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How much we were weigh (sperm and egg) ?

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Let's be honest here, you don't know what an AMR is. :)

And you just show again that you have no clue about what beliefs Jews hold.

To quote the Rambam
"For if the Creation had been demonstrated by proof, even if only according to the Platonic hypothesis, all arguments of the philosophers against us would be of no avail. If, on the other hand, Aristotle had a proof for his theory, the whole teaching of Scripture would be rejected, and we should be forced to other opinions. I have thus shown that all depends on this question. Note it."
The Guide for the Perplexed: Book 2 Chapter 25

Nahmanides who was always rather critical on Rambam's views agrees on this btw.

And to further quote Rabbi Abraham Ibn Ezra
"The words of the Torah are never less than straightforward... therefore, if there appears something in the Torah which seems to contradict reason or to refute the evidence of our senses then here one should seek for the solution in a figurative interpretation. For reason is the foundation of everything. The Torah was not given to men who cannot reason and man's reason is the angel which mediates between him and his God."

Next up would be Rabbi Isaac ben Samuel of Acre (student of Nahmanides)
"Isaac states that the universe is actually 15,340,500,000 years old.[8] Isaac arrived at this conclusion by distinguishing between earthly "solar years" and "divine years," based on a verse from Psalms, which states that "A thousand years in Your sight are but as yesterday" (Psalm 90:4). If each day of a divine year is equal to a thousand earthly "solar years," then a divine year would be 365,250 years long. Isaac then makes some other calculations based on the Talmud and the Biblical sabbatical year, and arrives at the said number. The scientific estimation places the occurrence of the Big Bang at 13.799 ± 0.021 billion years ago."
Rabbi Aryeh Moshe Eliyahu Kaplan - Immortality, Resurrection and the Age of the Universe: A Kabbalistic View


You see all these medieval Jews might have lived among Muslims, but they were in reality far apart from them. And its rather sad that this would still be the case today.
My question is suppose/require to be answser by ONE word , Judiasm is for creation , or Judiasm is for evolution !!
seems whatever we did, we could NOT cure your blah blah disease.






Again: Gravity never has been a theory. It always existed since the advent of the Universe.
Yes squint eye is still working , tell that to @A Greased Scotsman , not me




You didn't read the article. Good.
Because that's not was refer to the point of my reply., you was not follow the discuss.




Yes in China. Turns out everyone is ahead of the Muslim world. This gonna be awkward to explain when we meet Alien lifeforms for the first time.
- "How was this possible? You lived on the same planet!"
- "Yeah... we know... sorry?"
- "So what happened to them?"
- *cough* "They all went into the desert."
- "And?"
- "What happens in the Desert stays in the Desert."

Also if you just read the Article you'd know what they did. Again I know I am asking too much.
Again ,don't you understand
I told you it's not the point that I was discuss, you came in last , you quote my replies , you was not follow the discuss in this thread .

Why your blah blah always activeted ?




I somehow doubt that you understood what I wrote.
Nor you too.
One of us says there is two minds , and other said there is two sides in one mind.



No. To be dead you need to have been alive.
.

dead in that verse of Quran means "not alive" no need to be alive before that.
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
My question is suppose/require to be answser by ONE word , Judiasm is for creation , or Judiasm is for evolution !!
seems whatever we did, we could NOT cure your blah blah disease.

So I answer your question by giving you the opinions of prominent Rabbis and all you understand is "blah blah"?

Not my problem.


Yes squint eye is still working , tell that to @A Greased Scotsman , not me

Thing is I know who I quoted and it wasn't him.
You wrote that Gravity stopped being a theory and became a fact. That is simply wrong.


Because that's not was refer to the point of my reply., you was not follow the discuss.

Actually its entirely on point since they create the tissue out of cells. Or don't you understand that?


Again ,don't you understand
I told you it's not the point that I was discuss, you came in last , you quote my replies , you was not follow the discuss in this thread .

Why your blah blah always activeted ?

You: Sperm comes from men, eggs from women
Me: In China they created Sperm and fertilized female mice who then had smaller healthy mice.
You: Nono that has nothing to do with what I wrote

Its obvious you either didn't read or didn't understand the article. Why would you deflect this?


Nor you too.
One of us says there is two minds , and other said there is two sides in one mind.

I could go into detail on how a human brain functions but I somehow doubt that would be of much gain.


dead in that verse of Quran means "not alive" no need to be alive before that.

You realise that I don't give a crap about the Quran, right? I am a scientist, I don't use religious books for work.
Has to do with the stuff those medieval Rabbis said. But I already realised that it was futile to look them up with their respective sources, like casting pearls before swine.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
So I answer your question by giving you the opinions of prominent Rabbis and all you understand is "blah blah"?

Not my problem.
Way you answser is blah blah, not brief.
That question may one sentence is enough , or Just your opinion "YES "or "NO" .

I do believe your religion "Judiasm" is based on God who created everything creation of creatures (human and animals ,....etc) , not evolution without "God" created creatures.

so why you are trying to fool others and being hypocrite ?




Thing is I know who I quoted and it wasn't him.
You wrote that Gravity stopped being a theory and became a fact. That is simply wrong.
I told you , you didnot follow the discuss
Because @A Greased Scotsman make me thought it was theory and proved.

Here :
Gravity is explained by Einstein's General Theory of Relativity. You're the one who said a theory is not a fact so you're either saying you don't think gravity is a fact or you don't understand what 'theory' means. Which is it?




Actually its entirely on point since they create the tissue out of cells. Or don't you understand that?
Like planet ? I know ,that's possible, but does not mean they could creat a new creature .

anyway ,you was not got my point yet,IF they succeed to creat something growing 230 billion times from it origin form , just informe me .






You: Sperm comes from men, eggs from women
Me: In China they created Sperm and fertilized female mice who then had smaller healthy mice.
You: Nono that has nothing to do with what I wrote

Its obvious you either didn't read or didn't understand the article. Why would you deflect this?


Some said it's just a claim , some others said it's they edit the origin one.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/scientists-claim-can-create-babies-7441572




I could go into detail on how a human brain functions but I somehow doubt that would be of much gain.

Brain is one NOT two,it's has left and right sides.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_brain


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You realise that I don't give a crap about the Quran, right? I am a scientist, I don't use religious books for work.
Has to do with the stuff those medieval Rabbis said. But I already realised that it was futile to look them up with their respective sources, like casting pearls before swine.
I told you you were not following the discuss about "dead" word .

Where you using your religious books ?
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
Way you answser is blah blah, not brief.
That question may one sentence is enough , or Just your opinion "YES "or "NO" .

I do believe your religion "Judiasm" is based on God who created everything creation of creatures (human and animals ,....etc) , not evolution without "God" created creatures.

so why you are trying to fool others and being hypocrite ?

So if an answer is too long its irrelevant. Good for you.


I told you , you didnot follow the discuss
Because @A Greased Scotsman make me thought it was theory and proved.

Here :

He just doesn't get it. I'll be the good person and say its because of your language skills.


Like planet ? I know ,that's possible, but does not mean they could creat a new creature .

anyway ,you was not got my point yet,IF they succeed to creat something growing 230 billion times from it origin form , just informe me .

A planet? Humans aren't as big as a planet. Therefore humans don't count as a valid creation.

Also you realise your 230 billion number is still wrong, right? You had been corrected when it came up.


Oh and yeah it happened. All in the article. Though you will dismiss it since your fun number won't show up.


Some said it's just a claim , some others said it's they edit the origin one.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/scientists-claim-can-create-babies-7441572

>mirror.co.uk

Tabloids are not a valid source on anything.


Brain is one NOT two,it's has left and right sides.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_brain

Like a record that keeps on skipping back.

Read up on alien hand syndrome, its fun.


I told you you were not following the discuss about "dead" word .

Where you using your religious books ?

Just because something didn't exist does it mean it was dead. Whether your Quran says this or that is entirely irrelevant.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
So if an answer is too long its irrelevant. Good for you.
By you being hypocrite in this thread ( origin of life) is not good for me.




He just doesn't get it. I'll be the good person and say its because of your language skills.
Let him speak for him self




A planet? Humans aren't as big as a planet. Therefore humans don't count as a valid creation.

Also you realise your 230 billion number is still wrong, right? You had been corrected when it came up.


Oh and yeah it happened. All in the article. Though you will dismiss it since your fun number won't show up.
I hate when you take the blah blah track
You said you scientist ? are you scientist in "blah blah" ?




>mirror.co.uk

Tabloids are not a valid source on anything.
That's not consider creation,I consider it editing .

Scientists have used embryonic stem cells to grow the most effective ‘test-tube' sperm cells ever, demonstrating how they can be used to fertilise mouse eggs, and produce healthy, fertile offspring.


http://www.sciencealert.com/scienti...l-sperm-yet-and-they-re-breeding-mice-with-it




Like a record that keeps on skipping back.

Read up on alien hand syndrome, its fun.
Blah blah ?



Just because something didn't exist does it mean it was dead. Whether your Quran says this or that is entirely irrelevant

Because status of dead is not alive.
exist or not that's not the problem, since we promised to be alive before we exist(born) .

For exemple :
Now the Messiah(pbuh) is dead (not exist) he will be alive , then he will be dead (not exist).

God describe the non alive status as death , not depend if he born or not yet . because it's same to Him or to us .
 

McBell

Resident Sourpuss
By you being hypocrite in this thread ( origin of life) is not good for me.
Let him speak for him self
I hate when you take the blah blah track
You said you scientist ? are you scientist in "blah blah" ?
That's not consider creation,I consider it editing .
Scientists have used embryonic stem cells to grow the most effective ‘test-tube' sperm cells ever, demonstrating how they can be used to fertilise mouse eggs, and produce healthy, fertile offspring.
http://www.sciencealert.com/scienti...l-sperm-yet-and-they-re-breeding-mice-with-it
Blah blah ?
Because status of dead is not alive.
exist or not that's not the problem, since we promised to be alive before we exist(born) .
For exemple :
Now the Messiah(pbuh) is dead (not exist) he will be alive , then he will be dead (not exist).
Rather difficult to take seriously someone who has no interest in truth and facts.
 

MARCELLO

Transitioning from male to female
Just another topic in which whole RF population try to (sure no hope ) explain Godobeyer that we are not made of magic
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
By you being hypocrite in this thread ( origin of life) is not good for me.





Let him speak for him self





I hate when you take the blah blah track
You said you scientist ? are you scientist in "blah blah" ?





That's not consider creation,I consider it editing .

Scientists have used embryonic stem cells to grow the most effective ‘test-tube' sperm cells ever, demonstrating how they can be used to fertilise mouse eggs, and produce healthy, fertile offspring.


http://www.sciencealert.com/scienti...l-sperm-yet-and-they-re-breeding-mice-with-it





Blah blah ?





Because status of dead is not alive.
exist or not that's not the problem, since we promised to be alive before we exist(born) .

For exemple :
Now the Messiah(pbuh) is dead (not exist) he will be alive , then he will be dead (not exist).

God describe the non alive status as death , not depend if he born or not yet . because it's same to Him or to us .

Ah yeah suit yourself.
 
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