Aquitaine
Well-Known Member
The irony of this thread is that it has shown that the overwhelming majority of people who fuss over how women dress themselves are not the dirty, lustful and sinful kuffar men: instead it is the muslim men themselves.
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Why some people care about degree of nudity of Muslims women?
- Thread starter Godobeyer
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The irony of this thread is that it has shown that the overwhelming majority of people who fuss over how women dress themselves are not the dirty, lustful and sinful kuffar men: instead it is the muslim men themselves.
Jabar
“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
I agree 100%, but it is less likely when wearing Hijab and is a more safer option overall.
Yes, if they want.
Jabar
“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
It never says expose breasts to fathers or any relatives, i advise you to read it again.
Aquitaine
Well-Known Member
Really? Wearing a Hijab reduces the probability of sexual assault? Where is your evidence?I agree 100%, but it is less likely when wearing Hijab and is a more safer option overall.
Yes, if they want.
EDIT: Also, so you're okay with women walking around outside in bikinis in muslims countries?
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
If not to protect themselves from the eyes of the non-muslims and not also from the muslims, then from whom?
No one is perfect.
regardless, everyone should respect the laws of the country.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
It isn't molested but abused, being treated as sex object than a human being.
Showing her body intentionally as sex object is harming her at fist place.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
The quran doesn't mention sexual abuse, so no it isn't about avoiding rape or such.
Jabar
“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
On average, who would a Man rather rape a women whose butt is wide open or a women whose body is covered not to mention niqaab.
I am not okay with it, it is just that it is their own free choice in my opinion. Many people will not appreciate it and will cause conflict.
I am not saying Hijab is main reason of less rape but it does in a way help more. But mostly it is modesty.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Except if the women chose to go shopping naked then i don't know if you still agree that they're free to do so.
Yeah...because atheists are running rampant...
At least up until they're arrested for their lack of religion.
Jabar
“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
No, it isn't
It's based on love and understanding, actually i can see the girls themselves wanted to wear hijab and
even the converts are glad to wear the hijab.
Wow. So you support the notion that atheist men stare at women by doubling down and conflating atheism and fundamentalist communism?
Nice.
It's about as accurate as me saying 'Theists fly planes into buildings, therefore I would prefer my wife to avoid all theists'.
Bravo for lifting the arguments in this thread to a new level of hyperbolic ignorance.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
I don't generalize, some atheists are moral and some muslims are immoral and vice versa.
Aquitaine
Well-Known Member
It appears to be a practice that was designed to protect muslim men from having to engage in self-control.
Similar to covering up the cakes because the children refuse to learn self-control, not the best way to go about it in my opinion.
Correct. I just wish certain people would stop pretending they are noble and pure, whilst claiming the non-believers are sinful, lustful immoral dogs.
Including Burkha-clad women in the west? Or does "When in Rome" only apply when it's non-muslims in muslim countries?
Why doesn't the koran mention sexual assault? This is the final message of almighty god after all. . .
To my knowledge, the majority of rapes are committed by someone who closely knows the victim. The whole "woman walking alone on the street" scenario actually makes up the minority of cases.
Still, I honestly do not know as I am not a rapist and do not know their thought-patterns. Though I would guess they'd look for an easy, submissive target: so that could actually be the woman "submitting to god" in the Niqab.
May I ask why you're not okay with it?
Jabar
“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
Never once.
You are making false suppositions and false equivalence.
Splendid for making distorted and inaccurate surmise to endeavor contretemps, although not very truly.
Aquitaine
Well-Known Member
In my opinion, so long as they're wearing underpants (for hygiene purposes), I do not care if men and women walk around without all other clothes in public all day. Though I'd hope the ones doing so would be conscious enough to maintain good personal hygiene.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
In my opinion, so long as they're wearing underpants (for hygiene purposes), I do not care if men and women walk around without all other clothes in public all day. Though I'd hope the ones doing so would be conscious enough to maintain good personal hygiene.
You don't care even if she was your daughter, sister, mum ..etc
Aquitaine
Well-Known Member
No, just like no one cares when 3 year olds are wearing only nappies at the beach etc.
I mean, yeah, I'd find it bizarre and gross, but it shouldn't be prohobited. Though it woukd feel less awkward if such dress standards were the norm like it is in some hotter countries.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
It says, directly from what you posted:It never says expose breasts to fathers or any relatives, i advise you to read it again.
And tell the believing women to...not expose their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands' fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers, their brothers' sons, their sisters' sons...or those male attendants having no physical desire, or children who are not yet aware of the private aspects of women.
To which I asked what's up with this showing them to all these different men?