", and mixed with the seed of men, partly strong, and partly broken. A perfect description of all Muslims. How do the Europeans fit that description? The Arabs, Iranians, and Muslim's have destroyed the region of the Middle-East and subdued nearly every religion in the region. How can that be applied to Rome or the EU?

How are the Romans and Europeans intermarried? (mixed with the seed of men) The Arabs are the most intermarried people in the world!

And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.

Daniel 7 isn't a historical repeat of chapter 2. Why would God find it necessary to repeat any vision by the same author? Why repeat the same sequence of kingdoms of Daniel 2 in chapter 7? Were there shortcomings in Daniel 2 that required repetition? Interpreters say that the Lion of Daniel 7 is Babylon.

Daniel 7...

How can Daniel prophesy about a kingdom RISING (Babylon) when that kingdom (Babylon) had ALREADY risen some 50 years before? Daniel chapter 7 was written about 35 years after Daniel's vision of the great statue in chapter 2. Daniel 7 was written in the first year of Belshazzar who was the last king of Babylon. In other words, Babylon was on its way out when Daniel prophesied about these four kingdoms RISING! A prophet CANNOT prophesy about a kingdom RISING that HAD RISEN some 50 years before AND NOT BE DEEMED A FALSE PROPHET! Atheist Kyle Williams knows that but Christians JUST DON'T CARE! Williams uses your interpretation to debunk Daniel as a true prophet and the Word of God as well. But Christians just don't care!

The vision of Daniel's four beast in chapter 7 are figurative of 4 end time kingdoms competing to dominate the region around the Mediterranean. The word before in 7:7 says that this beast "was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns."

The Hebrew word for "before" in this text is ‘qodam’ which means "in front of, in the presence of, not "historically before" as is commonly interpreted. This means the first three empires will be in the presence of (or stand before) the anti-Christ kingdom when it emerges. They are all end-time kingdoms.
I never used williams .. who uses my description? Its okay i typo too. I should ask what that is first before i let you put words in my mouth (Silly prophet me) but what is williams description?
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
Was there something deficient in Daniel's depiction of the great statue in chapter 2 where God found it necessary to repeat the prophecy in a completely different vision in Daniel 7?
Daniel 2...

Your interpretation of Daniel is the same as most of our illustrious bible prophecy EXPERTS. Meaning...

Head of gold= Babylon
Arms of silver = Medo-Persia
Thighs of bronze = Greece
Legs of iron = Rome
Toes mingled with iron and clay = The Rome/EU.

If I'm correct, then answer these questions...

The only thing said about the second kingdom, the arms of silver, is that it's inferior to Babylon. What kingdom was inferior to Babylon? Was Medo-Persia the inferior kingdom? Absolutely not! The Median Empire was not only much smaller it was also short lived. How can the Medo-Persian empire be the "arms of silver" when the word 'inferior' is the word LAND. How was Medo-Persia 'land inferior' to Babylon when it was three times the size of Babylon? Daniel, Isaiah, and Jeremiah all ascribe the taking of Babylon to the Medes, NOT the Persians.

Daniel 5:31 "And Darius the Median took the kingdom, (Babylon) being about threescore and two years old."

Isaiah 13:17 "Behold, I will stir up the Medes against them, ie.(Babylon)

Jeremiah 51:11 Make bright the arrows; gather the shields: the LORD hath raised up the spirit of the kings of the Medes: for his device is against Babylon, to destroy it; because it is the vengeance of the LORD, the vengeance of his temple.

The iron and clay also debunk Rome as the fourth kingdom/legs of iron...

Daniel 2:43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

How can the word 'MIXED OR MINGLED' denote a Roman, Rome, an Italian, or the EU when MIXED is the Aramaic word, ARAB and in every resource I have says it denotes an Arab or Arabia.

Gesenius
...on the word MIXED...

attachment.php


How can Rome be represented by 'iron and clay' when what is said about it doesn't describe the Romans, but perfectly describes the Arabs?

http://www.blacksheepprophecies.com/iron-and-clay.html

Rome is the iron and clay like falafel is French. The iron and clay are the end-time Arabic people namely the Sunni (iron) and Shia(clay) sects of Islam.

Rome and the EU are UNITED and have strong alliances.

And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.

And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.

And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

How is Rome and the EU divided, partly strong and partly broken? How is Rome and the EU, "not cleaved to one another." Rome and the EU have quite strong alliances! The Arabs have brittle alliances and are know for breaking treaties with one another! Daniel says more about the iron and clay than anything else on the statue so we have a good description of it. Yet, you can't see, or don't want to see, that Rome and Europe just doesn't fit this prophecy! We've been through this before!

Besides being divided, the toes of iron and clay of the fourth kingdom are said to subdue all things, break in pieces, and BRUISE, be divided and "not cleave to one another", and mixed with the seed of men, partly strong, and partly broken. A perfect description of all Muslims. How do the Europeans fit that description? The Arabs, Iranians, and Muslim's have destroyed the region of the Middle-East and subdued nearly every religion in the region. How can that be applied to Rome or the EU?

How are the Romans and Europeans intermarried? (mixed with the seed of men) The Arabs are the most intermarried people in the world!

And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.

Daniel 7 isn't a historical repeat of chapter 2. Why would God find it necessary to repeat any vision by the same author? Why repeat the same sequence of kingdoms of Daniel 2 in chapter 7? Were there shortcomings in Daniel 2 that required repetition? Interpreters say that the Lion of Daniel 7 is Babylon.

Daniel 7...

How can Daniel prophesy about a kingdom RISING (Babylon) when that kingdom (Babylon) had ALREADY risen some 50 years before? Daniel chapter 7 was written about 35 years after Daniel's vision of the great statue in chapter 2. Daniel 7 was written in the first year of Belshazzar who was the last king of Babylon. In other words, Babylon was on its way out when Daniel prophesied about these four kingdoms RISING! A prophet CANNOT prophesy about a kingdom RISING that HAD RISEN some 50 years before AND NOT BE DEEMED A FALSE PROPHET! Atheist Kyle Williams knows that but Christians JUST DON'T CARE! Williams uses your interpretation to debunk Daniel as a true prophet and the Word of God as well. But Christians just don't care!

The vision of Daniel's four beast in chapter 7 are figurative of 4 end time kingdoms competing to dominate the region around the Mediterranean. The word before in 7:7 says that this beast "was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns."

The Hebrew word for "before" in this text is ‘qodam’ which means "in front of, in the presence of, not "historically before" as is commonly interpreted. This means the first three empires will be in the presence of (or stand before) the anti-Christ kingdom when it emerges. They are all end-time kingdoms.
Interesting interpretation....what is your understanding of Daniel 11:45 ....which world power is it that sets their tabernacle between Jerusalem and the Mediterranean sea?
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
But u dont .. thats why are they posting it on ur tv that's my point their idea is bull**** lie to hate down one side idolize so what doez the rest of think. That's right how many false prophets have u heard I hear them here too. The would love to hate something so they can have a new world order. Why do u think they sent a statue of liberty and mocked us said it was gift. Do you know who we are supposed to be?
Yes....those whose 'names were written in the Book of Life before the creation of this planet' know who they are...
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
Where do you come up with the idea that "the last beast kingdom" is the whole world?
From Daniel 12 ....judgement can only tale place after all other events in prophecy are fulfilled. There logically has to be a last empire and the NWO push to rule the planet is it..... Also check out Revelation 13 ...
 

meghanwaterlillies

Well-Known Member
Fis om Daniel 12 ....judgement can only tale place after all other events in prophecy are fulfilled. There logically has to be a last empire and the NWO push to rule the planet is it..... Also check out Revelation 13 ...
Hey this may come off as a silly question but Is it possible not even with modern drugs that women could rape a man? I know it sounds dumb.
 

kaoticprofit

Active Member
Interesting interpretation....what is your understanding of Daniel 11:45 ....which world power is it that sets their tabernacle between Jerusalem and the Mediterranean sea?
A quick reply on the passage starts with verse 40.

The king of the North, or northern Islamic Caliphate., which region is now in complete chaos, fights against the king of the south, the southern Islamic Caliphate. The country of Jordan escapes him. I can't say I know for sure what the 'glorious land' is. Some say Judea. Some say Palestine. I lean toward the idea that it's Saudi Arabia. Why? Because of the glory of Kadar.
Isaiah 21:12-17 The watchman said, The morning cometh, and also the night: if ye will enquire, enquire ye: return, come.

13 The burden upon Arabia. In the forest in Arabia shall ye lodge, O ye travelling companies of Dedanim.

14 The inhabitants of the land of Tema brought water to him that was thirsty, they prevented with their bread him that fled.

Tema means 'desert'

15 For they fled from the swords, from the drawn sword, and from the bent bow, and from the grievousness of war.

16 For thus hath the Lord said unto me, Within a year, according to the years of an hireling, and all the glory of Kedar shall fail:

17 And the residue of the number of archers, the mighty men of the children of Kedar, shall be diminished: for the Lord God of Israel hath spoken it.

which world power is it that sets their tabernacle between Jerusalem and the Mediterranean sea?

Dan 11:45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.
There is no world power. That's the problem with many interpretations of today. There will never be a one world government. However. The Dome of the Rock is currently under Israeli control. Muslim's want it BAD, and want to use it, the Dome and East Jerusalem, as the headquarters of their "world Caliphate."

The seas are likely the Med, Black, Caspian, and Red sea...

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The "glorious holy mountain" is mount Moriah in East Jerusalem which is at the geographical center of Jerusalem's 'seven mountains, 'where the abomination of the Dome of the Rock now stands. The Dome area appears to be 'his' dwelling place.
 

kaoticprofit

Active Member
From Daniel 12 ....judgement can only tale place after all other events in prophecy are fulfilled. There logically has to be a last empire and the NWO push to rule the planet is it..... Also check out Revelation 13 ...
The NWO has done much to mislead people. That IS NOT prophetic and has nothing to do with end-time bible prophecy. There will not be a one world government, or one world religion. The kingdoms of the end-time beasts are limited to seven heads and ten horns. And the religion of the beast is ISLAM. They are NOT global, or a unification of the world's religions.

The only reason why people believe in globalism is because that's what they are taught.
 

Talmai

Member
As an American I confidently agree America is an extension of Rome.

Our judicial system is very Roman. If you are an American citizen you cannot be crucified.

Our architecture is very Roman. Ever seen the Thomas Jefferson Memorial or the northern facade of the White House?

One of our beloved icons is a Roman goddess. She is Libertas. Better known as the Statue of Liberty.

Our writing script is the Latin alphabet. Is it a coincidence that many Americans type in all caps? It is our Roman heritage.

Our schools teach children about Julius Caesar. In fact, I had to memorize part of Mark Anthony's famous speech ("Friends, Romans, countrymen...").

None of this is a coincidence. Read Virgil's Aeneid. It is very, very slightly parallel to the story of America's founding!
 
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