Tumah
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Can you prove that the Bible is primarily a spiritual Book about spiritual occurrences?
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Clear prophecy in the Bible about prophet Muhammad
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The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
Tumah isn't wrong because for the sake of this discussion Bahaiism and Islam make identical claims regarding Muhammad and his presence in the Bible. By asserting the Islamic claims of Muhammad in the Bible you're also inserting your own religion into this discussion.
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The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
I'm just sitting here waiting for someone to claim Muhammad fulfilled the role of the Zoroastrian saviour figure: the Saoshyant.
Shut up. We all know @MD is the Saoshyant.
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Can you prove that you're a real Jew? Cause I bet you're just one of those fake Jews who corrupted the Scriptures, amirite?
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meghanwaterlillies
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They recaptured it on the same: The Maccabees then purify the Temple and rededicate it on the 25th of Kislev, which is the date on the Hebrew calendar when we begin to celebrate the eight days of Chanukah. (The Hebrew word Chanukah means "dedication" or "inauguration.")
Early in the morning of the 25th day of the ninth month which is the month of Kislev...they [the priests] rose and offered sacrifices, as the law directs, on the new alter of burnt offerings which they had built...it was dedicated with songs and harps and lutes and cymbals...So they celebrated the dedication of the alter for eight days...(I Maccabees 4:52-56)
30 December (Or around that time Jesus, The Call Him King
John 10:22 Then came the Festival of Dedication at Jerusalem.....It was winter, 23and Jesus was walking in the temple courts in Solomon’s Colonnade
Jesus returns to Jerusalem for the Feast of Dedication
(Hanukkah) (John 10.22)
21But others replied, “These are not the words of a man possessed by a demon. Can a demon open the eyes of the blind?”
12The hired hand is not the shepherd, and the sheep are not his own. When he sees the wolf coming, he abandons the sheep and runs away. Then the wolf pounces on them and scatters the flock. 13The man runs away because he is a hired servant and is unconcerned for the sheep. 14I am the good shepherd. I know My sheep and My sheep know Me,…
9I am the gate. If anyone enters through Me, he will be saved.
10The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I have come that they may have life, and have it in all its fullness.…
17The reason the Father loves Me is that I lay down My life in order to take it up again.…
I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them in as well,..........Feast of Dedication
Tumah
Veteran Member
The Book of Haggai is a book of the Hebrew Bible or Tanakh, and has its place as the antepenultimate of the Minor Prophets. It is a short book, consisting of only two chapters. The historical setting dates around 520 BCE before the Temple has been rebuilt.[1]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Haggai
Haggai 2:15
meghanwaterlillies
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The Book itself is its own testimony about God, and His Prophets.
The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
You know the funniest part of all this? They (Muslims) are now in the exact same position as the Jews. They've got a small heretical sect - the Christians Ahmadis - claiming their founder fulfils the Jewish Islamic messiah prophecies. On top of that they've got another 'upstart' religion, Islam Bahaiism which validates all the previous prophets & adds its own to the tradition. Both these groups are, from a Jewish Muslim point of view, colourfully interpreting passages in the Tanach Quran in order to insert Jesus Mirza Ghulam Ahmad & Bahaullah into the narrative in the exact same way Muslims are doing in these threads in order to insert Muhammad into the Bible/Tanach.
The Abrahamic god is the universe's greatest troll.
The Abrahamic god is the universe's greatest troll.
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What about Esther and the Song of Songs?
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Tumah
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No, it means that you're not translating it correctly. What the prophet is saying, is that the nations will bring desirable things to the Temple. This was fulfilled. There were doors whose gold and silver plating was the contribution of Alexandria. Another set of doors were bronze plated from Corinth. The marble stone was imported, etc.
Tumah
Veteran Member
Yes, but that doesn't mean come up with this new concept of "spiritual princes" that is not alluded to anywhere in the Book.
meghanwaterlillies
Well-Known Member
No I think He is who He is has been and will also be but I see from your viewpoint were additions get all squishy washy with people.
It depends how one reads it.
Let's just wait and see.
The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
I should have clarified: the 'upstart' sentiment in regards to Bahaiism is strictly from the Muslim perspective. I don't consider Bahaiism an upstart religion. I'll amend the post just now to show that.
Of course there's other narratives in the Bible but not as dominant and widespread as those about God and religion etc
Hi guys, I've found a prophecy of Muhammad in the Bible.
First, Muslims believe that they are the descendants of Ishmael, yes? Okay cool.
So this is what the Bible says about Ishmael:
"This man will be like a wild donkey. His hand will be against everyone, and everyone's hand will be against him; he will live at odds with all his brothers. " Genesis 16:12.
Sounds like Muhammad, no?
First, Muslims believe that they are the descendants of Ishmael, yes? Okay cool.
So this is what the Bible says about Ishmael:
"This man will be like a wild donkey. His hand will be against everyone, and everyone's hand will be against him; he will live at odds with all his brothers. " Genesis 16:12.
Sounds like Muhammad, no?
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Just about every Muslim country has said the Baha'i Faith is not a Muslim religion.
1925 verdict of high Egyptian Court...
The Baha'i Faith is a new religion, entirely independent, with beliefs, principles and laws of its own, which differ from, and are utterly in conflict with, the beliefs, principles and laws of Islam. No Baha'i, therefore, can be regarded a Muslim or vice-versa, even as no Buddhist, Brahmin, or Christian can be regarded a Muslim or vice-versa."