Scott C.
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Why would that make someone special?
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Do You Think God Is Protecting You From Harm?
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Why would that make someone special?
Actually, you post what you believe the Bible really teaches. Matthew 23:12 James 4:10 1 Peter 5:6
How is it that the Jehovah's Witnesses have already been exalted?
Why not have yourself a reasonable look at it? The governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses take pride in their ability to make known to people what the Bible really teaches but their history is not 100%. That is a fact. If you are teaching present day understanding as "the truth" and it should change, that would make you a liar at present. If Armegeddon struck today, Jehovah would find you lying about what the Bible really teaches. Where do liars go?
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...if not for that Tree planted smack dab in the middle of the Garden, that brings full awareness (of spiteful deities; well one in particular).
If that ' middle tree ' brought full awareness then mankind would be fully aware today. Wouldn't being fully aware bring lasting health and Peace on Earth ?
Didn't that 'middle tree ' stand for: death ? _______ - Genesis 2:17
How does death make one fully aware ?
In Scripture ' death ' is an enemy and Not a friend - 1 Corinthians 15:26
Nope. Not what the word conveys.
All good questions that Lord 'god' would rather you not explore.
But one must ask why plant such a thing in the garden if it would lead to 'opposing God?' Though perhaps better to ask what the story would've been had everything not been geared around that Tree?
It is extremely frustrating to be dead to Jehovah's Witnesses and those other people.
God's ' middle tree ' stood for the Law of the land.
By obeying God showed appreciation for God, and appreciation all of the other trees and vegetation on Earth.
By God saying,"Do Not touch..." was as if God put up a No trespassing sign on His one-and-only tree.
How many trees on Earth ? ____________Out of all the trees on Earth only one tree belonged to God.
If you had a generous neighbor who had many fruit trees and said to you come over anytime you wish and have as much fruit as you want but stay away from one particular tree.
Would you consider your neighbor as being in the wrong ? After all, all of his trees are his to do with as he wishes.
Lots of adding to the word here.
Depends on the reasoning. If he said, "this particular tree, on the day you eat of it, you will surely die," then I'd probably take that into advisement (though helps that I currently understand what is meant by 'to die'). If he had a pet snake who just so happened to talk to me, a) that would blow me away, b) I'd think this must be an intelligent snake if it learned to talk and c) I'd sit up and take notice. If the snake said, "you won't surely die from eating the fruit, but instead your eyes will be open to who your neighbor actually is," I'd be like, "how do you know I won't die??" But let's say hypothetically, I did trust this snake and I surely didn't die that day. I'd probably then think, ah I get what the snake was saying about this neighbor. I'd choose to love him (the neighbor) anyway. But it would really suck if, after being deceptive with me, he got all huffy puffy mad and told me I was kicked off of his property for good for daring to disobey him. To which I'd be like, "that's cool. Hey, you might want to put a muzzle on that snake of yours."
Kelly of the Phoenix
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1. Being aware of how crappy something is isn't going to make one happy or peaceful or anything.
2. No. It was not called the Tree of Death.
3. If you believe one lives after death, then you are free from physical limitations to your experience.
4. Why were there martyrs?
So people who really believe God tells them to kill their children are just showing their appreciation? So people who kill pagans and gays and other minorities because apparently God said so are just showing their appreciation?
God never said that. Eve, who wasn't even there yet when the rule was made, didn't get the rule right. You couldn't EAT it. God said NOTHING ABOUT TOUCHING. Seriously, I laugh when you say you focus on what the bible actually teaches.
He made two with magic powers, IIRC. Have you READ this story?
This only equates if my neighbor tells me to stay away from it because it is poisonous and it really isn't -- the neighbor just wanted to keep that fruit for himself.
But, would that generous neighbor who had many fruit trees that you could eat from at any time, except for one particular tree, be ungenerous ?_____
Yes, two named trees in Eden, and which tree will mankind see the return of that one particular tree at Revelation 22:2 but the ' tree of life ' for earth's nations.
The prohibited ' middle tree ' God had already told what was good and what was bad. The ' bad ' was 'death'. - Genesis 2:17; Genesis 3:2-3
How can you say 'Eve did Not get that right' when her reply to the serpent was an educated reply found at Genesis 3:2-3
As Jesus said at Matthew 26:52; Revelation 13:10 to 'lay down the sword' ( Do Not murder ) is what is showing appreciation for life - Jeremiah 32:34-35; 2 Chronicles 28:3
We all have wrong leanings, and we are Not to harm others, but we do teach that fornication ( porneia ) is wrong no matter what are leanings are.
There is only ' life after death ' when Jesus resurrects the unconscious dead - John 11:12-14; Ecclesiastes 9:5; Psalms 115:17; Psalms 146:4; Revelation 1:18
So, starting with Day One of Jesus' 1,000-year governmental rulership over Earth mankind will see the fulfillment of Acts of the Apostles 24:15 that there ' is going to be ' a resurrection....
Why martyrs ? -> see 1 Corinthians 15:12-14; 1 Corinthians 15:15-17
More than muzzle because that edenic ' snake in the grass ' was Satan using that animal as a ventriloquist could use his dummy, and Jesus will destroy Satan.- Hebrews 2:14
Biblical death is, as it was for Adam, in that we ' return ' to the dust of the ground - Genesis 3:19
A person can Not return to a place he never was before, so like Adam we go back to non-life at death.
Yes, one would think Eve would have been ' blown away ' by a talking Serpent.
Genesis 3:6 informs us that Eve ' saw ' ( eyesight) that the tree was good for food.
Besides the talking Serpent, Eve could have observed (saw) other animals or birds eating from the forbidden tree and saw No harm come to them.
Satan, as the Serpent, could have even told Eve that he could talk because he eats from the tree.- Revelation 12:9; Revelation 12:12
Eve listened to and was deceived by Satan - 1 Timothy 2:14
Just as the ' creative days ' are Not literal 24-hr. days, so, ' that figurative day ' of Genesis 2:17 was Not a 24-hr. day but a ' thousand-year day '.
In other words, after eating, No one could live past a thousand years - Genesis 5:5; Genesis 5:27
So, Adam and Eve were Not kicked off Earth but simply returned to the Earth before reaching age 1,000.
Under Christ's millennium-long day of governing over Earth, with the removal of enemy death, then mankind can gain the original everlasting life on Earth as offered to Adam before his downfall.
- 1 Corinthians 15:26; Isaiah 25:8; Revelation 22:2
All interesting additions to the scripture. Come over here and let me pat you on the back.
Subhankar Zac
Hare Krishna,Hare Krishna,
As if m going to live forever?
We all die at some point... No one's special!
We all die at some point... No one's special!
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Yeah, thanks for nothing, God.