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STRAIGHT WOMEN: Would you date and/or have sex with a female to male transsexual?

Would you?


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    14

Riders

Well-Known Member
No I wasn't aware he was a bigot I'm apologize. I did know someone personally who was a guy who transitioned to a woman went throught the full surgery she was having a hard time with the harmones and all that. Ive seen horror stories about it and I guess it just scares me. However if it makes you happy be blessed.

To each his own whatever makes someone happy is what counts. I'm sorry if you interpreted me as a hater I guess it scared me because of some of the stuff Ive seen on tv. My sponser is Sex Addicts Anonymous is a Gay Catholic man.
 

Aštra’el

Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth
I only find a small fraction of the transgender population to possess the beauty required for me to even consider hooking up with them. But there are some. I am not into large biological females who grow beards. If, on the other hand, someone looks like this...
alucard__castlevania__symphony_of_the_night___by_adrian_farenheights-d9pzetf.jpg

...then hell yeah they might have a chance at me lol... though in all honesty, out of the small fraction of transgenders I find to be attractive, it'd be way more likely to be that rare M2F beauty than a F2M.

My physical attraction to someone is less about gender and more about about genetics, and their health, their level of physical fitness, hygiene, etc... and the resulting physical characteristics... like beautiful eyes, white teeth, clean face, healthy skin, healthy head of hair, minimal to no body hair, fit abdominal area, etc.




 
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Riders

Well-Known Member
Yea it seems like when you watch tv the beautiful Marylyn Monroe types are there. I did know transgender who use to be male became female at my church but she had alot of emotional problems so.

Last night I was watching My 600 Pound life and there was a guy who had gone from 600 pounds down to 400 but he was still really big and he said he was a hidden woman too.

He came out with being transgender and learned to wear dresses and make himself up and in the end became a female impersonator and performed.

It seems like every transgender on tv goes into show bizness aren't there any regular people who don't?

I have another question.My female friend did this too, last night on the show he did this, he went shopping and bought nothing but dresses to wear everyday and said being a woman means wearing dresses why?

I don't know any woman who wears dresses everyday except the women at my old Pentecostal church wear it was against the church not to. I'm actually somewhat offended by that because I escaped a church that tried to tell em the same thing.

Why do many of them wear dresses everyday and even verbally equate being a woman with wearing dresses and makeup and being dressed up all the time, I don't know of woman who dresses like that everyday?

My Mom never wore dresses she hated them and she was the biggest flirt and men loved her she had a great figure she wore slacks all the time. You know lots of slacks and shorts are feminine too dresses aren't needed neither is a ton of makeup.

I mean most women I know including me who oves out femininity aren't dressed up like a show girl everyday.

Although I do like being feminine and I like dresses from time to time too ,being a woman is much much deeper then the outward femininity of dresses.

I felt my womanhood femininity this past 5 years after I had a hysterectomy and had never had kids and mourned for not having children.

My femininity means to me being a natural nurturer to my guy friends and sometimes being motherly even to young men because I missed out on having kids.I love being the nurturer.

It means my sex drive shot up after that because the hysterectomy made me have the change of life.

It means I'm a natural care taker I take care of my guy friends all the time,I also want to be a volunteer although there are many male volunteers there are more female because females are more naturally prone to compassion and being a volunteer. Im also more emotional then men.

I like being rescued by my guyfriends too.

There is much more to being a woman then wearing dresses everyday, it doesn't make sense to me that so many of then openly verbally talking about wanting to be a woman means I want to wear dresses everyday.
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
Good I'm glad. Whatever floats your boat. I don't believe theres anything wrong with getting the change at all.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
I only find a small fraction of the transgender population to possess the beauty required for me to even consider hooking up with them. But there are some. I am not into large biological females who grow beards. If, on the other hand, someone looks like this...
alucard__castlevania__symphony_of_the_night___by_adrian_farenheights-d9pzetf.jpg

...then hell yeah they might have a chance at me lol... though in all honesty, out of the small fraction of transgenders I find to be attractive, it'd be way more likely to be that rare M2F beauty than a F2M.

My physical attraction to someone is less about gender and more about about genetics, and their health, their level of physical fitness, hygiene, etc... and the resulting physical characteristics... like beautiful eyes, white teeth, clean face, healthy skin, healthy head of hair, minimal to no body hair, fit abdominal area, etc.



That's nice, body fascist. Have fun being alone. I feel sorry for people who express that level of shallowness. Very telling that your ideal of transgender "beauty" doesn't exist in real life (although Alucard isn't a trans woman, but anyway...). :rolleyes:
 
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Aštra’el

Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth
@Saint Frankenstein

A "body fascist"? LOL is that what you call having high standards? Are you seriously now hating on people who have high sexual standards?





 
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Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
@Saint Frankenstein

A "body fascist"? LOL is that what you call having high standards? Is this your method of hating on those whose sexual standards far exceed your own?
Body fascism is shaming those who don't fit into some unrealistic, unnatural physical ideal, while obsessing over fitting into - and others fitting into - to the point of basically worshiping that ideal. It's punishing yourself and punishing others for not being "perfect", according to some corporatized, consumerist image of physical "perfection". It manifests in things like gym addiction, steroid use, cosmetic surgery (like pec implants), diet obsessions, etc. It's entirely superficial and ultimately has nothing to do with health.

Hating on others and hating on yourself (which is what is really hiding behind that arrogant facade) is not having "high standards".
 

Aštra’el

Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth
@Saint Frankenstein

I am not shaming anyone. I described some physical standards I assess when deciding who I hookup with.

These standards might seem unrealistic and unnatural to you (because of your own experiences and Weltanschauung)... but for someone like me who has lived a healthy, athletic lifestyle since I was a child, and has teamed up with, fought beside, and befriended countless people who live similar lifestyles... I am definitely drawn to those who take care of their bodies, who combine good genetics with healthy decisions, who are ambitious and achieve their goals and naturally strive to excel above others in mind and body.


 
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Acim

Revelation all the time
I'm sorry, but what you described, including the mannerisms you're attracted to, seem more like caricatures or stereotypes of certain cultural views of masculinity, like Paul Bunyan types. They do exist, but most men aren't going to live up to that since people are primarily individuals and are far more complex. If that's what you're into, that's fine but it honestly is more like a fetish, especially if it's something that you feel is absolutely required in a partner. You're very much narrowing your pool of potential mates. Unfortunate, imo.

I would say completely normal in my experience, and in everything that is conveyed in popular culture. Easy to dismiss that as 'pop culture' but then I'll just resort to my experience. People are attracted to other people based on physical appearance. Not only that. Perhaps not foremost that. But enough that it strikes me as a fetish in all instances, but is very rarely conveyed as such.

To answer the OP inquiry, as a male, I would very much date transitioned persons. As a male, I'm under impression my extended thoughts on this would not be received with same interest as someone identifying solely as woman in this thread. So, I'll just leave it at that.

But do wish to note that I've been assumed to be female more than once in my life. It mostly humors me. Not always. Sometimes, I'll act all offended. Mostly cause I don't even see in that moment why I'm giving off that impression, or even what 'that impression' entails. Now, all those situations where I acted offended, humor me. Anyway, I've asked many friends/family many times if I come across female to them, ever. Almost all the time, they say no. I say almost, cause I'm thinking there's been once or twice where it was longer than a 30 second discussion and someone brought up a 'maybe possibly' type thing where they thought I might be perceived as female.

Anyway, I find attraction to be a very interesting topic, and am used to being not most attractive male / person in a room, based on physical appearances. I think many women depend on a very masculine male type to make them what they see as happy in a physical relationship. Not all women for sure, and yet enough that it seems odd that the transgender issue would somehow be a time when we'd think we could redefine relationships.

All this to say, I don't see this as strictly transgender issue. It's about what people are attracted to and while there are clearly many exceptions to unwritten rules, those unwritten rules strike me as ingrained and unlikely to change regardless how much the transgender issue impacts society.

Being a spiritual type, I do think of all this on another level that need not be discussion in this thread, but is IMO calling most to all of the shots anyway. To the degree that is not true/accurate, I think is the confusion this issue still has.
 

Meander_Z

Member
I would say completely normal in my experience, and in everything that is conveyed in popular culture. Easy to dismiss that as 'pop culture' but then I'll just resort to my experience. People are attracted to other people based on physical appearance. Not only that. Perhaps not foremost that. But enough that it strikes me as a fetish in all instances, but is very rarely conveyed as such.

In general I agree with you. There are in born instinctual mechanisms at work within our sexual natures. Men tend to select women who display youthful characteristics, and women tend to select men who demonstrate aggressive characteristic. Very sensible choices if you are living in a hunter gather society, and your primary concern is the survival of your group/species. Youth in women indicates a long period available for potential child baring. Aggression in men indicates that they will be skilled at protection and provision. I think these primal values can account for why many women select men based on money and influence (the modern day equivalent of protection and provision), while men still put their primary efforts toward securing women of youthfulness and vitality.

I think there is quite a bit more influence happening in popular culture than meets the eye however. Popular culture (not merely in it's most current incarnation but through the establishment of style and fashion through history) has encouraged attractiveness in females to a degree that exceeds the function of attractiveness in nature. This is not a promotion of simple natural beauty and general fitness. There has been an interjection of fantasy images, ideals for women's bodies that are rarely achieved in nature, but are expected by men none the less. As a result cosmetics, body altering clothing, and surgery have all been conceived as sensible solutions to the mating problem, and are often asserted as essential aspects of female life. If a man falsifies his social status in order to obtain a wife or girlfriend, he has committed an unforgivable deception. If a woman falsifies her appearance in order to obtain a husband or boyfriend, she has acted in a perfectly normal way, and is often subject to derision if she refused to participate in this practical deception. I think popular culture has taken the normal spin on human sexual attraction, and distorted it to an unhealthy degree.

I think our most current incarnation of popular culture however is beginning to overturn the concept of beauty in some very creative ways, and it seems to me that the very mechanisms that helped to bring us into our current state of distorted body politics, will be the very thing to produce the shift in awareness necessary to stop the madness and start looking at ourselves and one another in new light. I am proud of the recent decisions made by a number of actresses and models to out magazines for featuring edited images of them. I am proud of women in the lime light who make the decision to be scene publicly without make up, and dressed comfortably. Female comedians are poking fun at themselves, and society, openly commenting on their experiences of body shame and imperfection. I think that new trends in popular culture indicates a growing awareness of the fetish nature of sexual attraction, displaying more examples of androgynous beauty, and non-traditional beauty. I think there is a dawning trend not just of transgender identification, but also of cultural androgyny... a greater acceptance of women behaving in more masculine ways, and even for men to start beginning in more feminine ways. I point to popular figures like Eddie Izzard and Ruby Rose as being keystone figures in this movement, neither of whom identify as transgender but both of whom are challenging popular ideas of what should be allowed for men and women. Eventually I think we will all be able to dress up, or not, as the mood takes us, and the concept of beauty will begin to shift back toward the natural rather than the imaginary.
 

Meander_Z

Member
Naw, not him.
Why not? He looks amazing! I would think that most people would be turned off by those who are in in various, less complete, phases of transition. Unless you are mostly attracted to androgyny in general. I'm personally attracted to androgyny, so I can completely understand if you are, it just seems to be a less common preference.
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
Why not? He looks amazing! I would think that most people would be turned off by those who are in in various, less complete, phases of transition. Unless you are mostly attracted to androgyny in general. I'm personally attracted to androgyny, so I can completely understand if you are, it just seems to be a less common preference.

This guy looks way better:

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Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
So you'd have sex with him:

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Okay, so you're bisexual. Congrats on coming out.

I am heterosexual, just i have a bond with men, like friendship not love.

So, you could say i am straight. But i tend to know which men look good and which not.

:)
 

Meander_Z

Member
I am heterosexual, just i have a bond with men, like friendship not love.

So, you could say i am straight. But i tend to know which men look good and which not.

:)

I love that a straight man is willing to have sex with other men as a gesture of friendship! There should be more men like you in the world. Even if you are inexplicably particular in your standards of attractiveness.
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
I love that a straight man is willing to have sex with other men as a gesture of friendship! There should be more men like you in the world. Even if you are inexplicably particular in your standards of attractiveness.

Lol. Thnx.

Yeah, maybe in your perspective.

:)
 
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