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People are being manipulated into hating Muslims

gsa

Well-Known Member
Sometimes a false flag is a false flag.

And despite protests to the contrary, this was not a false flag, nor was 9/11. Just because the Orlando mass shooter has a really weird background does not suggest that there was some sort of conspiracy on the part of government (or as you suggested upthread, the Rothschilds, which really puts this in perspective).

Does nobody notice this? Am I the only one who sees the patterns?

No. I think Alex Jones sees those same patterns. The company you find yourself in is what is most revealing.

It never occurred to anyone that it's very strange that every single time a mass shooting happens, the politicians jump in and want to make a proclamation ban guns from every American, or at least restrict them greatly. It never occurred to anyone that they are using these false flags and shootings as an excuse to disarm you? And we all know what happens when a big government demands that you give up your guns. Not too many totalitarian states that allow weapons. Oh they want to get rid of your weapons, but they themselves have guards that are armed to the teeth.

The idea that the United States government would find guns to be a threat to its rule given its weapons stockpile is frankly bizarre. If the US turned totalitarian, the fact that we have guns would not be much of a threat to them.

So on top of trying to get people divided with whites and blacks, Muslims and non-Muslims, ect, they are also trying to disarm you so that you will be confused, distracted and too weak to fight back

When Dylan Roof executed a bunch of black people in a church, the government did not play a role in ramping up racist hate. When Omar Mateen used Islam as a justification for murdering 49 people and maiming an additional 53 or so, the government did not play a role in ramping up homophobia. Sometimes white people do ****ty things, sometimes Muslims do ****ty things. Opportunists then turn around and blame the group or the ideology or what have you, but the point is that the government does not need to conspire against all that is good in the world for this to be the case.
 

Moishe3rd

Yehudi
It seems that most folk believe that the problem is that Muslims are killing non Muslims.
No.
The problem is that the Muslim Arab world has been developing their Muslim Reformation for the last 100 years and are engaged in mass murder (mostly other Muslims and Arabs) and destruction and, they will destroy This World if this massive sectarian civil war reaches the same conclusion as did the Christian Reformation of 500 years ago or the Jewish Reformation of 2000 years ago.
 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
Aquitane:
You used the word kaffir:
It means.
Kaffir (racial term) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaffir_(racial_term)

    The word kaffir is a term used in South Africa to refer to a black person. Now widely considered an offensive ethnic slur, it was formerly considered by whites to be ...
Really?
I did not know that. I am referring to a variation of "Kuffar", an Islamic term meaning "disbeliever".

So you understand that the Islamic banking is not profitable to the capitalists.
No, I am asking you how Sharia banks make any profit and can afford to pay their staff if they aren't profitable?

The number people who practice Islamic laws is increasing day by day.

Evidence please.

You also understand that Islamic banking is growing up in the west.

Yes: it's growing because it is now a profitable market in the west.

The growth of Islamic banking and the increase in number of people practicing Islam creates big loss for the corporates.

Evidence please.

They create false flag attacks

Evidence please.

they created terrorist groups in the name of Islam

Evidence please.

and they spread hatred against Islam using the mainstream media that they own.

Evidence please.
 

Rajina

Member
No, I am asking you how Sharia banks make any profit and can afford to pay their staff if they aren't profitable?
Islamic banks don't lend money for interest nor charge any interest on loans. From my limited knowledge Islamic banks works by using the money deposited with them for some other business and by sharing the profit of the business with the depositor. I dont know whether the depositor will have any loss if the business goes into loss.There are different opinions about whether Islamic banking is purely Islamic or not. Anyways its a threat for the money making business of the main stream bankers by which they use money for making money.

Evidence please.


The growth of Islamic banking in the west itself is an evidence for the increase in number of people practicing Islam.

According to the 2003 edition of the Guinness Book of World Records, Islam is the world's fastest-growing religion by number of conversions each year.
According to Guinness World Records, there were12.5 million more converts to Islam than to Christianity from 1990-2000. In the UK and France, up to 100,000 people converted in the last decade in each country. Germany has up to 4000 a year.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_converts_to_Islam
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...UK-White-women-keen-embrace-Muslim-faith.html

https://sites.google.com/site/burqa...5-million-americans-converted-to-islam-in-usa

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...verting-to-islam/story-fni0cx12-1226804853598

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/islam-fastest-growing-religion-overtake-6986333


For the remaining part I cannot give you evidence from any news snippets, because the media doesn't want you to know the truth. To realize the truth, you just have to think. I can only tell you, I cannot make you think..

Just think about the 9/11 attack and the attacks against Afghanistan and Iraq that followed it.Think about why millions of innocent people over there were killed and why no one questioned it. People are now brainswashed to such an extend that for them only those life's matter which matters for the media.
Think about why those politicians who lead those mass murders are not considered as terrorists.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_in_the_war_in_Afghanistan_(2001–present)

Think about why manufacturing and selling mass explosive weapons by our countries are not considered as terrorism.

Think about why are these so called Islamic terrorists going to a crowd and blowing up some random people(whom they do not know whether they are Muslims or not). Why do those suicide bombers kill themselves. Even if we twist the verses of Quran and misinterpret it, we cannot make any justification that their actions are islamic.

Think about who funds these so called terrorists. Think about and search about who leads them. Think about why they are not attacking politicians.
 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
Islamic banks don't lend money for interest nor charge any interest on loans. From my limited knowledge Islamic banks works by using the money deposited with them for some other business and by sharing the profit of the business with the depositor. I dont know whether the depositor will have any loss if the business goes into loss.There are different opinions about whether Islamic banking is purely Islamic or not. Anyways its a threat for the money making business of the main stream bankers by which they use money for making money.




The growth of Islamic banking in the west itself is an evidence for the increase in number of people practicing Islam.

According to the 2003 edition of the Guinness Book of World Records, Islam is the world's fastest-growing religion by number of conversions each year.
According to Guinness World Records, there were12.5 million more converts to Islam than to Christianity from 1990-2000. In the UK and France, up to 100,000 people converted in the last decade in each country. Germany has up to 4000 a year.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_converts_to_Islam
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...UK-White-women-keen-embrace-Muslim-faith.html

https://sites.google.com/site/burqa...5-million-americans-converted-to-islam-in-usa

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...verting-to-islam/story-fni0cx12-1226804853598

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/islam-fastest-growing-religion-overtake-6986333


For the remaining part I cannot give you evidence from any news snippets, because the media doesn't want you to know the truth. To realize the truth, you just have to think. I can only tell you, I cannot make you think..

Just think about the 9/11 attack and the attacks against Afghanistan and Iraq that followed it.Think about why millions of innocent people over there were killed and why no one questioned it. People are now brainswashed to such an extend that for them only those life's matter which matters for the media.
Think about why those politicians who lead those mass murders are not considered as terrorists.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_in_the_war_in_Afghanistan_(2001–present)

Think about why manufacturing and selling mass explosive weapons by our countries are not considered as terrorism.

Think about why are these so called Islamic terrorists going to a crowd and blowing up some random people(whom they do not know whether they are Muslims or not). Why do those suicide bombers kill themselves. Even if we twist the verses of Quran and misinterpret it, we cannot make any justification that their actions are islamic.

Think about who funds these so called terrorists. Think about and search about who leads them. Think about why they are not attacking politicians.

This all sounds incredibly paranoid, as if there's a worldwide effort to specifically target muslims.
 

blue taylor

Active Member
I think it's been made quite clear that the powers that be have been trying to divide us for years. They've done the same thing with races like white and blacks, whenever cops are involved, they have to bring up the race, (as if that was important to begin with) Or they end up talking about the motive's of the lunatics. Even if you found out the motive, they still broke the law. It doesn't make it less or more heinous of a crime

People act as if if they weren't Muslim, they wouldn't have committed crimes. Seeing how there is good and bad Muslims, it never occurred to some people that maybe they were just lunatics? And that you're going to see lunatics, no matter what faith they belong to? IF what they said was true, how come my Muslim friends have never force converted me? And I know people are going to bring up that law in Muslim culture that gives Muslims permission to lie about their faith, but it was not because they can't infiltrate, It was used for protection against other countries who asked what their faith was, and that they have permission to lie about it. If a Buddhist majority country was oppressing non Buddhists, a Muslim could like about their faith to avoid being persecuted. Most of these Muslim bashers never even met a Muslim in their life, let alone talked to one, like I have. I have experience, because I wanted to know the truth. I know there are good Muslims as well as bad.

Then people read 2 pages of the Quran and read the news, which is bias anyway and come to the conclusion that every single Muslim believes in the exact sam thing (even though there's multiple branches of Islam) and that they all want to force convert everyone (even though the Quran has also spoken out against force conversion) Some of these attacks come from Christians mentioning contradictions in the Quran. (Yeah, like there's no contradictions in the Bible or other holy scriptures, right?)

They have no idea they are being manipulated into hating them.

The powers that be want boogeymen, to scare people, and people think if they see the faith of the lunatic, they begin to think everyone who shares that faith is equally bad and is supporting such actions, even though there have been Muslims condemning it and even fighting against it overseas. You do know ISIS and Boko Harraam has killed Muslims too, right? And you do know Muslim majority countries have been fighting against them, right?

Am I seriously the only one noticing this divide and conquer move? This isn't a new trick, this has been done before and millions are falling for it. They are being manipulated into hating each other, so they will be too weak and distracted to know who the real enemy is. You think there's a War on Islam? No. There never was? It doesn't make sense. How can you declare war on an idea, and how can you win it? Makes about as much sense as the war on terror? That can't be won because it's supposed to be not winnable so the wars go on and on, because you're not fighting a country or entity.

You think Muslims are the biggest enemy? Not even close. Some Muslims are already on your side. They want the same things you want, which is peace with their loved ones. Instead focus on the people who manipulated you in the first place.
You know a lot about Muslims. What are Bacha bāzī?
 

Theweirdtophat

Well-Known Member
It seems that most folk believe that the problem is that Muslims are killing non Muslims.
No.
The problem is that the Muslim Arab world has been developing their Muslim Reformation for the last 100 years and are engaged in mass murder (mostly other Muslims and Arabs) and destruction and, they will destroy This World if this massive sectarian civil war reaches the same conclusion as did the Christian Reformation of 500 years ago or the Jewish Reformation of 2000 years ago.

Not even the main problem. Massive manipulation is taking place and Muslims and non muslims are being divided. The ones behind it are the real problem.
 

Theweirdtophat

Well-Known Member
You know a lot about Muslims. What are Bacha bāzī?

I know enough to know there's good as well as bad. What does pedophilia have to do with anything? You seriously think Most engage in that kind of stuff? You're looking for excuses to hate them and you're wasting your energy on them when you should be focusing on the real enemy.
 

blue taylor

Active Member
I know enough to know there's good as well as bad. What does pedophilia have to do with anything? You seriously think Most engage in that kind of stuff? You're looking for excuses to hate them and you're wasting your energy on them when you should be focusing on the real enemy.
I have no real enemies.
 

StopS

Member
I think it's been made quite clear that the powers that be have been trying to divide us for years. They've done the same thing with races like white and blacks, whenever cops are involved, they have to bring up the race, (as if that was important to begin with) Or they end up talking about the motive's of the lunatics.

Complete, utter nonsense.
 

Sonofason

Well-Known Member
How is Islamic banking profitable for the capitalists?

Islamic banking coming up is a threat for the big corporate bankers. That's what I was also saying.

What sort of evidence are you asking for? Survey data's?
I think Aquitaine is asking for data you are incapable of providing. There is no data that is accessible to show the secret habits of people.
 

Marsh

Active Member
I get it (what I made bold) in your post.
However when have Evangelical Christians ever committed mass murder of NON
Evangelical Christians?
What is your point by mentioning either Christian groups in light of the radical muslim
inspired murders in Florida?
After having read your post the first thing I must say is that I completely agree with you. You cannot compare the Christian message to the Islamic message. They are completely different.

Frequently I have heard people, including other atheists, liberals of all stripes, and Muslims, claiming that ISIS and other radical groups are not true Muslims. I disagree. My point was to underscore my belief that when we hear moderate Muslims asserting that the radicals are not Muslims, all we have is another example of deeply conservative religious folk not recognizing the other as true believers. I've heard secular Muslims say openly that the radicals are Muslim. In mentioning Christians I was only pointing out that deeply conservative religious folk make a practice of only accepting their own as true believers. I didn't want to centre out Muslims as the only ones to do this.

There is a long history of Sunnis killing and persecuting Shias, and vice versa, because they did not see one another as true believers, and there is an equally long history of both persecuting other minority Muslim groups for the same reason. ISIS and their ilk are deeply religious, conservative Muslims, and the dangerous part of all this is that it is a literal reading of the Koran that makes this possible.
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
Yeah. I'm watching Fareed right now on his show titled:
Why They Hate Us?
It appears it's largely due to Imams who heavily influence followers
of Islam.
Then there is the 72 virgins awaiting in Muslim heaven should a Muslim die
in the cause of Allah.
I guess the Muslims believe that crap.
 

Marsh

Active Member
(seeking world domination of Islam) can be interpreted in various ways.
Maajid Nawaz defines Islamists as a subset of Muslims who are working through violence (the jihadists) to push their agenda, and a second group who apply politics to peacefully and legally gain control. Their stated goal is the domination of the West. These people are not shy in claiming that they really are trying to take over.
 

Marsh

Active Member
Yeah. I'm watching Fareed right now on his show titled:
Why They Hate Us?
It appears it's largely due to Imams who heavily influence followers
of Islam.
That wouldn't surprise me.

jeager106 said:
Then there is the 72 virgins awaiting in Muslim heaven should a Muslim die
in the cause of Allah.
I guess the Muslims believe that crap.
They believe it as strongly as Christians believe Christ was crucified and returned in three days. That's not to say most want to test the hypothesis out.
 
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