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Bible believing Christians Only: Sign of Return of Christ

URAVIP2ME

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Ok, now refering to the question that Jesus apostel asked, that what are the signs of your coming, Jesus gave certain signs, among them was falling stars, darkening moon and sun.
You mentioned these are symbolic. If i understand you correcrly, you mean, when jesus said the stars fall, He did not mean literally the stars fall from sky, but He meant something else, correct?
Lets just focus on this sign only.
Now, in practical sense and realisticly, how would this Falling stars should come to pass, so, we people of world can see, this sign came to pass indeed.
Also, why didn't jesus say explicitly the meaning of those signs? Why He spoke symboliclly?
Suppose, by the term stars, He meant to say Angels fall. Why jesus didnt say angels will fall, instead of saying stars fall. Moreover, what exactly it means, that angels fall, in practical sense.

Thank you for your reply. An inquiring mind wants to know.
Yes, you understand correctly. Not literally falling of the heavenly stars.
Jesus spoke symbolically or figuratively so that those who really do Not want to know would Not understand.
Yes, angels did fall. Revelation is written in very-vivid word pictures for us where symbolically the angels, besides others, are referred to as: stars.
( even the word ' heavens ' in Scripture can mean: the physical heavens, the heavens of earth's atmosphere, outer space, mid-heavens where the birds fly, the skies, besides the spiritual heavens, besides God's lofty position and representing rulerships over peoples )
To key in right now on Matthew 24:29; Mark 13:25; Luke 21:25 is in connection to Joel 2:30-31 ( compare Jeremiah 4:23; Jeremiah 4:28 )
The falling and darkening of the stars in Scripture can mean or represent the removal of favorable conditions being replaced by bad, foreboding, gloomy conditions like when dark clouds blot out all the days ( and night ) lights. -> As a comparison Isaiah 50:2-3; Isaiah 50:10
By using the ' physical heavens/stars ' then is in connection with people's mental outlook which can be foreboding and gloomy even depressing.
As in the old Arabic expression ' His heaven has fallen to the earth ' meaning that one's superiority or one's prosperity is now greatly reduced or diminished.
Thus that conveys the idea of bitter disappointment or utterly now being disillusioned.
This where Joel comes in. In that in Judah's old day such a ' day of darkness ' came in fullfillment through the prophet Joel 2:1-2; Joel 2:10; Joel 2:30-31
That ' day of darkness' reached its climax when Judah was desolated by ancient Babylon.
So, any help for Judah from a ' heavenly source ' was now dried up for them as foretold at Deuteronomy 28:65-67
They were in dread both ' day and night ' meaning No relief in sight. No hope by sunlight in the day or by starry moonlight evenings.
Joel also warned Judah's enemies that they would experience those same ' dark ' situation by being an enemy - Joel 3:12-14; Joel 3:15-16.
Please notice both Isaiah and Ezekiel used a same ' figurative' picture in foretelling God's judgement upon Egypt and on Babylon.
- Ezekiel 32:7-8; Ezekiel 32:12; Isaiah 13:1; Isaiah 13:10-11
Besides Jesus, the apostle Peter at Acts of the Apostles 2:1; Acts of the Apostles 2:16-18; Acts of the Apostles 2:19-21; Acts of the Apostles 2:40 urged to saved from this crooked generation. Unfaithful Jerusalem saw that time of great darkness when the Romans destroyed Jerusalem in the year 70.
Prior to what Peter urged at Pentecost, Jesus made a similar prophecy showing a fulfillment at the time of his presence before his coming. - Revelation 6:12-14; Revelation 6:15-17
 
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