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I'm Sorry, Aisha

Rival

Rival

se Dex me saut.
Staff member
Premium Member
[This is not a debate]

It may seem silly to some, but this is one of the things that keeps me up at night. It is the story of Aisha Bint Abi Bakr, the youngest wife of Muhammad. She was, in my opinion, the victim of child sexual abuse that has been immortalised, swept under the rug, and even defended. This is not a thread for those defenders.

Islamic sources say Muhammad married Aisha when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine. Aisha, upon Muhammad's death, was not allowed to remarry and she never had any children, probably because of problems caused by having sex so young. To make matters worse, this poor girl has been slated for centuries by some Shia Muslims who have a profound dislike for her, as if she hasn't been through enough.

As a victim of such child abuse myself, it just makes me want to weep. I just want to wrap my arms around that little girl, kiss her and tell her,

Aisha, I'm sorry.

You're a brave little girl, and very strong, in a culture that offers you no way out. I'm sorry that man hurt you in ways you probably don't understand. If I could, I would canonise you as the Saint of Survivors. Saint Aisha. I would, I really would. I love you. I hope you are at peace now.

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Quagmire

Quagmire

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***Mod Post***

This is Journals. No debating is allowed in threads in this forum.

If you want to start a debate about the topic, please create a thread in one of the debate forums.

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Saint Frankenstein

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
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Beautifully put, @Rival. I hope this a sign that you are continuing the path of healing for yourself. All the best to you. *hugs*

mojtaba said:
Or you can remove this thread which has a debating esscence into the debating DIR.
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Go make your own thread and stop being rude, trying to hijack this one. She has the right to voice her viewpoint on such a personal issue for herself without malicious people trying to tear her down because of it. That's all I'll say to you about this because I don't want to contribute to this journal post being messed up.
 
Rival

Rival

se Dex me saut.
Staff member
Premium Member
Saint Frankenstein said:
Beautifully put, @Rival. I hope this a sign that you are continuing the path of healing for yourself. All the best to you. *hugs*


Go make your own thread and stop being rude, trying to hijack this one. She has the right to voice her viewpoint on such a personal issue for herself without malicious people trying to tear her down because of it. That's all I'll say to you about this because I don't want to contribute to this journal post being messed up.
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Thanks :) Yeah, it is.
 
DawudTalut

DawudTalut

Peace be upon you.
Rival said:
[This is not a debate]

It may seem silly to some, but this is one of the things that keeps me up at night. It is the story of Aisha Bint Abi Bakr, the youngest wife of Muhammad. She was, in my opinion, the victim of child sexual abuse that has been immortalised, swept under the rug, and even defended. This is not a thread for those defenders.

Islamic sources say Muhammad married Aisha when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine. Aisha, upon Muhammad's death, was not allowed to remarry and she never had any children, probably because of problems caused by having sex so young. To make matters worse, this poor girl has been slated for centuries by some Shia Muslims who have a profound dislike for her, as if she hasn't been through enough.

As a victim of such child abuse myself, it just makes me want to weep. I just want to wrap my arms around that little girl, kiss her and tell her,

Aisha, I'm sorry.

You're a brave little girl, and very strong, in a culture that offers you no way out. I'm sorry that man hurt you in ways you probably don't understand. If I could, I would canonise you as the Saint of Survivors. Saint Aisha. I would, I really would. I love you. I hope you are at peace now.

:hibiscus::purpleheart::hibiscus::purpleheart::hibiscus:​
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Can a factual error be pointed out here?
 
Rajina

Rajina

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Aisha said “I have been given nine (virtues) that were not given to any woman after Maryam bint Imran (the mother of Nabi Isa AS): Jibril AS descended with my picture in his sleep until Allah’s Messenger SAW was commanded to marry me; he had married me when I was a virgin and he never married any virgin besides me; his soul was taken while his head was on my lap and he was buried in my house. The angels had surrounded my house, I am the daughter of his Khalifah and his Siddiq; my excuse was revealed from the heaven. I was created pure. I have been promised forgiveness (of sins) and noble provision.”


Aisha and the Prophet would use code language with each other denoting their love. She asked the Prophet how he would describe his love for her. The Prophet Muhammad answered, saying: “Like a strong binding knot.” Every so often ‘Aisha would playfully ask, “How is the knot?” The Prophet would answer, “As strong as the first day (you asked).”


Aa’ishah said: ‘By Allaah, I saw the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) standing at the door of my apartment when the Abyssinians were playing with their spears in the Mosque of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). He covered me with his cloak so that I could watch their games, then he stood there for my sake until I was the one who had had enough. So you should appreciate the fact that young girls like to have fun.’
 
Godobeyer

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Rival said:
[This is not a debate]

It may seem silly to some, but this is one of the things that keeps me up at night. It is the story of Aisha Bint Abi Bakr, the youngest wife of Muhammad. She was, in my opinion, the victim of child sexual abuse that has been immortalised, swept under the rug, and even defended. This is not a thread for those defenders.

Islamic sources say Muhammad married Aisha when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine. Aisha, upon Muhammad's death, was not allowed to remarry and she never had any children, probably because of problems caused by having sex so young. To make matters worse, this poor girl has been slated for centuries by some Shia Muslims who have a profound dislike for her, as if she hasn't been through enough.

As a victim of such child abuse myself, it just makes me want to weep. I just want to wrap my arms around that little girl, kiss her and tell her,

Aisha, I'm sorry.

You're a brave little girl, and very strong, in a culture that offers you no way out. I'm sorry that man hurt you in ways you probably don't understand. If I could, I would canonise you as the Saint of Survivors. Saint Aisha. I would, I really would. I love you. I hope you are at peace now.

:hibiscus::purpleheart::hibiscus::purpleheart::hibiscus:​
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I may have good news , don't be sorry :)
She may did not marry at six or even 9 years old .
that's what I heard from scholar Dr Adnan Ibrahim few weeks ago.
 
Spiderman

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I love you too Aisha...you had far more potential, dignity, and intelligence than to have been subject to such horrible child-abuse and brainwashing.

We love you and know that you are looking down on our troubled world and that you and the victims of child abuse in Heaven help the victims here on earth with your intercession.

Please help us in the fight against evil. May the victims of sexual abuse receive great recompense for what was taken from them , and may the evil forces behind such madness and child-marriage be bound, vanquished, and cast into hell.

Rest in peace my friend, and help me to be a good vessel of God's charity + grace and please you with my conduct, faith, and good deeds :)

May child-marriage be abolished worldwide!
 
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nawab_saifudeen

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well, you dont need to be sorry, Aisha RA never regretted marrying The Prophet or claimed to anyone that she was abused of. So stop acting like a fool and actually look at the so called victim (Aisha) to see if she regretted it. On the contrary she was very happy with her status and was proud that the last thing entered the prophets mouth was her saliva through a wooden tooth brush and also that the prophet passed away in her home and was burred there. So I dont know what your talking about.

However, i do feel sorry for you because i feel that you were probably a victim of child abuse, so now you try to see every one has being child abused because thats the only thing you went through growing up. So my friend, please try to get professional help and stop being sorry for a person who was very proud of her status.

May Allah guide you
 
Riders

Riders

Well-Known Member
Rival said:
[This is not a debate]

It may seem silly to some, but this is one of the things that keeps me up at night. It is the story of Aisha Bint Abi Bakr, the youngest wife of Muhammad. She was, in my opinion, the victim of child sexual abuse that has been immortalised, swept under the rug, and even defended. This is not a thread for those defenders.

Islamic sources say Muhammad married Aisha when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine. Aisha, upon Muhammad's death, was not allowed to remarry and she never had any children, probably because of problems caused by having sex so young. To make matters worse, this poor girl has been slated for centuries by some Shia Muslims who have a profound dislike for her, as if she hasn't been through enough.

As a victim of such child abuse myself, it just makes me want to weep. I just want to wrap my arms around that little girl, kiss her and tell her,

Aisha, I'm sorry.

You're a brave little girl, and very strong, in a culture that offers you no way out. I'm sorry that man hurt you in ways you probably don't understand. If I could, I would canonise you as the Saint of Survivors. Saint Aisha. I would, I really would. I love you. I hope you are at peace now.

:hibiscus::purpleheart::hibiscus::purpleheart::hibiscus:


OMG how horrible.​
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Riders

Riders

Well-Known Member
nawab_saifudeen said:
well, you dont need to be sorry, Aisha RA never regretted marrying The Prophet or claimed to anyone that she was abused of. So stop acting like a fool and actually look at the so called victim (Aisha) to see if she regretted it. On the contrary she was very happy with her status and was proud that the last thing entered the prophets mouth was her saliva through a wooden tooth brush and also that the prophet passed away in her home and was burred there. So I dont know what your talking about.

However, i do feel sorry for you because i feel that you were probably a victim of child abuse, so now you try to see every one has being child abused because thats the only thing you went through growing up. So my friend, please try to get professional help and stop being sorry for a person who was very proud of her status.

May Allah guide you
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Marrying a 6 year old is not ok even for Muhommad.
 
Howard Is

Howard Is

Lucky Mud
Rival said:
You're a brave little girl, and very strong, in a culture that offers you no way out. I'm sorry that man hurt you in ways you probably don't understand. If I could, I would canonise you as the Saint of Survivors. Saint Aisha. I would, I really would. I love you. I hope you are at peace now.
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Sigmund Freud would have a lot to say about this if he were alive.
A widely unreported fact is that he discovered that child sex abuse was the cause of what was termed ‘hysteria’ in his time.
Look at the etymology of that word... it is sexism, victim blaming and camouflage for abusers in one word.

Freud was almost run out of town for revealing that of his clients were victims of (usually) incest abuse. The privileged classes had a dirty little secret.

His theory was that an experience which caused shame and a sense of separation from the group (same thing really) led to a walling off of certain parts of the mind, which is the basis of psychosis.

Of interest - Freud used cocaine both for himself and his clients. As it happens, cocaine causes release of endogenous vasopressin, a hormone involved in the laying down and recall of memories. In recent times, vasopressin itself (available on the web) has been successfully used to cure long term amnesia - instantly.

Study of the effects of child sex abuse are therefore the foundation of psychoanalysis. Carl Jung coined the phrase ‘autonomous psychic complex’ to describe the behaviours surrounding the process of walling off sections of the psyche.

It seems that wherever there is privilege (from the Latin - private law), there is sexual abuse.

Right now in Australia Cardinal George Pell is appealing his conviction for child sexual abuse.
Prince Andrew is being outed for his association with Jeffrey Epstein, organiser of an international paedophile ring for the wealthy and powerful.

And there are countless other examples.

Child sexual abuse is not immoral merely because it is sexual indiscipline, it is immoral and reprehensible because it does immense damage to the psyche of a human being.

Abusers so often masquerade as protectors, as in the case of Aisha.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and feelings on this.
Thank you for sharing the feeling of mercy.
 
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