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Why some people care about degree of nudity of Muslims women?

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
It's that "required" word that is the problem. A woman, or man, shouldn't have to be required to dress any certain way. And instead of the picture you posted, what about women who dress like this:
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Or my preferred look:
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And whats wrong with this then?

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FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
I assume you mean somebody's wife in general, since you don't know whether I have a wife or not?
In any case . . .
"your wife should be free" . . . I agree
"she can choose to wear a semi naked dress" . . . I agree
"I know you have no other choices other than to accept" . . . this makes no sense at all, maybe you could elaborate on it?

I don't agree for my wife to be free in wearing a semi naked dress, you can
agree for only your wife and it's up to you.
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
By the way, this is the "Cousin It" look.

I am not all that promoted to forcing women where those kind of Hijabs however if they wish to that is fine.

I would marry a women with a Hijab like these, or maybe no Hijab depending on the situation.

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Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
re-read your link they said "in public area " , every country had it's laws , if you want disrespect their rules , you should come to them .
What about Burkhas and Niqabs in European countries, or is Switzerland and France still too oppressive for your liking? :p
 

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
I don't agree for my wife to be free in wearing a semi naked dress, you can
agree for only your wife and it's up to you.
It shouldn't be up to you . . . it would be up to her and her husband would back her decision
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
What about Burkhas and Niqabs in European countries, or is Switzerland and France still too oppressive for your liking? :p

Burha and Niqab are not manditory, but their choice.

Hijab is somewhat manditory, but then again not completely.

:)
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
Burha and Niqab are not manditory, but their choice.

Hijab is somewhat manditory, but then again not completely.

:)

And tell the believing women to reduce [some] of their vision and guard their private parts and not expose their adornment except that which [necessarily] appears thereof and to wrap [a portion of] their headcovers over their chests and not expose their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands' fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers, their brothers' sons, their sisters' sons, their women, that which their right hands possess, or those male attendants having no physical desire, or children who are not yet aware of the private aspects of women. And let them not stamp their feet to make known what they conceal of their adornment. And turn to Allah in repentance, all of you, O believers, that you might succeed.

It is not manditory, as you can say Allah says that you might succeed.

He is basically telling women it is better to wear good hijab, but are still allowed to show themselves in a good manner. It says you can show Men that you can trust and not like rapists and such.

Allah is telling all this for benefit of the Women, it is not obligatory, like if you do not wear Hijab then you go to Hell.


Unless you become a porn star and have sex with many men and expose your bum and uterus and such.


Just cover private parts and things of such and maybe a head scarf and you are good to go, but remember it is not obligatory just recommended much more.


:)
 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
Muslim men are taught as not to look at women, looking at women is a sin, so
i think Muslim women wear hijab to protect themselves from the atheists and
not from Muslims.

If muslim men actually adhered to their restrictions on looking at women, then the women wouldn't need to cover up in the first place.
Also, it is not to protect themselves from Atheists and non-muslims.

Non-Muslim men are nobles.:rolleyes:


Get off your high horse, muslims are no less perverted than non-muslims: they just spend more effort pretending they're not.
The same is observed in conservative christians who claim to be pure.

No one force you to live in Saudi Arabia, they have their own laws, stay in or leave, it's up to you.
Funny how the attitude changes when the "host" is a muslim country and the "guest" is a non-muslim. . .
 

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
Not only for her dress and also not to be used as sex objects.
Chapter 33, Verse 59: O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters, and the believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons: that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested.

Why would they be molested? Millions of women walk around everyday without tablecloths draped over their bodies and don't get molested.
Why does the Quran single out just women to adhere to a dress code?
 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
Burha and Niqab are not manditory, but their choice.

Hijab is somewhat manditory, but then again not completely.

:)

Godobeyer's point was regarding "guests" following the rules of the host country, so what happens when muslims are the guests in a non-muslim country - should they abandon the hijab/burkha/niqab?
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
It shouldn't be up to you . . . it would be up to her and her husband would back her decision

No it's up to me as of how i choose my wife, if she accepted me as I'm then we can stay together otherwise
she can be free to choose a man of her choice.
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
Godobeyer's point was regarding "guests" following the rules of the host country, so what happens when muslims are the guests in a non-muslim country - should they abandon the hijab/burkha/niqab?

The circumstances are different however though.

It is common of women to not wear Hijab overall, we would have to agree upon that.

So, making Hijab allowed would actually help with rape and other crimes.

Yes, they should have there choice. But it is all their choice, if they want, they have it, if not, then nope.

How the dress code is right now, is fine. However, i believe covering up a little is better than showing your whole ***.

:)
 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
The circumstances are different however though.

It is common of women to not wear Hijab overall, we would have to agree upon that.

So, making Hijab allowed would actually help with rape and other crimes.

Yes, they should have there choice. But it is all their choice, if they want, they have it, if not, then nope.

How the dress code is right now, is fine. However, i believe covering up a little is better than showing your whole ***.

:)
The Hijab will not deter rapists. The responsibility lies on the potential attacker to control themself, rather than on the victim covering up.
So, back to Godobeyer's point regarding a country's laws and customs: should non-muslims in Saudi Arabia be free to wear a bikini in public?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
And tell the believing women to reduce [some] of their vision and guard their private parts and not expose their adornment except that which [necessarily] appears thereof and to wrap [a portion of] their headcovers over their chests and not expose their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands' fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers, their brothers' sons, their sisters' sons, their women, that which their right hands possess, or those male attendants having no physical desire, or children who are not yet aware of the private aspects of women. And let them not stamp their feet to make known what they conceal of their adornment. And turn to Allah in repentance, all of you, O believers, that you might succeed.
Why should a woman expose her breasts to "their fathers, their husband's fathers...their brothers, their brother's sons, their sister's sons...male attendants?" Husbands makes since, nursing aged sons makes since, but not nursing aged daughters? But what's with the showing them to all these guys about?
 
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