Go forth and multiply, it will provide

Why do you think this is the main purpose of people in the OT? For me since
there are safety in numbers, this is what the authors of the bible wanted their followers to do so that they can instigate taking over their tormentors. By the way,
didn't hitler write a book also to get rid of their tormentor... Hmmmm.. Today people
still follow this belief on multiplying, thus many kids are abused and left homeless and hungry because of irresponsible parents. Provide what provide more death and suffering in this world. This bible god must be a total failure.

ProfLogic said:

Why do you think this is the main purpose of people in the OT? For me since
there are safety in numbers, this is what the authors of the bible wanted their followers to do so that they can instigate taking over their tormentors. By the way,
didn't hitler write a book also to get rid of their tormentor... Hmmmm.. Today people
still follow this belief on multiplying, thus many kids are abused and left homeless and hungry because of irresponsible parents. Provide what provide more death and suffering in this world. This bible god must be a total failure.

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wow

or maybe G-d likes the idea of families...there are just as many families out there w/ many kids who are loved and cared for in this world.
the death and suffering in this world is a result of man...don't blame G-d, we can choose not to live in a world like this if we want.

the problem is it's easier to just not care.

ProfLogic said:

Why do you think this is the main purpose of people in the OT? For me since
there are safety in numbers, this is what the authors of the bible wanted their followers to do so that they can instigate taking over their tormentors. By the way,
didn't hitler write a book also to get rid of their tormentor... Hmmmm.. Today people
still follow this belief on multiplying, thus many kids are abused and left homeless and hungry because of irresponsible parents. Provide what provide more death and suffering in this world. This bible god must be a total failure.

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That's what you think.

The world wasn't going to go anywhere if people did not reproduce. Many people still follow that today, because if you think about it, you want lots of memebers of your own faith, right? Then why not bring up a whole family in the faith?

Me on the other hand, I believe a bit differently. I believe that families are one of the reasons that we are down here on earth, that we need to raise a family. I for one, plan on having at least four children(if physically possible), yet no more then 8.

The funny thing about your little comment is, your condeming the bad parents along with the good parents.

Most people I know have at least 6, if not more children in their famlies, and they are just doing fine. They aren't abusing their children, nor abadoning them. They are providing plenty of oppurtunities for their children to grow and explore.

Like you said, irresponsibile parents. These parents are usually ones that DO NOT follow the Bible. Most Christians families I know (LDS and non) have children, and they follow the Bible, and they don't do that to their children.

So, you are basically talking about women and men, who don't care, who don't follow the Bible, and who could care less about religion and the welfare of children.

Matthew 19:14

14. But Jesus said Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for such is the kingdom of heaven.

So, you really can't blame the Bible or Christian parents unless they are not following this commandment.

What else were the biblical people gonna do but multiply? How wide spread was birth control?

Well in case you haven't noticed, we got plenty of people around. Please stop paying attention to the multiply stuff. There are 6 million people in DFW, and at least 5.9 million of them are in between me and my destination every time I get on the freaking road.

What we need is less people, not more. Anyone having more than 2 or 3 kids in this day and age is borderline irresponsible, IMO.

B.

ProfLogic said:

Why do you think this is the main purpose of people in the OT? For me since
there are safety in numbers, this is what the authors of the bible wanted their followers to do so that they can instigate taking over their tormentors. By the way,
didn't hitler write a book also to get rid of their tormentor... Hmmmm.. Today people
still follow this belief on multiplying, thus many kids are abused and left homeless and hungry because of irresponsible parents. Provide what provide more death and suffering in this world. This bible god must be a total failure.

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We have to remember that the world view of the OT writers was quite provincial and not nearly as broad in scope as ours is today. The problem has not so much to do with God as it does with the limited perception of humanity.

jewscout said:

the death and suffering in this world is a result of man...don't blame G-d, we can choose not to live in a world like this if we want.

the problem is it's easier to just not care.

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I just wanted to note that in some countries, people have babies because they believe it will provide. A tragic occurrence.

Orleander said:

What else were the biblical people gonna do but multiply? How wide spread was birth control?

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Isn't it called abstinence?

ProfLogic said:

Isn't it called abstinence?

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abstinence. LOL for some reason that doesn't seem to work anywhere, except maybe in prisons. Oh wait, that's because....
Maybe anal sex was biblical people's birth control.

ProfLogic said:

Why do you think this is the main purpose of people in the OT?

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It isn't.

ProfLogic said:

Today people still follow this belief on multiplying, thus many kids are abused and left homeless and hungry because of irresponsible parents. Provide what provide more death and suffering in this world. This bible god must be a total failure.

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Do you really think most people in industrial nations still follow the Biblical imperative to "go forth and multiply"? Do you think most of the population problems in least developed nations is caused by people following the Biblical imperative? Just curious.

beckysoup61 said:

That's what you think.

The world wasn't going to go anywhere if people did not reproduce. Many people still follow that today, because if you think about it, you want lots of memebers of your own faith, right? Then why not bring up a whole family in the faith?

Me on the other hand, I believe a bit differently. I believe that families are one of the reasons that we are down here on earth, that we need to raise a family. I for one, plan on having at least four children(if physically possible), yet no more then 8.

The funny thing about your little comment is, your condeming the bad parents along with the good parents.

Most people I know have at least 6, if not more children in their famlies, and they are just doing fine. They aren't abusing their children, nor abadoning them. They are providing plenty of oppurtunities for their children to grow and explore.

Like you said, irresponsibile parents. These parents are usually ones that DO NOT follow the Bible. Most Christians families I know (LDS and non) have children, and they follow the Bible, and they don't do that to their children.

So, you are basically talking about women and men, who don't care, who don't follow the Bible, and who could care less about religion and the welfare of children.

Matthew 19:14

14. But Jesus said Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for such is the kingdom of heaven.

So, you really can't blame the Bible or Christian parents unless they are not following this commandment.

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Wow Becky, is that really what you think?

If I could have multiplied I would have become an engineer instead of a sign painter.

ProfLogic said:

I just wanted to note that in some countries, people have babies because they believe it will provide. A tragic occurrence.

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ummm such as??:sarcastic

jewscout said:

ummm such as??:sarcastic

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Look at a very religious country in asia, thats all I can say.

Sunstone said:

Do you really think most people in industrial nations still follow the Biblical imperative to "go forth and multiply"? Do you think most of the population problems in least developed nations is caused by people following the Biblical imperative? Just curious.

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If you are refering in the US, I believe majority of the educated people are now planning their families because they know that they will need to provide and not it.

sandy whitelinger said:

If I could have multiplied I would have become an engineer instead of a sign painter.

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Wasn't that Woody Guthrie's excuse as well?

sandy whitelinger said:

If I could have multiplied I would have become an engineer instead of a sign painter.

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ProfLogic said:

Look at a very religious country in asia, thats all I can say.

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why? why can't you just say whatever country you are referring to? :sarcastic
that way we can discuss the context both of religion as well as the society as a whole.

if you are talking about India, then why not compare it to other nations with a large religious community. What about Italy or the US? are we to assume all nations w/ a negative population growth are not religious.
And your arguement is in reference to the Abrahamic faith, which india is not predominantly a member of, they are Hindu (i believe). So this underminds your whole arguement if that's the case...
if it isn't then please be more specific and not so vague.

ProfLogic said:

Why do you think this is the main purpose of people in the OT? For me since
there are safety in numbers, this is what the authors of the bible wanted their followers to do so that they can instigate taking over their tormentors. By the way,
didn't hitler write a book also to get rid of their tormentor... Hmmmm.. Today people
still follow this belief on multiplying, thus many kids are abused and left homeless and hungry because of irresponsible parents. Provide what provide more death and suffering in this world. This bible god must be a total failure.

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To increase and multiply is God's desire for us then and now. He is unchangeable, this commandment I consider the first and most important.

As far as the miseries of poverty etc. you certainly have alot of gall blaming it on God. Try looking at the 1% of the people who control 99% of the wealth instead.