The evidence for Jesus
The evidence for Allah
The evidence for macro-evolution
Which of these three things is most different?
Tom
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God The Omnipotent
- Thread starter Neo Deist
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The evidence for Allah
The evidence for macro-evolution
Which of these three things is most different?
Tom
The experts that directly study the phenomena overwhelmingly believe something profound is to be learned. Most of the dismissal types are atheist-materialists that will try to discount any type of paranormal experience. My opinion is that these so-called Skeptics are emotionally in defense of a world-view (atheistic-materialism) and are not fair and open-minded to anything that smacks of God, spirituality or the paranormal. To see the truth on any controversial subject we have to do our own investigation that considers all sides and opinions.
Neo Deist
Th.D. & D.Div. h.c.
Dude, I have a Th.D. from seminary. That would be a doctorate degree.
First Baseman
Retired athlete
No kidding. You don't seem to be familiar with the book of Job. Did you miss or skip that class?
First Baseman
Retired athlete
John 14
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Muslims also have scripture written by ancient people. Frankly, theirs is better in terms of reliability and internal coherence.
I still don't find it compelling. But at least they have a better explanation for why all those previous prophets were wrong.
Tom
McBell
Resident Sourpuss
Bold empty claim.
That you can make an appeal to popularity does not stop it from being a bold empty claim.
McBell
Resident Sourpuss
There is actual objective empirical evidence for macro-evolution.
McBell
Resident Sourpuss
Circular reasoning does not help your bold empty claim.
Neo Deist
Th.D. & D.Div. h.c.
Nice attempt at a personal jab, but if you can actually comprehend the OP you'd know that I was poking fun at the Satan concept. Besides, there are plenty of other threads where I have stated that Satan is subject to God's will and use the Book of Job as an example.
I thought that the winking smiley might give it away, but alas, some people are just not that observant. Thanks for playing.
God created the universe and all that is in it.
God created the laws of nature.
God created gravity and orbits.
God created what would become science and mathematics.
God created life and its complexities.
God created the elements and photosynthesis.
God created time, space and medicine.
God created us with intelligence.
God even created "Satan" but for some damn reason the omnipotent creator can't seem to do anything about him, according to some of the more archaic minded religions. Satan gets to roam free, tempting and taunting, and spreading his wickedness in his wake. Only a human mind would come up with such nonsense.
I say that if Satan were truly this evil, devilish nemesis, that God could simply snap His divine fingers and uncreate what He created and save everyone the trouble.
The concept of Satan you present is the Christian one. God created light. Darkness is absence of light and has no existence of its own. Likewise Satan is a symbol for the lower nature, the animalistic nature of man or the ego or insistent self but has no real existence.it is used in the Bible in a symbolical way but has been taught to Christians in a superstitious manner.
ukok102nak
Active Member
this i must say when it comes unto the term omnipotent
such as some people claimed that god could do everything
but we should tell this thing now
OUR LORD GOD CANNOT DO EVERYTHING NOR ANYTHING THAT IS
AGAINST HIS OWN WILL
THATS WHY HE GAVE US FREEWILL
BECAUSED HE KNEW
WHAT IT MEANS NOT TO GO AGAINST OUR OWN WILL
THATS WHAY OUR LORD GOD
CANNOT DO EVERYTHING
AS WHAT SOME PEOPLE MAY THINK ABOUT IT
BECAUSED OUR LORD GOD IS ALMIGHTY
BUT NOT A LIAR
as it is written carefully check
every detail on it
and kindly correct us if we are wrong
:read:
Hebrews 6:18
That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:
Titus 1:2
In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;
so as it is written carefully check
every detail on it
and kindly correct us if we are wrong
:read:
James 1:17
Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and comes down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
John 12:47
And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
48 He that rejects me, and receives not my words, c has one that judges him: the word d that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.
~;> THIS IS WHAT THE TRUE CHRISTIANS
BELIEF AND FAITH
ABOUT THIS SO CALLED OMNIPOTENT
by the way
we are just sharing some
knowledge and wisdom and if someone would accept it or would not accept it
then its freewill i must say also
~ by :happy: one of our brethren
:ty:
godbless
unto all always
Kelly of the Phoenix
Well-Known Member
That's ironic, since Christianity took one of God's employees who is never shown to be lying to anyone in the OT and calls him the Father of Lies.
You can also only play with the cards you're dealt. And Who's the dealer?
Maybe our troubles is another bet from Satan that an immature and insecure God couldn't help but to be suckered into?
What about all the people in the OT who saw God? What about when Jesus says the "pure in heart" can see God?
ukok102nak
Active Member
... . by the way
when jesus says this things as what you've mention before that
Jesus says the "pure in heart" can see God?
Matthew 5:8
Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
~;> is jesus declaring that those who were pure in heart could see god at any time
that's why
there is so much diffirence between a literal understanding and a
spiritual understanding
on a literal understanding
meaning in a physical material realm
even jesus said this things before
:read:
John 1:18
No man has seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he has declared him.
so what do you think
about the spiritual understanding
just askin
and you if dont intend to answer then
atleast we knew the very diffirence of your words from a certain question such as this but we are not somekind of what you think or anything else that you would ever think
who judge someone because of not answering someone's question
as long as we have the answer then we shall give the answer depends upon to anyone who comes unto that understanding . ...
as christjesus also said this thing
so as it is written
:read:
Matthew 8:20
And Jesus says unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man has not where to lay his head.
when jesus says this things as what you've mention before that
Jesus says the "pure in heart" can see God?
Matthew 5:8
Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
~;> is jesus declaring that those who were pure in heart could see god at any time
that's whythere is so much diffirence between a literal understanding and a
spiritual understanding
on a literal understanding
meaning in a physical material realm
even jesus said this things before
:read:
John 1:18
No man has seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he has declared him.
so what do you think
about the spiritual understanding
just askin
and you if dont intend to answer then
atleast we knew the very diffirence of your words from a certain question such as this but we are not somekind of what you think or anything else that you would ever think
who judge someone because of not answering someone's question
as long as we have the answer then we shall give the answer depends upon to anyone who comes unto that understanding . ...
as christjesus also said this thing
so as it is written
:read:
Matthew 8:20
And Jesus says unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man has not where to lay his head.
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