Another lie by an apostate.

savagewind · Jul 9, 2016

Deeje said:
Because evil minus Jehovah's spirit, is stronger for the majority of people.

No! The temptation is stronger. The temptation to do evil is stronger than to do good because there is no temptation to do good.

God dam, what are they teaching you?

savagewind · Jul 9, 2016

Let's think this out, shall we?

It is believed that it will be JESUS CHRIST who will remove badness from the Earth but YOU say, "evil is stronger". I think we can agree that Jesus is stronger, so really you are saying that Jesus is evil. Mathematically.

Can Jehovah make people do things like write a Bible? HOW? If evil is stronger, then how did anyone ever find Jehovah?

Did you make it up that evil is stronger or is it something you ate at Jehovah's Table?

savagewind · Jul 9, 2016

Why can't the lady just admit that love is strongest? Hm? Maybe her fingers are in her ears.

savagewind · Jul 9, 2016

I have a story. A short one, don't worry.

I collect a lot of things and my husband does too. He is neat, but I am not. We have clashed many times about it, but we are still together. How?

BECAUSE LOVE IS STRONGER.

Maybe evil appears more because people are being taught that it is stronger than love.

savagewind · Jul 9, 2016

1 Chronicles 29: 11
11 Yours, O Jehovah, are the greatness+ and the mightiness+ and the beauty and the splendor and the majesty,*+ for everything in the heavens and on the earth is yours.+ Yours is the kingdom, O Jehovah.+ You are the One exalting yourself as head over all.

Jehovah head over all? Not so, according to the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses. Jehovah is not head over evil. Evil is stronger, they say.

So, when it is time for Armageddon, Jehovah will switch love and evil's places, I guess. Oh wait a minute! Jehovah will switch evil and might's places. Oh it is so confusing. What does babylon mean?

In the Bible, the name appears as Babel (Hebrew: בָּבֶל‎‎, Bavel, Tib. בָּבֶל, Bāvel; Syriac: ܒܒܠ‎, Bāwēl), interpreted in the Hebrew Scriptures' Book of Genesis to mean "confusion",[9] from the verb bilbél (בלבל, "to confuse"). The modern English verb, to "babble", or to speak meaningless words, is popularly thought to derive from this name, but there is no direct connection.[10]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylon

savagewind · Jul 9, 2016

If anything from Jehovah is being called

Deeje said:
the devil's propaganda

because it doesn't agree with you it is similar to what they said of Jesus Christ. Isn't it?

Acts of the Apostles 2:17

In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.

All people? No sir! Only 7 at a time.

9-10ths_Penguin · Jul 9, 2016

jeager106 said:
Is this even more veiled J.W. bashing?
J.W. harm NO ONE and try to carry a message even door to door in the face
of rude and sometimes violent responses.

Jehovah's Witnesses harm lots of people. Here's a small sample:

http://whatstheharm.net/jehovahswitnesses.html

And apart from the whole blood transfusion thing, the JW practice of shunning can cause serious psychological and emotional harm.

djhwoodwerks · Jul 9, 2016

9-10ths_Penguin said:
Jehovah's Witnesses harm lots of people. Here's a small sample:

http://whatstheharm.net/jehovahswitnesses.html

And apart from the whole blood transfusion thing, the JW practice of shunning can cause serious psychological and emotional harm.

But they do it in the name of Jehovah, so it's ok. They do it so pain will bring them back to the .org.

It reminds me of children, "if you don't play the way I say, then you can't play with us".

djhwoodwerks · Jul 9, 2016

savagewind said:
If anything from Jehovah is being called
because it doesn't agree with you it is similar to what they said of Jesus Christ. Isn't it?

Acts of the Apostles 2:17

In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.

All people? No sir! Only 7 at a time.

I guess that's where the slave comes in. Only they know that when Peter said, "ALL PEOPLE" he actually meant, "ALL 144,000 PEOPLE"

savagewind · Jul 9, 2016

djhwoodwerks said:
I guess that's where the slave comes in. Only they know that when Peter said, "ALL PEOPLE" he actually meant, "ALL 144,000 PEOPLE"

That is not right. The Jehovah's Witnesses believe ONLY the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses know the truth. If one of the 144,000 teach anything different than the seven, he or she might be disfellowshipped.

djhwoodwerks · Jul 9, 2016

savagewind said:
That is not right. The Jehovah's Witnesses believe ONLY the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses know the truth. If one of the 144,000 teach anything different than the seven, he or she might be disfellowshipped.

Paul said God will pour His Spirit out on "all" people, the JW's say only the 144,000 has the Spirit. I didn't say anything about the truth.

savagewind · Jul 9, 2016

djhwoodwerks said:
Paul said God will pour His Spirit out on "all" people,....... I didn't say anything about the truth.

I know. You were responding to my post. The Spirit IS the truth*. No?

Anyway, if you might switch your thinker ON, they say the inhabitants of the World are to learn the truth ONLY from the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses, not the 144,000.

the JW's say only the 144,000 has the Spirit

Are you sure about that? I am sure they teach that everyone can have the spirit........but only if you do good to the least one of Jesus' brothers. They are the governing body members according to the governing body.

Because evil minus Jehovah's spirit, is stronger for the majority of people. Without the holy spirit, no one is a match for the devil and his deceptions. It is only God's spirit that makes us equal to the task. His spirit is the strongest force in the universe. But 'imagining' that you have it, and actually having it, are two entirely different things.

Says @Deeje See? The JWs believe they do have God's spirit.

*Revelation 14:5

Hockeycowboy · Jul 11, 2016

JoStories said:
While I can appreciate that most of your door to door people are just trying to do what they believe is right, I have had more than my share that were rude and in my face types. One asked me, to my saying, politely I might add, that I am Buddhist, if I was happily going to hell and had her finger shaking in my face. I politely reminded her that Buddhist do not believe in a hell per se to which she scoffed at me and said I was delusional. This is but one example of some that have come knocking. So again, while most may not be like these, some are. And that is, IMO, inexcusable.

JoStories, JW's don't believe in hell either, not one to threaten with. If some woman said that to you, she was not a JW.

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