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How Long Does Reincarnation Take (and Another Question)?

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
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Hi, Hinduism DIR!

This question occurred to me today: let's say Bob died today. How long would it take for his soul to be reincarnated, be it in the form of a human, animal, or whatever?

Another question (and it might sound weird): Can souls be reincarnated into inanimate objects or plants?

Thank you.
 

Terese

Mangalam Pundarikakshah
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Not sure how long, others who are more educated than me will answer that. But as for your next question, i can! Souls (atma; soul-spirit), only reside in living things. A germ, a bug or a plant are living, they have an incredibly basic consciousness compared to humans, but they are living. Only the Lord can appear from inanimate objects; such as Narasimha appearing from a stone pillar when Hiranyakashipu was about to demolish it with his huge mace.
 

निताइ dasa

Nitai's servant's servant
How long would it take for his soul to be reincarnated, be it in the form of a human, animal, or whatever?

It is variable really. The soul may wander in its subtle body for some time before it enters into a suitable body, or it may enter its next body directly. All depends on its Karma. For example, if Bob did exceptionally good Karma, he might be taken to the higher spiritual worlds to enjoy there, so his next birth on this earth may take some time. The thing is, no one really understands the actual mechanism of things like karma and reincarnation.
 

निताइ dasa

Nitai's servant's servant
Is there no information on that? No scripture explains the mechanism?

Not that I have read. Shastra talks very vaguely about karma and reincarnation, saying things like "all that is born must die, and all those who die must be born". The puranas have stories/allegories about it also, which helps us understand they the soul may exist in its subtle body after death (so is not immediately reborn) or may go to the higher/lower planetary systems to enjoy its Karma. But it is by the will of the Paramatma, Sri Krsna that the soul actually enters into another body, according to their Karma.
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
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Hi, Hinduism DIR!

This question occurred to me today: let's say Bob died today. How long would it take for his soul to be reincarnated, be it in the form of a human, animal, or whatever?

Another question (and it might sound weird): Can souls be reincarnated into inanimate objects or plants?

Thank you.
Quoting from an older post of mine. This is Brihadaryanka Upanisad. Times can be very long as people usually(i.e. according to scripture) go to other worlds before returning to this world. And since the flow of time itself is different in various worlds (time passes slowly in more heavenly worlds and faster in less heavenly or hellish worlds). So the system is complicated
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The mechanism of rebirth as espoused by Yajnavalka (Brihadaryanaka Chapter 4)
Now as this self (atman) grows steadily weaker and begins to lose consciousness, these vital functions (praana-s) throng around him. Taking into himself these particles of light (these praana-s), he descends back into the heart. When the person (or deity) connected to the sight turns back (into the heart) people say "He is sinking; he can't see!" . (Similarly for smell, taste, speech, touch and perception praana-s). Then the top of his heart lights up, and with that light the self exits the body; and as his lifebreath departs, all his vital functions (praana-s) depart with it.

He then descends into a state of mere awareness and develops into one who is endowed with perception. Then, learning and rites , as well as memory, take hold of him again.

It is like this. As a caterpillar, when it comes to the tip of the blade of grass, reaches out to a new foothold and draws himself into it, so the self (atman), after it has knocked down this body and rendered it unconscious, reaches out to a new foothold and draws itself onto it.

....similar simile given with weaver and clothing...

Clearly this self is the brahman-this self made of perception, made of mind, made of sight, made of breath, made of hearing, made of earth , made of water, space, wind, light and the lightless, made of desire and desireless, anger and angerless, made of righteous and unrighteousness, made of everything. What a man turns out to be depends on how he acts and how he conducts itself. If his actions are good, he will turn out to be something good. Similarly for bad. A man resolves in accordance with his desire, act in accordance with his resolve, and turns out to be in accordance with his actions. On this point there is this verse:-

A man who's attached goes with his actions,
To the very place to which his mind and character cling.
Reaching the end of his action, of whatever he has done in this world-
From that world he returns back to this world,
Back to action.

Now a man who does not desire- who is without desires, who is freed from desires, whose desire is only the Self- his vital functions (prana) do not depart with him. Brahman he is and to Brahman he goes. Thus is the verse:-

When they are all banished.
Those desires that lurk in one's heart;
Then the mortal becomes immortal,
And attains brahman in this world.
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Read Brihadaryanaka Section 4 if you can. Its the core text of the oldest Upanisad, and Yajnavalka's words are the earliest extant source of everything in Vedanta that follows.

Note that rebirth is a quasi-natural process. It has very little to do with punishment and reward. Because one is attached to desires, the Atman remains attached to the mode of these desires, the various prana-s which that take Atman to that world which is most habitable for those desires/fears/unconscious habits to express themselves fully. (explicit comparison is made in the previous chapter on how desires create the dream world based on such impulsions. In dreams what you fear the most often takes shape driven by that fear. Similarly hopes etc.). After the desires have worked themselves out completely in those other world, one return back to this world through another set of such desire based connection to pick up where they left off.
 

atanu

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Hi, Hinduism DIR!
This question occurred to me today: let's say Bob died today. How long would it take for his soul to be reincarnated, be it in the form of a human, animal, or whatever?

In Hinduism, it is recognised that 'time spans' in different consciousness states may differ. One 'muhurta' of Shiva (God) is many many eons for us. So, it really depends as to which state of consciousness the departing soul goes and returns to. This coming and going and the nature of manifestation of the soul, which is of the nature of pure 'knowledge', depends on 'karma' (work) in its conscious embodied states.

Another question (and it might sound weird): Can souls be reincarnated into inanimate objects or plants?
Thank you.

It is not weird. First, in Hinduism, all souls (atman) are manifestations of Paramatman (Universal or God Soul).

Objectively, in cases where there is vehement (despite being told otherwise) notion of non-existence of a conscious entity (called soul) or vehement adherence to the concept that soul is merely an effect of interactions of non conscious entities/objects, the consciousness is rendered into inanimate object. It is as per the wish and belief.

Whatever the one minded belief, consciousness has the power to render the manifest in that form.
 
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George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
The answers below are my beliefs (as no one can speak for everyone).

Hi, Hinduism DIR!

This question occurred to me today: let's say Bob died today. How long would it take for his soul to be reincarnated, be it in the form of a human, animal, or whatever?
The progression of things is almost always upward. Hence, once a human, one would not incarnate as a lesser animal or a plant. Now the time between can of course vary from rather quickly to never again. To not put off your question let me throw out an average of 50-75 years. Between lives one's consciousness resides on the appropriate higher planes (for their level of development).
Another question (and it might sound weird): Can souls be reincarnated into inanimate objects or plants?
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Pretty much 'No'. Plants and animals have less evolved group souls. Only at the level of the human do souls individualize.
 
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atanu

Member
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In continuation to post 7:

In Ramayana, Ahalya, wife of Rishi Gautama was transformed into a stone, for a lapse on her part. Consciousness alone appears as Soul, God, and the World, with its in-animate objects.
 

Sumit

Sanatana Dharma
Hi, Hinduism DIR!

This question occurred to me today: let's say Bob died today. How long would it take for his soul to be reincarnated, be it in the form of a human, animal, or whatever?

Another question (and it might sound weird): Can souls be reincarnated into inanimate objects or plants?

Thank you.
Reincarnation depends on certain factors like age of death, type of death, the mental state of the person at the time when atman leaves his body. If the person is too much attached to his family or even his wealth, it hinders the process of reincarnation and the soul of the person tries to remain close to the loved one and takes the time to reincarnate. When a person dies in young age in any accident which causes sudden death, soul wanders in pret form which is a restless and aggressive state, this state may end once the lifetime of the person is over and then either moves to the state of bhoot or simply reincarnates. If a person dies in an old age than the time normally ranges between few months to 15 years.
Regarding reincarnation into an animal form I haven't seen any such real life evidence, although I do believe that human soul may reincarnate as an animal. Humans are highly conscious among all other species, so the karma only applies to humans. Despite being human if a person lives his life as that of an animal i.e giving preference to only sensual pleasure like food, sleep, sex etc, even an animal does that. This may lead a soul to reincarnate as an animal.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
This question occurred to me today: let's say Bob died today. How long would it take for his soul to be reincarnated, be it in the form of a human, animal, or whatever?

Another question (and it might sound weird): Can souls be reincarnated into inanimate objects or plants?
Will depend on his karmas and his residual desires (if one believes in reincarnation, I don't) . Plants have life, but in 'advaita' Hinduism (non-duality) there is no dividing line netween living and non-living, all being Brahman only.
Is there no information on that? No scripture explains the mechanism?
I think Garuda Purana will explain all that. I have not read it since I do not believe in that scheme.
Regarding reincarnation into an animal form I haven't seen any such real life evidence, ..
Oh, you have seen evidence for reincarnation of a human into another human! That is wonderful.
 
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Vinayaka

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DS, the understanding varies from school to school. I can only speak for my school, so take it with a grain of salt.

We (the soul 'we', not the ego we) continue to evolve between births. We may spend some time there as devonic helpers (or asuras) depending on our evolution, and what we need at that time as determined by individual karma. It can be as short as a few days (our time) or as long as a few years, if we get 'stuck' there. (as in ghosts) In one case in my own family, a soul came with me at the previous life's funeral, and entered my wife's womb about a week later. That's sort of unusual, but driven by desire of that soul too.

As for what you can be reborn into, my school says only a human rebirth, but occasionally a larger mammal of family pet because of confusion from the previous time of death. (drug induced, sudden accident, no preparation). In that case the soul is so confused it doesn't recognise a human womb and gets the wrong address.

But as I said, schools do vary.
 

Subhankar Zac

Hare Krishna,Hare Krishna,
I believe, no time.
The soul isn't even energy or matter. Only matter n energy within the cosmos are framed within the construction of Time n space.
Since the soul is neither, outside the body it doesn't age or follows time as our bodies know it.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
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Not that I have read. Shastra talks very vaguely about karma and reincarnation, saying things like "all that is born must die, and all those who die must be born". The puranas have stories/allegories about it also, which helps us understand they the soul may exist in its subtle body after death (so is not immediately reborn) or may go to the higher/lower planetary systems to enjoy its Karma. But it is by the will of the Paramatma, Sri Krsna that the soul actually enters into another body, according to their Karma.

In Swami Tapasyananda's translation of the Bhagavad Gītā there are these (I'm sure there are more like them):

7.23 The results accruing to such small-minded people are finite only. Those who worship the Devas go to the Devas, but My devotees attain to Me.

9.25. The votaries of the deities go to the deities; of the manes, to the manes
[usually referred to as ancestors' or local spirits]; and of the spirits, to the spirits, while My worshippers come to Me.

18.40 Nowhere, be it in this world or in the heavenly regions of the Devas, is there any being who is free from these three Gunas of Nature.


 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Thanks a lot for these answers, all! Pretty informative and to-the-point. :D

I apologize for the late response. I got so busy with other threads that I literally forgot about this one until now. Sometimes I have a crappy memory... :oops:
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
The answers below are my beliefs (as no one can speak for everyone).


The progression of things is almost always upward. Hence, once a human, one would not incarnate as a lesser animal or a plant. Now the time between can of course vary from rather quickly to never again. To not put off your question let me throw out an average of 50-75 years. Between lives one's consciousness resides on the appropriate higher planes (for their level of development).

Can a soul suffer while residing in higher planes, or does "it" feel nothing, or does it actually feel joy?

Pretty much 'No'. Plants and animals have less evolved group souls. Only at the level of the human do souls individualize.

Do plants' and animals' souls ever reach the level of human souls? If so, how?
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Can a soul suffer while residing in higher planes, or does "it" feel nothing, or does it actually feel joy?

Do plants' and animals' souls ever reach the level of human souls? If so, how?
Hinduism does not have a single answer for these questions, it depends on a person's beliefs. I am an 'advaitist' (believer in non-duality). My counter question will be 'Do we have separate individual souls?' I am what constitutes the whole universe - Brahman. Today in this form tomorrow what constitutes me will take many different forms. It is like a kaleidoscope, the same pieces keep forming new designs. Plants and animals - these also are forms created in the same kaleidoscope - our perception.
 

atanu

Member
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Hinduism is many layered. Both concepts of karma and re-incarnation can be viewed from mainly two perspectives.

1. There is only the non dual super soul, also called Brahman, which appears as God, Universe and all souls. From this perspective, called the 'Paramarthika' (the Absolute) there is no karma and no reincarnation, but apparent kaliedoscopic changes in the mind (which constitutes the nature of Brahman) without any change in the Brahman.

2. From the perspective of relative existence, the intentional activities of individual souls incur 'karma' that fructify over time .. reincarnation-rebirth included.​
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One may wish to study the topic in detail from writings/sayings of actual teachers:
http://www.hinduism.co.za/reincarn.htm
 
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