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Can science disprove the existence of God?

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
That's a book (Revelation) written by someone other than Jesus, and totally unreliable as a source for anything Jesus might have said or done.
Jesus didn't teach anything in Revelation.
I have think whoever wrote Revelation, was either delusional or tripping on something like LSD...or both.

Revelation 1:1; Revelation 1:4 is telling us that gospel writer John wrote the book of Revelation.
Jesus was long resurrected to heaven before John wrote Revelation.
Revelation was written for our day or time frame, and Not the first century - Revelation 1:10
There are corresponding cross-reference verses and passages in Revelation connecting to other Bible books ( especially Daniel )
So, although written in very-vivid word pictures it is Not some delusion.
Jesus is the faithful and true witness to Revelation according to Revelation 1:5; Revelation 19:11-13

Didn't Jesus teach the humble meek people would inherit the Earth at Matthew 5:5 ?_______
In order for the meek to inherit the Earth, then Earth would Not only have to be here, but there would be good conditions exiting on Earth.
Revelation 22:2 shows us the return of the Genesis ' tree of life ' for the healing of Earth's nations under Christ's rulership over Earth.
That is why there is the invitation for us at Revelation 22:20 for Jesus to come ! Come and usher in global Peace on Earth among people of goodwill.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
To the making of many books there is No end - Ecclesiastes 12:12
The Bible is Not just a book among the many.
The Bible has God as its Author - 2 Timothy 3:16-17
Unlike other religious books, the Bible shows its internal harmony among its penmen by the Bible's cross-reference verses and passages.
From Genesis to Revelation the Bible has the main theme of ' God's kingdom ' government as the solution to mankind's troubles - Daniel 2:44 ('Thy kingdom come' here on Earth)
That is why today we see the global fulfillment of Matthew 24:14 that the good news of God's kingdom is being proclaimed on an international scale just as Acts of the Apostles 1:8 said.
If that global work was Not from God there would be No way that work could ever be accomplished on such a vast earth-wide scale as it is being done today.

You are gettng circular. You are quoting the same book, that states to have been written by God, as evidence of having been written by God.

I am afraid, you are going to need independent evidence that that Book has been indeed written by God. Evidence that cannot be found in the Book itself, for obvious reasons.

Ciao

- viole
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
You are gettng circular. You are quoting the same book, that states to have been written by God, as evidence of having been written by God.
I am afraid, you are going to need independent evidence that that Book has been indeed written by God. Evidence that cannot be found in the Book itself, for obvious reasons.
Ciao
- viole

I am merely posting what the Bible really teaches about God, and Not as posting church traditions or church customs just being taught as Scripture but are Not Scripture.
Outside of the Book we see the order in Creation.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
I am merely posting what the Bible really teaches about God, and Not as posting church traditions or church customs just being taught as Scripture but are Not Scripture.
Outside of the Book we see the order in Creation.

Yet, you still assume that the Bible has been inspired by God. Don't you?

Ciao

- viole
 

ArtieE

Well-Known Member
' Face to face ' is ' Bible speak ' for meaning: communication. Not necessarily a literal seeing of one another's faces.
This is called being in denial. Shouldn't you rather face reality instead of just repeating the same mantra? Reality doesn't go away if you close your eyes and repeat the same thing over and over again...
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Yet, you still assume that the Bible has been inspired by God. Don't you?
Ciao
- viole

The Bible itself is stating it is inspired by God - 2 Timothy 3:16-17
I am posting what the Bible really teaches about God.
Laws govern space. The heavens are organized - Psalms 19:1-3 - and reflect the qualities of space, such organization requires or works by given laws - Job 38:31-32
Given laws are given by a lawgiver - Amos 5:8, and such powerful creation shows a wise Law Giver - Romans 1:20
Wise laws in creation shows that mankind was made to enjoy life on Earth - Job 38:4-7; Psalms 115:16
 

Sapiens

Polymathematician
The Bible itself is stating it is inspired by God - 2 Timothy 3:16-17
I am posting what the Bible really teaches about God.
Laws govern space. The heavens are organized - Psalms 19:1-3 - and reflect the qualities of space, such organization requires or works by given laws - Job 38:31-32
Given laws are given by a lawgiver - Amos 5:8, and such powerful creation shows a wise Law Giver - Romans 1:20
Wise laws in creation shows that mankind was made to enjoy life on Earth - Job 38:4-7; Psalms 115:16
That's just a snake eating its tail.
 

निताइ dasa

Nitai's servant's servant
No science cannot disprove, because it is limited by the initial assumptions it makes. If we define God as a being that cannot be empirically measured, then science by definition has no ground within that area. Saying science disproves God is like saying, "I'm going to wear earplugs and declare that sound does not exist. The assumption must not become the conclusion. It all really depends on the definition of God though.
 

allright

Active Member
If anything science has proved the existence of God.
Every cell contains a code of 3 billion individual letters that is the software of life. The letters have to
all be in the correct order. If you were to type the odds of 3 billion letters arranging themselves in an exact order
by accident you would have a numerator of one and a denominator of one followed by so many zeros the line of zeros would extend outside the known universe.

Anthony Flew famous former atheist has said "The only good explanation for the origin of life and the complexity of nature is a super intelligence"
 

ArtieE

Well-Known Member
If anything science has proved the existence of God.
Every cell contains a code of 3 billion individual letters that is the software of life. The letters have to
all be in the correct order. If you were to type the odds of 3 billion letters arranging themselves in an exact order
by accident you would have a numerator of one and a denominator of one followed by so many zeros the line of zeros would extend outside the known universe.

Anthony Flew famous former atheist has said "The only good explanation for the origin of life and the complexity of nature is a super intelligence"
It's amazing how many people fall for this. Here is the proper way of calculating it. http://evolutionfaq.com/articles/probability-life
 

allright

Active Member
It's amazing how many people fall for this. Here is the proper way of calculating it. http://evolutionfaq.com/articles/probability-life

Nonsense This articles isnt talking about the genetic code

To believe that 3 billion letters can align and reproduce themselves in the same exact order not even knowing they exist or that the other letters exist without being programmed by a super intelligence to do so is absurd

Anyone who still believes this nonsense should get together with the flat earth society and have fellowship

Information science has made a mockery of the idea that this could have happened by accident
 
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ArtieE

Well-Known Member
Information science has made a mockery of the idea that this could have happened by accident
Poor allright nobody has ever proposed that it happened by accident. It happened through chemical and biological evolution and natural selection, processes that aren't accidental and the results of these processes aren't accidental either. Have you ever read anything about evolution?
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Antony Flew famous former atheist has said "The only good explanation for the origin of life and the complexity of nature is a super intelligence"

I found another quote from Professor Flew that he concluded that: " DNA research has shown by the almost unbelievable complexity of the arrangements which are needed to produce life, that intelligence must have been involved ". '
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
That sounds as if you are saying there was a start or a beginning for the genetic code.
Did that ' start ' come from a non-life or from a non-existence ?_______
Yes.....what is the precise scientific explanation as to how the unaware became aware? The time it is supposed to have taken is not the point....but the precise moment in time it is supposed to have happened is....how did it happen?
 

ArtieE

Well-Known Member
Yes.....what is the precise scientific explanation as to how the unaware became aware? The time it is supposed to have taken is not the point....but the precise moment in time it is supposed to have happened is....how did it happen?
Define what you mean by aware...
 
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